... I'd vote for the root being ultimately NL', final aleph. *na^la' parallel to za^ram > na^la *nul' parallel to khuzd, bund > nul The Dwarves had a rune (35)...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Feb 3, 1999 12:31 am
... ... PS- with all the consonants (46 for Angerthas Moria), that totals 97,336 total combinations of consonants. And that's just with 3 consonants. Isn't...
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Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
Feb 3, 1999 1:33 am
... Why not? I believe Tolkien was after a set of languages which would look as natural as possible. I wish we had enough info to set Quenya in front of a...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 4, 1999 3:11 am
... lexical ... the ... guess ... to ... languages ... n, r, ... roots ... know ... have a ... I'm told that a well educated Englishman uses some 2000-3000...
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
Feb 5, 1999 12:23 am
... For a distinct Eldarin to have emerged, the three clans of the Eldar must have had a relatively close contact during the march. Several sources indicate...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Feb 5, 1999 3:46 am
... But you forget one thing: Elwe was lost on a journey visiting his family and friends among the Noldor. I think it a great mistake to think the Eldar just...
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Josu Gomez
josu@...
Feb 6, 1999 12:40 am
In the Spanish Tolkien Society's annual meeting (Sabadell, December 1998) I gave a lecture called "Sociolinguistica Beleriandica" (Sociolinguistics of...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Feb 6, 1999 12:59 am
[Andreas Johansson:] ... situation, ... languages ... [Måns Björkman:] ... Whether it really fits the internal history or not, I don't think we can dispense...
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
Feb 6, 1999 12:59 am
... Yes, that's in _The Silmarillion_. ... There undoubtedly was much contact between the three groups, and their languages undoubtedly influenced each other,...
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stonefeather@...
Feb 6, 1999 1:00 am
... Looking at the historical framework, the awakening of the Quendi at Kuivieenen occurs in KY 1050, the Separation of Eldar and Avari in VY 1105 (ending the...
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Josu Gomez
josu@...
Feb 6, 1999 1:39 am
Mensaje en español, para el servicio de traducción :) (gracias!!) ... Exacto. El cambio más típico que conocemos es el de Elfico común QU- > Telerin ...
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Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
Feb 6, 1999 1:39 am
(Translation by Dorothea Salo. Any awkwardness in the English or error caused by the translation is her fault.) ... early ... between ... Exactly. The most...
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Jan McCoy
leonita79@...
Feb 6, 1999 2:37 am
I am Jan McCoy. I have had an interest in Tolkien for years and recently an interest in Linguistics. I'm still very much a beginner, but I know I can learn a...
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Mans Bjorkman
mansb@...
Feb 6, 1999 3:57 pm
Mellyn, I've seen several points worth considering here regarding the existence/non-existence of Common Eldarin. I will moderate my diagram and comments in...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Feb 6, 1999 10:02 pm
... If you practice long enough, you can become very adept at dodging thoughts... I can't answer the question about Quenya right now, both from a lack of ...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Feb 11, 1999 4:15 am
There has been so much activity on this list lately that interesting questions can easily get lost among all the postings. I remember that someone asked how...
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Brook Conner
nellardo@...
Feb 11, 1999 4:15 am
... Surely someone here must know a linguist who has not been exposed to Quenya - set them down with some of the texts from various books, and see what they...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 12, 1999 3:17 am
... that) ... and ... Masc name _Ancalimo_ would also seem to be okay. Andreas ... eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/elfling Free Web-based e-mail...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Feb 13, 1999 10:15 pm
Hi everyone! I've decided to write down all my thoughts and questions about Khuzdul, and role it into one large post instead of spamming the board with 2000 ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 16, 1999 12:13 am
... be ... According to the Appendices to LotR, it's like Sanskrit "kh". Swedish also aspirates initial k-, but Khuzdul has probably a more strongly aspirated...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Feb 16, 1999 12:13 am
... The use of two words, a hyphenated word, or a single word in writing has no bearing on the meaning; it is purely a spelling convention of English. In ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 16, 1999 6:51 pm
... know ... is ... the ... How ... "Blackroot"? ... Quenya ... There's also the possibility that B-Z-N and N-R-G carries slightly different meanings; B-Z-N...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Feb 16, 1999 6:52 pm
... Hm, I think it is generally a good idea to write many (well, several) short (well, shorter) posts instead of one mega-post! People will be completely ...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Feb 17, 1999 3:23 am
... I could live with this. However, do we not already have Z-N for "dark/dim"; from "Azanulbizar"? And funny how B-Z-N includes Z-N..... Might "azan" somehow...
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Jay Lawson
lawson@...
Feb 17, 1999 3:23 am
Thanks to those who have so far responded to my tiny little post, "TONS of Khuzdul". :) In the future, I will post things in pieces as Helge points out...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Feb 17, 1999 3:23 am
Helge Fauskanger wrote: (quoting Jay Lawson) ... Possibly the Dwarves took *Nara^k(a) as a plural, along the lines of Khaza^d and Rakha^s (and tara^g...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Feb 18, 1999 2:28 pm
Helge Fauskanger wrote: (quoting Jay Lawson) ... attributive ... the ... (LR.374 ... **The Dwarves were living there before the Elves showed up, and river ...
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Andreas Johansson
and_yo@...
Feb 18, 1999 2:29 pm
... If we are taking JRRT completely litterally, the first element in Khuzdul _ai_ is pronounced a little further back than the first element in English _eye_,...
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grizzly5@...
Feb 18, 1999 3:00 pm
Mae govannen! I have been studying quenya for quite some time right now, but one thing I never found, not in Ardalambion, nor in any other places, is this: How...
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Lisa Star
amlug@...
Feb 19, 1999 3:47 pm
grizzly5@... wrote: Mae govannen! I have been studying quenya for quite some time right now, but one thing I never found, not in Ardalambion, nor in...
