I've been following all the discussions on the film dialogues and related matters with great interest - especially Bill's comments, and have done as he...
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feanaro13
Jan 29, 2007 1:37 am
Okay, I have looked at a lot of the websites that try and help people translate english to sindarin but I got to be honest, I am having difficulty putting it...
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jesper@...
simplyanalogue
Jan 29, 2007 6:38 am
When I write odd words (for example swedish) with tengwar letters I use the sounds, not the equivalent letters. Like "J" in my name which in swedish is ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Jan 29, 2007 1:12 pm
(10) Arwen: _A si i-Dhúath ú-orthor, Aragorn._ Arwen: _Ú or le a ú or nin._ ... Arwen: _Renich i lú i erui govannem?_ Aragorn: _Nauthannen i ned ôl...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Jan 29, 2007 4:32 pm
... Perhaps one could count it as a case similar to _ed_, which "retains its consonant in the form _ed_ before vowels, but loses it before consonants, though...
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Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Jan 29, 2007 7:54 pm
... [snip] ... [snip] ... [snip] ... mean > the same as in Quenya. [snip] ... It seems to me that this is a past participial form inspired by the passage...
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Susn Frances Edwards ...
frances_peac...
Jan 29, 2007 8:27 pm
Roman wondered why Arwen was speaking to Frodo by that name and not either of the versions of his name found in the Cormallen Praise, or in the King's letter....
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nakago5000
Jan 31, 2007 4:40 pm
... While I am no expert, and I may be misunderstanding what you are saying, just transliterating into an elvish mode (in this case sindarin) of tengwar, I do...
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Noam Bonneau
gatowhite2000
Jan 31, 2007 4:43 pm
Actually, I believe that _gwanwen_ is actually an adjectival formation, i.e. '(something) lost', and the sentence in question is actually to be translated...
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jesper@...
simplyanalogue
Jan 31, 2007 6:36 pm
... I think we meant the same. I dislike trying to translate a person's name into sindarin and then writing _that_ with tengwar. Writing english with tengwar...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Feb 1, 2007 9:09 am
... Given the quote Matthew found "These were also called by the Sindarin _Gwanwen_, pl. _Gwenwin_ (or _Gwanwel_, pl. _Gwenwil_) 'the departed', cf. Q _vanwa_"...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Feb 1, 2007 6:01 pm
... Nothing, if they would have appeared in the Sindarin passages only. :-) Besides, there were subtitles, while many phrases in the book were left...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Feb 2, 2007 8:04 am
... I essentially agree with Roman on that one. Would you likewise suggest that a movie scene which is supposed to take place in, say, Germany should *not* use...
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e_tremain
Feb 4, 2007 7:16 pm
Tolkien's languages are my hobby. I use them primarily to create names for stories. Recently, I decided to go a step further and take an English phrase,...
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jesper@...
simplyanalogue
Feb 4, 2007 8:25 pm
I'm also a novice, but why the "help letter" below the E? Drop it and put the E above the L. Those "help letters" should only be used when there is no letter...
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aelindis
Feb 6, 2007 6:59 am
... wanted to double check. I venture to doubt whether this translation would be right. _ú-_ seems to be a prefix, reversing the meaning of a verb or noun. It...
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Matthew Dinse
tyrhael_idhraen
Feb 6, 2007 8:45 pm
... However, if the meaning is adjectival rather than imperative, I'd suggest using _pen-_ "without, lacking", though I'm not sure what mutation that'd cause. ...
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nakago5000
Feb 7, 2007 7:16 pm
... The term you are looking for is "carrier". You are correct, though, as far as I can tell. Emily, as he stated you should remove the short carrier below...
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Robin Holliger
robin_holliger
Feb 7, 2007 7:16 pm
Hope I can help ... About the use of _ú_ : if Thorsten Renk don't mind me quoting what he ... Would it work to say "no fear" ? You judge ;) I think a point...
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Margaret
anvanya2000
Feb 7, 2007 7:16 pm
Upon looking into DRAGON FLAME/HESPERIDES, U is listed as either a negative prefix OR as a PARTICLE. Since e_tremain is using the Hersperides dictionary, she...
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torrey.hoffman
Feb 7, 2007 7:17 pm
Hello! I have transcribed Hurin's battle-cry, "Aure entuluva!" into Tengwar, but this is my first attempt at writing Quenya in Tengwar, so I'm asking for...
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Margaret
anvanya2000
Feb 7, 2007 7:18 pm
Hi Emily, You can download DRAGON FLAME freeware from the internet. The dictionary has both Engish and Sindarin words, and a recent addition shows the Tengwar...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Feb 8, 2007 7:50 am
... May I kindly remind you that I consider it rather irrelevant what a dictionary/website/book lists as valid form as long as you cannot point me to this form...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Feb 8, 2007 6:27 pm
Hi Torrey All your attempts, transcription, understanding, pronunciation etc seem perfectly correct, at least to me. Congratulations for your effort, and watch...
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Robert Wheelock
rob_wheel12
Feb 9, 2007 4:00 pm
Hello, Torrey! About your transcription of the motto Aure entuluva! into Tengwar, it's read as /aw-reh e-ntuu-loo-vah/ (aw like in now, r like in Spanish pero...
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Emily Tremain
e_tremain
Feb 10, 2007 3:57 pm
Thanks everyone for your help! It seems like I couldn't have picked a more difficult phrase to translate. Why are the simplest things always the most ...
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aelindis
Feb 11, 2007 11:20 am
... N/S _al-_ seems to be a prefix, from the root _LA-_, which was reduced to [vocalic] _l_ and later became "Q _il_, N _al_, as in _Ilkorin_, N _Alchoron_",...
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michiru
michiru_benson
Feb 15, 2007 5:42 pm
Mae govannen, i mellyn nín phain! I would like to cognate a Quenya compound word for "Star-child", and my trial is *Elencín or *Elcin, derived from P.E....
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Feb 15, 2007 11:23 pm
You already have in Quenya _Eruhin_ "Child of Eru" with the plural _Eruhíni_, therefore "Starchild" would be *_Elenhin_ with plural *_Elenhíni_. Why the...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Feb 16, 2007 5:31 pm
... But it appears that Quenya phonology does not permit such a combination (nasal + spirant). As we can see for instance from MBAKH- in 'The Etymologies', the...
