... The *process* is not unattested, since it is simply the same i-affection process seen in other words. The proposed forms (degyr/deigor) fall out simply...
... Not anymore - in PE17:149 the roots UK, UKLA yield Q. _ulca_, S. _ogl_, pl. _egl_, _eigl_, _eigil_ (syllabic _-l._ results here in _-il_ as in _megil_). ...
I have let this matter rest for several weeks, to avoid what could possibly become an overheated debate. The other party concerned need not be in a hurry to...
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 1, 2007 10:30 pm
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... True, indeed. I am afraid I poorly expressed myself. My point was only that the issue was not with _magol_ only, but that we did not have so far (before...
... No important difference. It's just especially used for epenthesis of a vowel between an obstruent and a sonorant. It often (though not always) implies a...
Hello all interested in the Khuzdul language, I'm going to make a website and Yahoo Tech Group as forums for research into and development of Tolkein's...
Hail, all! The Yahoo Group is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dwarfling/messages I'm looking for someone to take over moderating and promoting it for me. It's...
... Thanks, my reply will be brief and simple. ... Thankfully there is no question about what has been written. I don't believe you have ever stated explicitly...
Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Oct 2, 2007 6:44 pm
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You know, you could just post information here. caio Graeme...
... This seems to be true some of the time, yes. An interesting verb is _orta-_, which we knew could be transitive "raise", since Varda _ortane_ or "uplifted"...
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 3, 2007 1:01 am
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I know that Quenya for axe is <pelecco>. Did Tolkien give the Sindarin word? If not, has anyone seen a Neo-Sindarin version? My best is *<pelech>, modeled on Q...
... Sindarin word? If not, has anyone seen a Neo-Sindarin version? Well, _pelekko_ is Qenya — why not use S. _hathol_ (WJ:234), which is in that place...
Graeme wrote: "You know, you could just post information here." Technically, yes, that is true. However, I have found that Elfling members seem very hesitant...
Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Oct 4, 2007 2:29 pm
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Thanks for the help everybody. I'm glad to know Tolkien's word <hathol>. Yet for the name of kingdom of "Axe-land", I favor <Pelegnor> -- with the Sindarin...
... The trouble is that _pelekko_ (PE12:73) is actually Qenya, and _peleg_ (PE11:64) is Goldogrin. I venture to doubt whether the result of such an adaptation...
... _peleg_ ... such ... Unless there's an extant Quenya word for axe, I don't see any obstacle to adapting the Qenya word for use in Neo-Quenya. I recognize...
... Quite true, I guess. And moreover - why not use an example given by Tolkien himself? In the Silmarillion we find: Dor-Cúarthol "Land of Bow and Helm" ...
... Such adaptations seem to be common practice in Neo-Quenya writing. If there were an extant Quenya word for "axe", however, Neo-Quenya writers would...
... There are two kinds of adaptation involved here. One is an external adoption (in the Primary World) of a Qenya word as Quenya, simply so that there is a...
... This is a fine name. I might change my mind someday and prefer <Dor- Hathol> instead of <Pelegnor>. However, right now, it seems best for the Sindarin name...
... ... which should only come into play if you are left with some reasonable possibilities from the etymological point of view, I think. You are making...
... That is a good point. Yes, *<pelecco> should have a Quendian root...even if the root has to be invented*. It seems likely that Tolkien did not list all of...
I would like to announce a large-scale update to Sindanórie: - The article on names from RS/TI/WR now includes the known interpretations from PE17 of _Tol...
... root...even if the root has to be invented. It seems likely that Tolkien did not list all of the Quendian roots, and that many would need to be invented. ...
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 10, 2007 3:38 pm
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... In all probability, pelekko is inspired from Greek _pelekys_, a word for axe. Either this, or we are talking about a near-impossible coincidence here....