Hello Again! After posting my previous answer, I was mulling your question around in my mind... It seems you could also use the form _olornen_, as the liquid...
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faelach69
Dec 2, 2009 11:03 pm
Hello Folks, On page 49 of PE17, Tolkien states (concerning the name Nimrodel): "... Nim is evidently the Telerin word nimbi 'white'. Cf. Nimrais ...
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Roman
rausch_roman
Dec 5, 2009 1:24 pm
... There is simply a confusion of terms here, Tolkien sometimes uses 'Telerin' to refer to the third tribe of the Eldar, i.e. to the Sindar, the Teleri of...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 5, 2009 1:39 pm
... (olor-)" with an instrumental ending. But how can we do that? The example _fazne, farne_ "foliage" from a root PHAS (VT46:9) would indicate that...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Dec 6, 2009 8:34 pm
... At least in some point Tolkien seems to consider it a gerund. In Quendi and Eldar we see the word "yomenie" not "yomenTie";, therefore pointing to stems...
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siska.robert
Dec 6, 2009 8:34 pm
Mae govannen, mellyn :) Today I finished the ascii tengwar font, which supports all characters from Daniel S. Smith's classic keymapping Little tool for using...
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michiru_benson
Dec 7, 2009 1:58 pm
Hi All, I would like to know if there is any hint or resource from Tolkien himself that Sindarin c/p/t are aspirated as in English cap/pop/top rather than as...
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coegwendeth
Dec 8, 2009 4:28 pm
Hello, From Appendix E of LOTR: "C always have the value of 'k' even before e and i". The Appendix doesn't specifically list 'p' or 't', but I've never heard...
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michiru_benson
Dec 9, 2009 4:03 pm
Hi Ruth, Thank you for your reply! Sorry but here I actually refer to the different values between voiceless aspirated stops as 'C' in English "cot" and...
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claire.richards40
claire.richa...
Dec 10, 2009 12:25 am
Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry to be so late in responding - real life keeps getting in the way! I contacted the organisers about the "Elvish" merchandise...
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meneldilv
Dec 11, 2009 1:34 pm
You can listen to this recording and try to hear for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/user/GlorendilElemire#p/u/1/MdfYy4gW9L4. Unfortunately there are only two...
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Roman
rausch_roman
Dec 11, 2009 1:34 pm
... Well, I've never heard about them being aspirated... The reason Tolkien only lists _c_ is because he wanted to prevent a pronounciation /s/ as in 'cinema',...
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marize2t
Dec 11, 2009 1:34 pm
So, my friend wants to ask her boyfriend to marry her in Elvish (because he's a LotR fan) but she doesn't speak Elvish at all. I was trying to help her...
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cgilson75
Dec 12, 2009 4:25 pm
... The source for the interpretation of _omentie_ as 'meeting of pathways' and containing the word _tie_ 'path, road' is Tolkien's commentary on the Elvish...
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George M
pans_lair
Dec 12, 2009 6:16 pm
Suilantan ilquen!  I am delighted to have discovered your group.  I and a good friend of mine are serious and mature men who have always secretely loved...
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maike
maikedulk
Dec 13, 2009 1:16 pm
Suilad Qumran! I am delighted to read your message, because I have a similar disposition towards the elven languages. I have found in the two years that I have...
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michiru_benson
Dec 14, 2009 2:48 pm
Thank you Boris and Roman, I got your idea now and actually the hints that Sindarin C/T/P are unaspirated you pointed out are already very significant to me. I...
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Andrea
andrea10tacle
Dec 21, 2009 7:31 am
Hi all! Following your advices and pointers I've researched the word respect in quenya by first looking at the etymology. respect (n.) c.1300, from L....
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Dec 21, 2009 8:10 pm
The root of the latin goes back to an Indo-European root 'spek-' (as in Greek *skeptomai*, with metathesis), which seems to be more to the meaning of...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
Christmas is here, and for the occasion I have tried to produce a Neo-Quenya version of the nativity story in Luke 2: http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/Luke2.rtf I have...
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Abrigon Gusiq
abrigon@...
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
btu how does Spek and Speak related, or is much the same? Those who speak are those who to respect? Ge Sprechen? I speak? I respect or I am respected? I know...
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elendil.voronda
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
Hello all, Though I have not yet posted any message on the list, I have enjoyed reading through discussions here for quite a long time. However, I am now stuck...
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Grant Hicks
ghicks02
Dec 28, 2009 10:47 pm
"Speak" developed from an I-E root containing an /r/ (still present in Old English "sprecan" and modern German "sprechen";). The "Oxford Introduction to...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Dec 28, 2009 10:47 pm
Oh I'd also suggest you check out the discussion on http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Forgoil Some interesting ideas I forgot to mention ...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Dec 28, 2009 10:49 pm
... I always thought that Haladin is not genuine Haladin, but is rather an Elvish term (except of course the element halad- which is genuine Haladin). And even...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Dec 29, 2009 1:14 pm
... The assumption that _mûmakil_ is 'Haradric' is almost certainly wrong. Cf. the Westron _banakil_ 'halflings'. Ergo _-il_ is a **Westron** plural ending....
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Damien
elendil.voronda
Dec 30, 2009 2:59 am
... From Tolkien's comment on the "Haladin" name in HoMe 11, p.308 and especially Christopher Tolkien's note 40 p.304, I do believe _Haladin_ is an authentic...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Dec 30, 2009 5:10 pm
... Or there were more than one plural ending in the proto-language. That wouldn't be exceptional in any way. In fact it's English which is rather exceptional...
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Andrea
andrea10tacle
Dec 31, 2009 3:13 am
Hi Phillip, Thank you for your thought. Sorry I didn't reply earlier, but internet is an rare thing where I'm at the moment. While doing the research, I've...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Dec 31, 2009 1:05 pm
Respect has nothing to do with the sprek- (AFAIK). It does use (s)pek- meaning observer, however. I am unsure if the initial /s/ is the s-mobile...
