Another nit to pick: It would've been more consistent to refer to the various varieties of the quasi-Old Norse language as dialects, rather than languages....
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 1, 2007 12:06 pm
I guess I must contribute to this debate again. First of all: It must be recognized that Tolkien hardly had any "plans" for the long-term future of his...
... *much* you want to see the languages expanded? And how comfortable you would feel with the sort of ratio I described above? Jason, I agree completely with...
Hi Jason, All, I'm very much the newbie to this area of study (at least in any serious way) and I'm definitely an amateur as well, but I do find the whole area...
It is justly pointed out that Tolkien never visited our time, and so could not opine on several unforeseen characteristics of it. But he did visit *one*...
I don't normally comment, but this subject seems to me to be somewhat like the age old argument over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Quenya,...
... Me neither but, I think Matthew is onto something important here. ... True. ... Another good point ... Exactly. ... Again I agree. ... Now as far as...
Howdy all. I'm making a list of people within the conlanging community willing to be press contacts. From time to time, we get an email from someone in the...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 3, 2007 8:51 pm
... Well, we already know four or five thousand Tolkien-made Quenya words (there are various ways of counting them), so if we did extend this to a vocabulary...
What is Taliska? Is it: a) A Germanic-*flavored* Ardan language? Meaning, is it an invented fantasy language "soaked" in Germanic flavor, like Danian and East...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Dec 3, 2007 8:53 pm
Jason wrote; ... I would like to see all of Middle-earth's languages, where there exists some amount of corpus created by Tolkien, fully fleshed out to be...
In _Words, Phrases, and Passages_, pp. 19 and 71, _Arvernien_ is explained as a *Quenya* name meaning "Land beside the _Verna_". Presumably this is stated to...
... fantasy language "soaked" in Germanic flavor, like Danian and East Danian/Leikvian are Germanic-flavored Elvish languages (Old English and Old Norse,...
My ideal for any paper publication of an amateur-completed language, is to: 1) Present the completed Grammar and Dictionary as unified works, uncluttered by...
Helge, ... Thank you for the correction. ... This is very interesting. Can you give some examples of the sorts of "random text" you experimented with? Are any...
... The French province of Auvergne as the inspiration for the land of Arvernien also makes sense given the location of Arvenien within Beleriand. If Tolkien...
... Hmm! Curious. I want to clarify that unlike several other Middle-earth languages (Quenya, Sindarin, Khuzdul, Danian, Leikvian) -- in the case of Westron,...
I didn't mention Bëorian in the original post. A few words of Bëorian are known, such as <bëor> "vassal" and <nóm> "wisdom". I think the solution to...
Another Mannish tongue I left out was that of the Wainriders. Though I listed "quasi-Hunnic" for the Balchoth in the original post, upon further thought, I...
... invented by Tolkien first, and then an etymology was developed for it. "Balchoth"; is one of the strangest names in the legendarium, since it ... speech,...
... Arvernien also makes sense given the location of Arvenien within Beleriand. If Tolkien ever conceived of Beleriand as a kind of mythical Europe, Arvernien...
... The idea that "Balc(hoth)" was inspired by "Bulg(ar)/Balg(ar)/Balk(ar)" is not exclusive of Tolkien using words he'd already invented. I didn't make it...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Dec 5, 2007 2:51 pm
... I just wonder: could the old version be left also accessible, in order that the comparison be possible? It would be nice to see the evolution... Lukas...
Hey, all — recently someone wanted a tattoo done saying "Not all those who wander are lost" and "Not all that glitters is gold" in Elvish. She translated the...
David Salo wrote ... Interrestingly enough, perhaps, _Arverni_ is apparentyl sometimes interpreted as "those who are beside the Alder", with a gaulish etymon ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 9, 2007 1:17 pm
... Yes, there is the Revelation translation (all 22 chapters of it), but as I said, I'll soon publish a drastically revised version to reflect the relative...
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trilogy9@...
Dec 9, 2007 1:17 pm
Matt, I read "Not who wander are lost" as i reviar rohen. Hope this helps. di ... From: Matthew Dinse <tyrhael_idhraen@...> To: elfling@yahoogroups.com...
Hi everyone, I'm new to the group, but this thread caught my interest, so I thought no one would mind if I replied. I have been researching different people's...
... I have never thought that completely systematic soundlaws exist between Quenya and Finnish. I have suggested that occasional sound-inspirations are clearly...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Dec 13, 2007 5:18 pm
... You are wrong in the central point - I don't care if the *word* is ugly - your *scheme* is quite different to Tolkien's, and that is what would show if you...
