Angaudlinn seems to be made of Sindarin words, while lindale is a Quenya word. Angaudlindale could be not 'correct' but it can pass as a portmanteau...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Jul 10, 2007 9:04 pm
_Arnoediad_ is attested as a "Noldorin"; variant; _Arnediad_ is Sindarin, according to Dragon Flame. Arthur ... Ahem, isn't it Nirnaeth Arnoediad? Jason Fisher ...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 10, 2007 9:47 pm
Hmm, interesting. Well, consider me schooled. :) But I would still probably opt for the standardized form used by CJRT myself. In the meantime, I've downloaded...
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jesper@...
simplyanalogue
Jul 10, 2007 10:54 pm
Certainly... now I feel stupid... :( But the other Q then? (I corrected the spelling that didn't make sense before) How would you experts make a difference...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Jul 11, 2007 7:08 am
I don't know about Noldorin but Arnoediad is the archaic form, while Arnediad is how it could have evolved in 3rd Age...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Jul 11, 2007 8:51 am
I only know what I read at Dragon Flame, but I look upon "Noldorin"; as archaic Sindarin. On Dragon Flame Arnoediad is listed as Middle Sindarin. Whatever....
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aelindis
Jul 11, 2007 9:00 am
... Sindarin, according to Dragon Flame. Actually, both _arnoediad_ and _arnediad_ are attested in the Noldorin of the Etymologies (LR:378, LR:349). ... CJRT...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 2:34 pm
... Well, since Christopher chose the form "Arnoediad" for both "The Silmarillion" and "The Children of Hśrin" (though in the latter, it may have been merely...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Jul 11, 2007 3:12 pm
Jason Fisher <visualweasel@...> wrote: And in any case, if one is going to quote from S or CoH, as Arthur did... Actually I never quoted S or CoH, which...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 3:32 pm
... Okay, sure, Arthur -- I do, happily, acknowledge that both forms are attested. I was only curious about your reasons for choosing the much lesser known...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Jul 11, 2007 7:15 pm
... As the guy said, he just based himself on Dragonflame. However, according to Helge, and other documents I read, evidence shows that the vowel _oe_ (NOT the...
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aelindis
Jul 11, 2007 7:27 pm
... Silmarillion" and "The Children of Hśrin" (though in the latter, it may have been merely for consistency with the former; although, OTOH, he's perfectly...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 7:40 pm
... Just so. But that's no basis on which Erna should judge Christopher's intentions, which was the claim I was asking about. But I'm perfectly happy to drop...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 8:02 pm
... Yes, of course he did. ... True, no question. ... Now that was a good, thorough answer -- thanks! You're quite right that Chrisopher would never have...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Jul 11, 2007 8:05 pm
Now that we have finally received confirmation that the past tense of "to be" can be _né_, the question remains how we are to add pronominal suffixes to the...
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aelindis
Jul 11, 2007 8:36 pm
... intentions, which was the claim I was asking about. I have already answered that question. ... Age would *want* to "modernize" the spelling of the battle...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 9:14 pm
... But not before I sent that reply. ... Yes, he did. So why not use Nķrnaeth Arnediad, then? ... Who's not making an effort? Look, the claim has been made...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Jul 11, 2007 9:37 pm
I am so glad I'm going to on a plane for 14 hours flying between Beijing and NYC. This "debate" is too funny. Enjoy the hair splitting. *grin* Arthur ... But...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 11, 2007 9:57 pm
... Not sure which is worse, this debate or a transcontinental flight, hahae. Hope your flight is a good one. :)...
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aelindis
Jul 11, 2007 11:29 pm
... (citing Dragon Flame and Helge Fauskanger) that Arnoediad is an older form (First Age), Arnediad a later one (Third Age). It seems that you are confusing...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Jul 12, 2007 6:15 am
... We do that all the time in the real world, writing e.g. "the battle of Hastings" rather than "the battle of Hęstingas", and e.g. "Actium" rather than...
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Rodrigo Jaroszewski
rjaroszewski
Jul 12, 2007 6:25 am
My two cents: Could we settle, on the Quenya Course, for a standard where _ane-_ is to be used with all suffixes, but preferentially short ones when they are ...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Jul 12, 2007 10:00 am
The subject line got garbled when I first sent this, due to a misbehaving reformatter. ... We do that all the time in the real world, writing e.g. "the battle...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 12, 2007 2:38 pm
... No, I don't think I am. And I would say in return that it seems you are simply missing my point. So you win; have it your way. You guys can change all the...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Jul 12, 2007 2:54 pm
... Finally! A genuinely satisfactory answer! This is an excellent point. So perhaps Arthur is imagining himself in Third Age Middle-earth ... Thanks very...
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jesper@...
simplyanalogue
Jul 13, 2007 3:21 pm
Hi! Trying to come up with a suitable name for my upcoming music album I'm toying with the word "silver-circle" (meaning CD) in sindarin. "of silver" is...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Jul 13, 2007 5:42 pm
We have Celebrin-dal and Celebrim-bor however Celeb-dil instead of Celebrin-dil and Celeb-orn istead of Celebrin-orn We also have Caradhras instead of Caranras...
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Evenstar
evenstar62
Jul 13, 2007 8:26 pm
Hi! On my forum, someone asked an interesting question: How is the feminine form of words? In French, not only the word is turn up into feminine, but the...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Jul 13, 2007 9:58 pm
Have a look at Ardalambion, the article about name translations (now we all have Elvish names) and the one about the affixes and word elements... my opinion is...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Jul 14, 2007 10:17 am
... To make the point more precise, there is some degree of gender-marking in Tolkien's languages and agental affixes are often paired in a male and female...
