The Fourth International Conference on J.R.R. Tolkien’s Invented Languages, Omentielva Cantea, takes place in Valencia, Spain, on 11 - 14 August 2011. For...
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Charles Gadda
GammaFlightL...
Jul 8, 2010 8:47 pm
I am attempting to translate the following phrase from Akallabêth: "There is not now upon Earth any place abiding where the memory of a time without evil is...
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"Beregond, Ander...
j_beregond
Jul 8, 2010 8:49 pm
Mellyn! It is now possible to register for next year's Omentielva, which will take place in Valencia, Spain, on 11 - 14 August 2011. You can register by paying...
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elendil_voronda
Jul 9, 2010 12:40 pm
... I am sorry, but I cannot agree regarding _voronwë_. Unless we consider that Cirion did not speak proper Quenya (a hypothesis that's nowhere stated in...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Jul 9, 2010 12:42 pm
It is often useful, in any translation, to get the meaning rather the exactly English words across. Try translating instead: "The does not exist upon Earth a...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Jul 9, 2010 12:43 pm
... Mr Kloczko, your point is understood but somebody just reminded us that the vow of Cirion used the word "voronwe" as a noun for the steadfastness of...
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CLH harding
clh8518
Jul 9, 2010 12:47 pm
I don't think a word for "there" is necessary in this sentence. And you would use 'ëa' not 'ná' for "is" in this context. And I think 'lá' should come...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Jul 9, 2010 12:48 pm
Sigh. "There does not exist ... "...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Jul 9, 2010 12:49 pm
... How do you know? Can you back up this statement with any evidence? ... Tolkien did... _Elendil Vorondo voronwe_ (UT:305), meaning 'the faith of Elendil the...
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Giraudeau David
davidkiks
Jul 10, 2010 5:18 pm
... Your last statement is directly contradicted by the Oath of Cirion, or maybe you mean that Cirion didn't use proper Quenya. As long as we have no comments...
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_Woods_
Jul 11, 2010 6:32 pm
Hi, What do you think of these constructions? I've been using Pedin Edlhen's Sindarin course and Hisweloke dictionary to build some names: (a) A prison named...
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slasher_tb
Jul 12, 2010 11:55 pm
Mmmh... I wouldn't recommend them... but hey! That's just my taste...
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crowbabe74
Jul 13, 2010 9:53 pm
While they conflict with personal taste ~ evil Elves? ~ one that I feel is a contradiction in terms so far as the Tolkien writings are concerned, if that is...
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_Woods_
Jul 13, 2010 9:54 pm
I see. Well, are they correct? And what would you suggest? ... Evil-Elf') and his twin brother _Arathodhir_ (_arad+tog+dir_, 'Day-Bringer'). ... ('Ghost...
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narbeleth
Jul 13, 2010 9:55 pm
Suil! ... Why not just _Angwedh_? It's an attested (noldorin) word at least, and it means literally "iron-bond". ... I would prefer using the word _*cyll_...
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abrigon@...
Jul 14, 2010 12:06 pm
Evil or just different than human ideas of good/evil? Or evils currupted and into orcs? Mike Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T...
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_Woods_
Jul 14, 2010 12:08 pm
Thanks, Narbeleth! ... and it means literally "iron-bond". I came across _angwedh_, but I didn't think it described well what I had in mind. It relates, at...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Jul 15, 2010 2:41 pm
... ('Ghost Wolf'). < ... more >"correct" form (where the diphthong 'au' is monophthongized to 'o'). The date of the change from *au > *o seems to be somewhat...
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_Woods_
Jul 15, 2010 2:43 pm
Crowbabe74, Thanks for the remarks. You got it right: it's Elric of Melnibone in a Middle-Earth setting. It is a story for a roleplaying game set in ME. As for...
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crowbabe74
Jul 17, 2010 2:24 am
Hey, Woods ~ You're welcome. I just had a hunch that you were writing about Elric. I've read most of the stories, and the things you were mentioning just...
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John O'Hanlon
jhanlon.irish
Jul 17, 2010 2:25 am
Hello. I'm a new member of Elfling, and I saw that I should introduce myself. I'm very interested in Tolkein's languages, especially Quenya, and I have been...
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narbeleth
Jul 17, 2010 2:25 am
... You are definitely right, however we have a lot of example of the 'au' > 'o' change (especially in the second element of a compound) in Etym already, e.g. ...
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filmnoirkitty
Jul 17, 2010 2:25 am
Hello! Here's a quick genitive question that has probably been asked many times before but I can't find the exact matter in the archives. Specifically I'm...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Jul 18, 2010 3:54 am
'darkest of wolves' would not take a genitive, but rather a partitive. The darkest wolves from the entire class of wolves is not genitive, but partitive. Just...
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Roman
rausch_roman
Jul 18, 2010 7:46 pm
... Q. _koa_ comes from _kawa_ (VT47:35). The genitive would presumably be _*kawo_ > Q. _*kavo_. Similarly _hroa_, gen. _*hravo_ and probably _fea_ (<...
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elendil_voronda
Jul 21, 2010 12:45 pm
For quite some time, I-lam Arth was down, and I acutely felt this loss... Now, thanks to Aaron Shaw, I-lam Arth has been brought back online. But you'll need...
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dreamingfifi
elvenswordsmith
Jul 21, 2010 12:46 pm
While snooping about, trying to get my hands on information about PE17 (which I still can't afford) I came across Tolkien's ideas about the origins of "Mae...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Jul 21, 2010 12:48 pm
... be _*kawo_ > Q. _*kavo_. Similarly _hroa_, gen. _*hravo_ and probably _fea_ (< _phaya_), gen. _*fayo_ (_*feo_ only by analogy). I agree that *_kavo_ seems...
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iiipitaka
Jul 21, 2010 1:03 pm
... I can find no examples with _ai_ specifically, but I believe that in Quenya any potential sequence of two e's in succession, of whatever source, was...
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dreamingfifi
elvenswordsmith
Jul 21, 2010 9:19 pm
I wrote all that, and realized that I made a stupid mistake. Of course, Mae govannen has the nominative familiar second person. The sentence is passive......
