In Middle-earth, the Tengwar script fills the role of the Roman and Greek scripts. Arnor and Gondor use Tengwar, like the Frankish Realm and Byzantine Empire...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 1, 2007 12:04 pm
Another nit to pick: It would've been more consistent to refer to the various varieties of the quasi-Old Norse language as dialects, rather than languages....
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 1, 2007 12:06 pm
I guess I must contribute to this debate again. First of all: It must be recognized that Tolkien hardly had any "plans" for the long-term future of his...
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aelindis
Dec 1, 2007 12:06 pm
... *much* you want to see the languages expanded? And how comfortable you would feel with the sort of ratio I described above? Jason, I agree completely with...
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Andrew
aconitedreams
Dec 1, 2007 12:07 pm
Hi Jason, All, I'm very much the newbie to this area of study (at least in any serious way) and I'm definitely an amateur as well, but I do find the whole area...
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iiipitaka
Dec 1, 2007 12:49 pm
It is justly pointed out that Tolkien never visited our time, and so could not opine on several unforeseen characteristics of it. But he did visit *one*...
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Matthew Fox
rrmdl1
Dec 2, 2007 2:58 am
I don't normally comment, but this subject seems to me to be somewhat like the age old argument over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Quenya,...
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jim
clanrubylion
Dec 3, 2007 2:09 pm
... Me neither but, I think Matthew is onto something important here. ... True. ... Another good point ... Exactly. ... Again I agree. ... Now as far as...
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Sai Emrys
saizai1
Dec 3, 2007 2:09 pm
Howdy all. I'm making a list of people within the conlanging community willing to be press contacts. From time to time, we get an email from someone in the...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 3, 2007 8:51 pm
... Well, we already know four or five thousand Tolkien-made Quenya words (there are various ways of counting them), so if we did extend this to a vocabulary...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 3, 2007 8:52 pm
What is Taliska? Is it: a) A Germanic-*flavored* Ardan language? Meaning, is it an invented fantasy language "soaked" in Germanic flavor, like Danian and East...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Dec 3, 2007 8:53 pm
Jason wrote; ... I would like to see all of Middle-earth's languages, where there exists some amount of corpus created by Tolkien, fully fleshed out to be...
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iiipitaka
Dec 3, 2007 9:56 pm
In _Words, Phrases, and Passages_, pp. 19 and 71, _Arvernien_ is explained as a *Quenya* name meaning "Land beside the _Verna_". Presumably this is stated to...
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iiipitaka
Dec 3, 2007 10:18 pm
... fantasy language "soaked" in Germanic flavor, like Danian and East Danian/Leikvian are Germanic-flavored Elvish languages (Old English and Old Norse,...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 3, 2007 10:19 pm
My ideal for any paper publication of an amateur-completed language, is to: 1) Present the completed Grammar and Dictionary as unified works, uncluttered by...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Dec 3, 2007 10:20 pm
Helge, ... Thank you for the correction. ... This is very interesting. Can you give some examples of the sorts of "random text" you experimented with? Are any...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 4, 2007 11:03 am
... The French province of Auvergne as the inspiration for the land of Arvernien also makes sense given the location of Arvenien within Beleriand. If Tolkien...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 4, 2007 11:04 am
... Hmm! Curious. I want to clarify that unlike several other Middle-earth languages (Quenya, Sindarin, Khuzdul, Danian, Leikvian) -- in the case of Westron,...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 4, 2007 11:04 am
I didn't mention Bëorian in the original post. A few words of Bëorian are known, such as <bëor> "vassal" and <nóm> "wisdom". I think the solution to...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 4, 2007 11:04 am
Another Mannish tongue I left out was that of the Wainriders. Though I listed "quasi-Hunnic" for the Balchoth in the original post, upon further thought, I...
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Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Dec 4, 2007 3:15 pm
... invented by Tolkien first, and then an etymology was developed for it. "Balchoth"; is one of the strangest names in the legendarium, since it ... speech,...
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iiipitaka
Dec 4, 2007 3:28 pm
... Arvernien also makes sense given the location of Arvenien within Beleriand. If Tolkien ever conceived of Beleriand as a kind of mythical Europe, Arvernien...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 5, 2007 2:33 am
... The idea that "Balc(hoth)" was inspired by "Bulg(ar)/Balg(ar)/Balk(ar)" is not exclusive of Tolkien using words he'd already invented. I didn't make it...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Dec 5, 2007 2:51 pm
... I just wonder: could the old version be left also accessible, in order that the comparison be possible? It would be nice to see the evolution... Lukas...
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Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Dec 8, 2007 8:00 pm
Hey, all — recently someone wanted a tattoo done saying "Not all those who wander are lost" and "Not all that glitters is gold" in Elvish. She translated the...
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hisweloke
Dec 9, 2007 1:16 pm
David Salo wrote ... Interrestingly enough, perhaps, _Arverni_ is apparentyl sometimes interpreted as "those who are beside the Alder", with a gaulish etymon ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 9, 2007 1:17 pm
... Yes, there is the Revelation translation (all 22 chapters of it), but as I said, I'll soon publish a drastically revised version to reflect the relative...
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trilogy9@...
Dec 9, 2007 1:17 pm
Matt, I read "Not who wander are lost" as i reviar rohen. Hope this helps. di ... From: Matthew Dinse <tyrhael_idhraen@...> To: elfling@yahoogroups.com...
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Annaka Shultz
crowbabe74
Dec 12, 2007 11:43 am
Hi everyone, I'm new to the group, but this thread caught my interest, so I thought no one would mind if I replied. I have been researching different people's...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Dec 13, 2007 1:00 pm
... I have never thought that completely systematic soundlaws exist between Quenya and Finnish. I have suggested that occasional sound-inspirations are clearly...
