... Bluntly put, no. Theory is that Quenya genitive denotes family relationships ('the daughter of the king'), origin ('Varda of Mount Everwhite'), partitive...
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tuilinde42
Mar 3, 2009 12:40 am
In a very simplified form the difference between the Genitive and the Possessive can be stated like this: The Genitive is used for family relationships, things...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Mar 4, 2009 8:40 pm
... requiring something? I couldn't find anything in any of the wordlists in my 'library.' I of course discovered the word for 'a need,' which is the word...
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nonsumego
Mar 5, 2009 1:07 pm
Da jia hao! ... I never made any comments since I joined the Elfling, but I do feel the need to say hello to everyone else in this group and, I suppose I can...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Mar 6, 2009 3:16 am
By the way, the Tolkien monogram reminds me of a Chinese character, Are you talking about Tengwar transcription? I think it was based off of Tibetan. ... -- ...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Mar 6, 2009 3:16 am
Thanks, Helge, that certainly clears this up for me. On a similar note, are there Quenya words for "must," "would," and or "should?" The word "must" in English...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Mar 6, 2009 3:16 am
Is there any material concerning apologizing in Quenya? Again, my reasons for learning the language are for use in my everyday life, my wife is learning with...
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nonsumego
Mar 7, 2009 4:17 pm
I apologise if I misnamed it. What I meant by "Tolkien monogram" is the symbol of Dr. Tolkien that each of his books carries....
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Palatinus
elfiness
Mar 7, 2009 4:17 pm
The only source I am aware with is this ar ámen apsene úcaremmar sÃv' emme apsenet tien i úcarer emmen. (and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those...
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TF
percival64
Mar 7, 2009 4:18 pm
You may want to take a look at _apsen-_ "forgive" from Átaremma; one can imagine forms like *ánin apsene "forgive me"; *apsena! "sorry, aplologies" (cf....
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Mans Bjorkman
mansbjorkman
Mar 7, 2009 4:18 pm
Aiya, Tailer! :) Vowels are in Quenya usually written above the preceding consonant. Diphthongs, on the other hand, are usually written with the first vowel...
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iroquen@...
iroquen
Mar 11, 2009 8:14 pm
Under WED in the Etymologies, there is a word vérë, which means "oath" or "treaty" ... I don't remember exactly. Anyway, this looks like a verbal from a verb...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Mar 13, 2009 12:35 pm
... Compulsion (obligation,...) and freedom from compulsion in Elvish is pretty consistently expressed in impersonal constructions. We find this exemplified in...
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Helge Kåre Fauskan...
hkfauskanger@...
Mar 13, 2009 12:35 pm
Expressing the idea of "should" with available Quenya vocabulary may not be so difficult, at least as long as "should" means "ought to". For instance: "You...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Mar 17, 2009 12:11 am
Thank you both for your input, I'll sort through all of this and apply it as it makes sense! ... -- And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to...
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iroquen@...
iroquen
Mar 17, 2009 12:16 am
Perhaps, then, if a verb ver- is possible, it should be used as an impersonal construction? So I need to do X would be, Verë nín carë X. Or should X appear...
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Tyler Kocheran
rfkrockteekers
Mar 17, 2009 12:16 am
I hadn't thought of doing that. Thanks, Helge, again this clears things up! ... -- And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of...
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iroquen@...
iroquen
Mar 17, 2009 12:16 am
Since we're on the theme of verbs that are, in English, modal auxiliaries, I figured that I'd field a question about which I've been wondering for some time....
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iroquen@...
iroquen
Mar 18, 2009 10:15 pm
I learned Quenya through Mr. Fauskanger's course a while back, and since Mr.. Renk's includes more new material. Mr. Renk's course lists the pronouns like so: ...
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tuilinde42
Mar 18, 2009 10:15 pm
... Iroquen, if I may, I'd like to refer back to your first mention of _ver_ I have checked my Oxford Thesaurus, and I cannot see any way in which _oath,...
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iiipitaka
Mar 18, 2009 10:24 pm
I've been informed by some of its organizers that there will be a Lord of the Rings concert event at Radio City Music Hall in New York City from October 9 to...
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Benct Philip Jonsson
melroch
Mar 19, 2009 7:16 am
Somehow this didn't go through the first time round. ... According to VT 42:34 _nauva_ can be used to express "would be", and one may tentatively assume that...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Mar 20, 2009 12:32 pm
Pronouns in Tolkien's shifting concept of the language are a long story - a good part of which you can read up in The Quenya Pronominal System - a summary ...
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lohryx5
Mar 21, 2009 4:41 pm
First post…sorry to bother everyone with this, but I'm looking to translate a short phrase into Quenya. I've gone through the various lexicons and...
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Phillip Wayne
exuyangi
Mar 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Perhaps this is not as far fetched as it may seem. In Spanish, "cumplirse con deberes" means "to do one's duty", but "deber hacer algo" can mean that one ought...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Mar 21, 2009 4:41 pm
There is scant information on formations equivalent to the English "would" in Quenya. One might use the subjunctive mood which is, alas, attested only two...
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morthegil@...
morthegil...
Mar 24, 2009 2:45 am
Is it possible that Quenya verbs do not necessarily possess special forms for subjunctive use? ~~like Chinese verbs, which always stay the same, whether used...
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J Graney
iroquen
Mar 24, 2009 3:16 am
Well, vérë means, very broadly, "something that should be done." An oath, compact, or treaty is an obligation; following it is a duty. But that's not very...
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TF
percival64
Mar 24, 2009 12:26 pm
Hi Petri, it should also be noted that Parma Eldalamberon 16 has 3 tables showing full paradigms of the verb _tul-_ (3 variants of the full paradigm, that is),...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Mar 26, 2009 2:27 am
... translates into an idea of "I have/need to leave." In Quenya, would this be translated as "Saminyë maurë auta" -> "I have a need to leave"? I guess I’d...
