... From: tuilinde42 <tuilinde@...> Subject: [elfling] Re: Quenya Translation To: elfling@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 2:41 AM I assume...
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Susan Frances Edwards
tuilinde42
Jun 1, 2009 2:17 pm
Greetings all, I'm exploring some ideas about whether there are any existing verse forms which are suitable for writing poetry in Quenya or Sindarin, or...
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tammierussellca
Jun 1, 2009 2:17 pm
Thanks for all the help Everyone! :o)...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Jun 1, 2009 2:17 pm
That makes sense, but how would you transform any normal adjective into a noun? ... -- Sent from my mobile device And do this, knowing the time, that now it is...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Jun 1, 2009 4:04 pm
... Usually with any of a number of suffixes. <http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/affix~1.htm> /BP...
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morthegil@...
morthegil...
Jun 3, 2009 1:35 am
Mae govannen! Seems "accentual iambic" meters are quite popular among the elves. Both Namárië and A Elbereth are said to be iambic. Strider delivers a song...
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ramaroreo
Jun 3, 2009 1:40 am
Hi Susan, ... They certainly do exist, since Tolkien gives precise explanations in "The Road goes ever on" on Namárie (iambic meter in 5 or 6 lines with small...
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Luká Novák
lukas.novak@...
Jun 3, 2009 2:06 am
I think that Quenya is great for quantitative poetry, much better than Latin, since it has less metrically long syllables and virtually no cacophonous...
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TF
percival64
Jun 3, 2009 2:16 am
Hi, you may want to check Aglardh, where various different kinds of verse forms have been posted over the years - address below. Shine on, Thomas Ferencz Let's...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Jun 3, 2009 3:00 am
*-rë:* it seems that *X-rë* means "state of having/being X" (*almarë *"blessedness" from *alma *"good fortune, weal, wealth") I guess that *does* make airë...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Jun 3, 2009 3:08 am
There are at least three verse modes known for Sindarin: _minlamad thent/estent_, (probably alliterative), _ann-thennath_ (probably with alternating...
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jbrsz
Jun 3, 2009 3:19 am
hi everyone, I did a transcription of my name but I'm really not sure about it. Can someone check it? http://yfrog.com/59julietattooj thank you so much :-) ...
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Melissa Maxwell
cygnavamp
Jun 3, 2009 3:56 am
Hi! I've been writing a story about a high elf who adopts some unusual children and I wrote a lullaby in Quenya. Since I'm not the most original of...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Jun 3, 2009 9:43 am
... Generally speaking nouns derived from adjectives tend to be abstract nouns, so various abstract noun affixes (most of which end in _-e_) will generally do ...
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CLH harding
clh8518
Jun 7, 2009 10:28 pm
I've been thinking about how to translate this into Quenya for a while. Not for any scholarly reason. I guess I just have a bit of a thing for the House of...
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Susan Frances Edwards
tuilinde42
Jun 7, 2009 10:28 pm
Wow! Thanks for all those responses, and the helpful suggestions. I have everything referred to so far except PE14, so if someone could let me have the quote...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Jun 7, 2009 10:29 pm
Inline ... Ok, I'll keep that in mind. It's definitely nice to know that Quenya does have notion of a '-ness' suffix! ... This is likewise very good...
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werecraft
Jun 9, 2009 1:46 am
The band I'm in has agreed to let me write a song in Quenya for them, so here's my first crack at it. I'm still pretty new at this so I guess I need help...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Jun 9, 2009 12:08 pm
... What about _nehtanô_ 'one deprived, exile whose rights and goods have been confiscated' (PE17:167), Q. _*nehtano_, pl. _*nehtanor_? Otherwise there is the...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Jun 9, 2009 12:08 pm
As for translating "The Dispossessed": What about the _Úharyalar_, i.e. the "Unpossessing"? The prefix _ú-_ expresses more than mere negation, it often has...
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CLH harding
clh8518
Jun 9, 2009 12:09 pm
... that's really 'have prayed' but it doesn't change it to drastically, so if you need it for metrical reasons there's no need to change it. ... Sounds...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Jun 9, 2009 7:58 pm
... Indeed there may be several subtle distinctions made between _ú-<something>_ and _al(a)-<something>_ based on the first having and the second lacking ...
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tuilinde42
Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm
I'm assuming that you need to keep this rhythm/scansion, so I'm trying to do that for you. In prose you would put all the pronouns on to the verbs as...
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werecraft
Jun 11, 2009 12:25 pm
Thanks for your help! I'm glad you like it. Would it make more sense to say: _Úmemmë polë lemyatyë_ We cannot wait (tarry) for you. than the original line:...
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TF
percival64
Jun 14, 2009 10:52 am
Hi Tuilinde, ________________________________ From: tuilinde42 <tuilinde@...> To: elfling@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:42:19 AM ...
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werecraft
Jun 14, 2009 10:53 am
Wow, thanks again! You even gave me options! Here's what I've got now: _Etyë ahyámië terë i lómë. Elmë atyálier terë i lómë. Úvalmë lemya len. ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Jun 16, 2009 2:59 pm
It has been quite some while, but I am happy to announce another (small) article on my site Parma Tyelpelassiva ...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Jun 16, 2009 7:32 pm
Thank you, Thorsten. Fascinating article ... ... -- ... One legged egret Standing in the flowing stream Awaiting the fish [Non-text portions of this message...
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clh8518@...
clh8518
Jun 16, 2009 7:32 pm
... There is also 'Rána' (lit. "wayward") [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Jun 18, 2009 3:46 am
... I'd like to add some details I find very interesting: According to PE17:41, in Quenya _as_ becomes _al_, _as_ before _l, s_, but _a_ before _f, h, hw, hy_...
