... The *process* is not unattested, since it is simply the same i-affection process seen in other words. The proposed forms (degyr/deigor) fall out simply...
34457
Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Oct 1, 2007 9:31 am
... Not anymore - in PE17:149 the roots UK, UKLA yield Q. _ulca_, S. _ogl_, pl. _egl_, _eigl_, _eigil_ (syllabic _-l._ results here in _-il_ as in _megil_). ...
34458
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 1, 2007 10:30 pm
I have let this matter rest for several weeks, to avoid what could possibly become an overheated debate. The other party concerned need not be in a hurry to...
34459
hisweloke
Oct 1, 2007 10:38 pm
... True, indeed. I am afraid I poorly expressed myself. My point was only that the issue was not with _magol_ only, but that we did not have so far (before...
34460
iiipitaka
Oct 1, 2007 10:46 pm
... No important difference. It's just especially used for epenthesis of a vowel between an obstruent and a sonorant. It often (though not always) implies a...
34461
Lawrence J. Rogers
little_l_jrjr
Oct 2, 2007 6:43 pm
Hello all interested in the Khuzdul language, I'm going to make a website and Yahoo Tech Group as forums for research into and development of Tolkein's...
34462
Lawrence J. Rogers
little_l_jrjr
Oct 2, 2007 6:43 pm
Hail, all! The Yahoo Group is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dwarfling/messages I'm looking for someone to take over moderating and promoting it for me. It's...
34463
Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Oct 2, 2007 6:44 pm
... Thanks, my reply will be brief and simple. ... Thankfully there is no question about what has been written. I don't believe you have ever stated explicitly...
34464
finsen@...
ravenduongla...
Oct 3, 2007 1:01 am
You know, you could just post information here. caio Graeme...
34465
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 3, 2007 1:01 am
... This seems to be true some of the time, yes. An interesting verb is _orta-_, which we knew could be transitive "raise", since Varda _ortane_ or "uplifted";...
34466
Travis Henry
traversetravis
Oct 3, 2007 12:08 pm
I know that Quenya for axe is <pelecco>. Did Tolkien give the Sindarin word? If not, has anyone seen a Neo-Sindarin version? My best is *<pelech>, modeled on Q...
34467
Terry Dock
melhael
Oct 3, 2007 2:49 pm
... My bet would be on *_Pelechnor_ or maybe *_Pelegnor_? I don't know exactly how pelech+(n)dor would behave. --Terry...
34468
Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Oct 3, 2007 3:25 pm
... Sindarin word? If not, has anyone seen a Neo-Sindarin version? Well, _pelekko_ is Qenya — why not use S. _hathol_ (WJ:234), which is in that place...
34469
aelindis
Oct 3, 2007 4:17 pm
... While I agree with your suggestions otherwise, it seems to me that (N.) _hathol_ would rather come from _SYAD-_ (V:389). *Erna...
34470
Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Oct 3, 2007 6:29 pm
... Ack! Thanks for catching that! :) - Matt...
34471
Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Oct 4, 2007 2:29 pm
Graeme wrote: "You know, you could just post information here." Technically, yes, that is true. However, I have found that Elfling members seem very hesitant...
34472
traversetravis
Oct 4, 2007 2:31 pm
Thanks for the help everybody. I'm glad to know Tolkien's word <hathol>. Yet for the name of kingdom of "Axe-land";, I favor <Pelegnor> -- with the Sindarin...
34473
aelindis
Oct 4, 2007 4:15 pm
... The trouble is that _pelekko_ (PE12:73) is actually Qenya, and _peleg_ (PE11:64) is Goldogrin. I venture to doubt whether the result of such an adaptation...
34474
finsen@...
ravenduongla...
Oct 6, 2007 3:07 am
I can remember back in about 2000/01 there was massive discussions about Khuzdul here at Elfling. But each to their own. caio Graeme...
34475
traversetravis
Oct 6, 2007 3:07 am
... _peleg_ ... such ... Unless there's an extant Quenya word for axe, I don't see any obstacle to adapting the Qenya word for use in Neo-Quenya. I recognize...
34476
W.Potrawa
w_potrawa
Oct 6, 2007 3:07 am
... Quite true, I guess. And moreover - why not use an example given by Tolkien himself? In the Silmarillion we find: Dor-Cúarthol "Land of Bow and Helm" ...
34477
aelindis
Oct 6, 2007 10:29 am
... Such adaptations seem to be common practice in Neo-Quenya writing. If there were an extant Quenya word for "axe", however, Neo-Quenya writers would...
34478
traversetravis
Oct 7, 2007 2:49 am
... There are two kinds of adaptation involved here. One is an external adoption (in the Primary World) of a Qenya word as Quenya, simply so that there is a...
34479
traversetravis
Oct 7, 2007 2:49 am
... This is a fine name. I might change my mind someday and prefer <Dor- Hathol> instead of <Pelegnor>. However, right now, it seems best for the Sindarin name...
34480
Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Oct 7, 2007 6:11 pm
... ... which should only come into play if you are left with some reasonable possibilities from the etymological point of view, I think. You are making...
34481
traversetravis
Oct 8, 2007 1:56 pm
... That is a good point. Yes, *<pelecco> should have a Quendian root...even if the root has to be invented*. It seems likely that Tolkien did not list all of...
34482
Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Oct 8, 2007 3:03 pm
I would like to announce a large-scale update to Sindanórie: - The article on names from RS/TI/WR now includes the known interpretations from PE17 of _Tol...
34483
Petri Tikka
petristikka
Oct 9, 2007 8:52 pm
_Muina súre_ I métima súre túla, Vanwa anaro anna, Mar olorion cuine. Narquelie sandaron. Ando wistanna. Man lantuva? Lisse maurenyava Tulta nye savien ...
34484
Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Oct 10, 2007 3:38 pm
... root...even if the root has to be invented. It seems likely that Tolkien did not list all of the Quendian roots, and that many would need to be invented. ...
34485
Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Oct 10, 2007 3:43 pm
... In all probability, pelekko is inspired from Greek _pelekys_, a word for axe. Either this, or we are talking about a near-impossible coincidence here....
