What is actually known of diminutives in Eldarin? _atya_, _ataryo_ and _atto_ from _atar_ and the suffix _*-inki*_ seem to be all there is. /BP 8^)> -- Benct...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Oct 28, 2007 6:46 am
... out Khuzdul, etc.) would most certainly be "fan fiction" and nothing else! < I think anyone who desires to create a version of Khuzdul that follows as much...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 26, 2007 4:21 pm
... Nicely put. "Developing" languages from outside the Elvish family is however difficult, if one wants to maintain the contact with Tolkien's original work. ...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 25, 2007 2:22 pm
These are the passages and principles which enable two words and one prefix in the former language of the southern Stoors and the Bree-men to be deciphered. 1)...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 25, 2007 2:20 pm
If the language of the southern Stoors and Bree-men had similar phonetic processes as Welsh, then "father, dad" may've actually been <tab> instead of <dab>,...
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Sai Emrys
saizai1
Oct 24, 2007 12:47 pm
See the <http://conlangs.berkeley.edu> home page for the most up-to-date details, or the copy below. Please (re)distribute this email widely, and especially,...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 23, 2007 11:46 am
... Reviewing "Of Dwarves and Men" in Peoples of Middle-earth, I see that "some ancient language" is Second Age "Rhovanion Hadoric". If the fictive translation...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 22, 2007 10:42 pm
... Well, if these crops were brought to Ennor before the rounding of Arda and the raising of the New Lands near the end of the Second Age, then the crops...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 22, 2007 4:51 pm
... Thorsten has responded in private (granting me permission to quote him here): "No, I did not. Like you, I viewed the exchange as civil, and I did not see...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 21, 2007 3:26 pm
I'm glad that there is either resolution, or at least a conclusion, to several of the disagreements. Though I'm meandering into other topics, here are some...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Oct 19, 2007 3:33 pm
Travis, Lest the following seem like just an endless and mean-spirited harangue, let me assure you that this is not my intention, and I'm very happy to make...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 19, 2007 11:04 am
... Both you and I have already stated evidence that Tolkien "had some knowledge of these languages". I do not suggest that Tolkien was a master Babylonianist,...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Oct 18, 2007 5:45 pm
... Jason, you have expressed a concern of mine, lasting about 8 years, when I first heard that 'Valarin is based on Sumerian'. I don't know anything about...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Oct 18, 2007 4:11 pm
Travis, ... You do?! Well, it sounds like you may have a hunch or a feeling that Tolkien had some knowledge of these languages, but is there any actual...
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traversetravis
Oct 18, 2007 3:10 pm
Also, I suggest that, unless stated otherwise by Tolkien -- such as his statement that long /e:/ and /o:/ were correctly pronounced as monophthongs, though the...
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traversetravis
Oct 18, 2007 3:10 pm
... Akkadian to Tolkien.<< *You* may have no reason to ascribe very much knowledge of Sumerian or Akkadian to Tolkien, but *I* do. :-) I imagine that Tolkien...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Oct 17, 2007 2:46 pm
... Interesting thoughts, Travis. But don't forget that the double /k/ is also typical of Finnish, on which we know Tolkien modeled much of the early Qenya...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 17, 2007 12:07 pm
Ardalambion gives a solid overview of Actual Westron: http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/westron.htm There are a few things I would add: At the bottom of the...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 17, 2007 12:06 pm
There are several examples of the Translated Northern language -- that is, Old Norse -- such as the westronized/anglicized <Dalr> "Dale", <Bardr>, <Brandr>,...
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traversetravis
Oct 17, 2007 12:06 pm
... Honestly, I don't know for sure if the Akkadian is borrowed from the Sumerian word, I only guessed that it is. Oops! :-) Travis...
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traversetravis
Oct 15, 2007 12:32 pm
Thanks for the help Helge! I've been wondering... Based on the "external method" of looking for Primary World origins and inspirations for the Secondary World,...
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traversetravis
Oct 15, 2007 12:32 pm
... Yep, thanks for pointing out Tolkien's "Fictive Etymology for a (Typically Obscure) Word" device. This device is also found, for example, in Tolkien's...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 15, 2007 12:32 pm
... Well, thank you for your feedback, then. I must urge people to carefully read what I actually write, and not rely on an (often superficial) impression of...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Oct 14, 2007 7:14 pm
... Clearly this is one of the cases where Tolkien took a Wanderwort or word of obscure etymology and provided it with an Eldarin 'etymology'. At the time it...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Oct 13, 2007 2:22 pm
... According to _tiw hin_, the noun should come first, so *_parf hen_ without 'mixed' mutation ... Perhaps you'd like another neo-Elvish word I remember from...
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don Michele Bigi
manvalan
Oct 13, 2007 12:23 pm
Dear friends, I’d like building an ex-libris for my personal library. I’d like to write this : Questo libro è della Biblioteca di Manvalan (this is a book...
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iiipitaka
Oct 12, 2007 4:04 pm
... I should like to point out that, despite the name, the current list called "elfling-d" has no connection with the Elfling list, and is neither sponsored...
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aelindis
Oct 12, 2007 2:02 pm
... I believe Bill Welden pointed out that it was a sort of injoke built into Qenya because a similar word with a similar meaning has been reconstructed for...
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TF
percival64
Oct 11, 2007 7:30 pm
Hi, here is one attempt: http://middangeard.org.uk/aglardh/?q=node/30 Shine on ... Thomas Ferencz Let's discuss Eldarin languages -...
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Nancy Roberts
mirandarotunda
Oct 11, 2007 4:41 pm
Is there a translation of A Elbereth into Quenya? (I suppose it would start, A Varda?) thanks nan roberts...
