... It seems I may just not be smart enough to grasp how this is done - because my first impression upon reading VT49 was 'Wow - what a mess this is going to...
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Nan Roberts
mirandarotunda
Aug 3, 2007 6:16 am
Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right group to ask, perhaps you could redirect me if not. I'm making an artist book about elvish. Can I do that? It will be...
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Travis Henry
traversetravis
Aug 3, 2007 6:17 am
I'm working on Middle-earth's equivalent of the Kingdom of Ethiopia, in Far Harad. Tolkien wrote an essay called "Sigelwara Land", that investigates the origin...
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christinaevelinandersen
christinaeve...
Aug 3, 2007 6:18 am
Finally i found all the sign etc that i needed to write this tattoo in Sandarin. It is english words that i translatet to Sandarin(at least I think so) Now i...
34268
elendil_voronda
Aug 3, 2007 6:18 am
Second installment of the Akallabęth translation: As I said in my previous messages, I will assume that this text is written in the archaic Book Quenya. I...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Aug 3, 2007 8:12 am
It's Sindarin, with an 'i' :) It mostly seems fine to me, unless someone else has to propose better words. As for the grammar, the 3rd line would better be 'ah...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Aug 3, 2007 10:13 am
My humble opinion is that this qualifies as fair use. Nobody is going to hunt you down for making a gift. It would be only polite to contact the authors...
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TF
percival64
Aug 3, 2007 11:18 am
My personal favourite for the "shining jewel" element is Early Qenya _sinqe_ "gem, jewel" (PE15:72, 74) which may (or may not) have been influenced by OE ...
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TF
percival64
Aug 3, 2007 11:25 am
Hi, I do not really subscribe to the idea that the past participle would be simply formed by a suffixed copula (but it's just a personal opinion since I am not...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Aug 3, 2007 1:55 pm
I am happy to present an updated version of my article "The Quenya Pronominal System - a summary" http://www.phy.duke.edu/~trenk/elvish/quenya_pronouns.html on...
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S P
elenyona
Aug 3, 2007 4:45 pm
Thanks for the update, Thorsten. The early Qenya examples make it all the more interesting. I too was just updating my own personal grammar theory (kudos to...
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Giel van Schijndel
me@...
Aug 3, 2007 5:07 pm
Actually if you copy the full texts of these poems this most likely won't be fair use (not by European copyright law at least). Though copyright law only...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Aug 3, 2007 5:19 pm
... In the drafts to the 'Lord of the Rings' Tolkien gave Harad the Westron/English names 'Harwan, Silharrows, Harrowland, Sunharrowland' (TI:439), clearly...
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"Beregond. Ander...
j_beregond
Aug 3, 2007 11:25 pm
Mellyn! The first volume of _Arda Philology_, containing the proceedings of Omentielva Minya in Stockholm August 2005, is now being printed. More information...
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Nancy Roberts
mirandarotunda
Aug 4, 2007 2:23 am
THank you Lakis and Giel. That was very helpful. This is going to take me some time, I've found. There are lots of elements that I have to learn, like the...
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traversetravis
Aug 4, 2007 2:24 am
Thanks TF and Roman Rausch for your help. That link to Tolkien's alternate Harad names is useful indeed. Travis...
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"Beregond. Ander...
j_beregond
Aug 5, 2007 4:09 am
Mellyn! If anybody wishes to make a last-minute registration for Omentielva Tatya, do so at latest tomorrow Thursday. Use the PayPal button on the registration...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Aug 6, 2007 3:22 am
... is going to make of any Neo-Quenya pronominal system.' I can't see why. Now we can tell with some confidence what Tolkien's revisions really involved, and...
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Andrew Higgins
asthiggins
Aug 6, 2007 3:25 am
Thorsten Suliad! Excellent. I was actually using your original article and writing in the updates. Very helpful. Thanks, Andy Andrew Higgins ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Aug 6, 2007 7:05 am
... Okay - so then the question is - how seriously are we going to take it? ... When I take a long, good look at the paradigm in VT49:16, I see _-t_ *only* in...
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Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Aug 6, 2007 7:33 pm
Hello; On the LotRPlaza forum I recently came across a translation request for the following. I ran across some problems (like how to express the word "fae"),...
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faelach69
Aug 7, 2007 3:00 am
... the ... looking ... well. ... treat ... that ... that ... in ... This ... Concerning the dative, I think that you could translate it either way, but I...
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trilogy9@...
Aug 7, 2007 2:54 pm
Beregond, suil! Please give me more info on Omentielva Tatya!!! I'm fairly new here and I missed it. Blessings, Dianna...
34287
faelach69
Aug 7, 2007 10:57 pm
Hello everybody, my name's Bj Ward. I've been studying Tolkien languages since 2000, when I was 9 - needless to say, I know (and understand) alot more than I...
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faelach69
Aug 7, 2007 10:58 pm
VT49:14 states that the Quenya future tense marker -uva is related to the "independent verb uva", which is glossed "impend, be imminent". What I'd like to...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Aug 8, 2007 8:30 am
In the course of working in detail through VT49, there are more updates on the way: I have now included all new past tense forms into my article on past tenses...
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TF
percival64
Aug 8, 2007 9:51 am
Hi, it is quite possible that both are late independent innovations and CE and PQ did not have a future tense form at all. It would be interesting to see a...
34291
meneldilv
Aug 8, 2007 2:58 pm
... (except for some very early Qenya stuff). You might say: _...apa hlarie_ "after hearing (a rumour that...)" Or you could go for a tense-less gerund in...
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TF
percival64
Aug 8, 2007 3:31 pm
... I agree with this, languages can operate quite well with three tenses only... ... Every translation is a periphrasis, so there is no problem in that:) Of...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Aug 8, 2007 3:43 pm
... No sentence _requires_ pluperfect, as any sentence is translatable into Czech, and Czech has no pluperfect (just simple present, past and future). And we...
