... Well, I've never heard about them being aspirated... The reason Tolkien only lists _c_ is because he wanted to prevent a pronounciation /s/ as in 'cinema39;,...
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marize2t
Dec 11, 2009 1:34 pm
So, my friend wants to ask her boyfriend to marry her in Elvish (because he's a LotR fan) but she doesn't speak Elvish at all. I was trying to help her...
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cgilson75
Dec 12, 2009 4:25 pm
... The source for the interpretation of _omentie_ as 'meeting of pathways' and containing the word _tie_ 'path, road' is Tolkien's commentary on the Elvish...
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George M
pans_lair
Dec 12, 2009 6:16 pm
Suilantan ilquen!  I am delighted to have discovered your group.  I and a good friend of mine are serious and mature men who have always secretely loved...
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maike
maikedulk
Dec 13, 2009 1:16 pm
Suilad Qumran! I am delighted to read your message, because I have a similar disposition towards the elven languages. I have found in the two years that I have...
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michiru_benson
Dec 14, 2009 2:48 pm
Thank you Boris and Roman, I got your idea now and actually the hints that Sindarin C/T/P are unaspirated you pointed out are already very significant to me. I...
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Andrea
andrea10tacle
Dec 21, 2009 7:31 am
Hi all! Following your advices and pointers I've researched the word respect in quenya by first looking at the etymology. respect (n.) c.1300, from L....
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Dec 21, 2009 8:10 pm
The root of the latin goes back to an Indo-European root 'spek-39; (as in Greek *skeptomai*, with metathesis), which seems to be more to the meaning of...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
Christmas is here, and for the occasion I have tried to produce a Neo-Quenya version of the nativity story in Luke 2: http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/Luke2.rtf I have...
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Abrigon Gusiq
abrigon@...
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
btu how does Spek and Speak related, or is much the same? Those who speak are those who to respect? Ge Sprechen? I speak? I respect or I am respected? I know...
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elendil.voronda
Dec 27, 2009 2:02 am
Hello all, Though I have not yet posted any message on the list, I have enjoyed reading through discussions here for quite a long time. However, I am now stuck...
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Grant Hicks
ghicks02
Dec 28, 2009 10:47 pm
"Speak" developed from an I-E root containing an /r/ (still present in Old English "sprecan" and modern German "sprechen"). The "Oxford Introduction to...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Dec 28, 2009 10:47 pm
Oh I'd also suggest you check out the discussion on http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Forgoil Some interesting ideas I forgot to mention ...
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Palatinus
elfiness
Dec 28, 2009 10:49 pm
... I always thought that Haladin is not genuine Haladin, but is rather an Elvish term (except of course the element halad- which is genuine Haladin). And even...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Dec 29, 2009 1:14 pm
... The assumption that _mûmakil_ is 'Haradric39; is almost certainly wrong. Cf. the Westron _banakil_ 'halflings39;. Ergo _-il_ is a **Westron** plural ending....
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Damien
elendil.voronda
Dec 30, 2009 2:59 am
... From Tolkien's comment on the "Haladin" name in HoMe 11, p.308 and especially Christopher Tolkien's note 40 p.304, I do believe _Haladin_ is an authentic...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Dec 30, 2009 5:10 pm
... Or there were more than one plural ending in the proto-language. That wouldn't be exceptional in any way. In fact it's English which is rather exceptional...
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Andrea
andrea10tacle
Dec 31, 2009 3:13 am
Hi Phillip, Thank you for your thought. Sorry I didn't reply earlier, but internet is an rare thing where I'm at the moment. While doing the research, I've...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Dec 31, 2009 1:05 pm
Respect has nothing to do with the sprek- (AFAIK). It does use (s)pek- meaning observer, however. I am unsure if the initial /s/ is the s-mobile...
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tuilinde42
Jan 2, 2010 12:21 am
... I've been following this discussion with real interest, but one thing troubles me. I'm not sure how this word _respect_ is going to be used when it has...
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aelindis
Jan 2, 2010 12:22 am
... Accidentally, I came across a passage in Appendix E that supports the assumption that Sindarin c/p/t are unaspirated: "The original Fëanorian system also...
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Candlewick House
pedersenpeggy
Jan 2, 2010 7:22 pm
Is respect going to be used as synonym for honour? (verb and noun) - Marille Ailinel...
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"Beregond, Ander...
j_beregond
Jan 2, 2010 7:25 pm
... More strictly, it indicates that aspiration was not a consonantal variation that required representation in writing; i.e. there was no phonemic constrast...
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Grant Hicks
ghicks02
Jan 3, 2010 11:57 am
I think Tuilinde makes a good point. The meaning we give to the word "respect" in English doesn't necessarily follow from the roots (literally "to look back...
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davidkiks
Jan 5, 2010 3:22 pm
Here is an essay on the global theory of E.J. Kloczko concerning J.R.R. Tolkien's invented languages and his subcreation : ...
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aelindis
Jan 5, 2010 3:27 pm
... I believe that the absence of the Tengwar with extended stems in Sindarin writing does not merely mean that the representation of aspirated p/t/k was not...
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maike
maikedulk
Jan 8, 2010 1:29 pm
Suilad, I have been working the past year on creating a new Sindarin dictionary application. I've used Hesperides (the existing Sindarin dictionary...
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enrombel
Jan 8, 2010 1:30 pm
Dear elflingers Happy New Year to all!! I have just restored my page "Las Tengwar de Feanor", since it was formerly stored at geocities, and they don´t...
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petristikka
Jan 8, 2010 1:31 pm
Aiya! I have in the last month posted a few Q(u)enya recordings that might be of interest to this group. Just today I recorded my Quenya translation of "Wie...
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Kloczko
laurifindil
Jan 8, 2010 1:33 pm
I never developped such a "bogus theory". Mr. Giraudeau has a much bigger imagination than I do. E. Kloczko...