May I make one or two suggestions, not being totally sure of my ground, but having checked what I can. _lotarwë_ I'm not sure if this is the correct form...
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echoes_echoes_echoes
echoes_echoe...
Oct 16, 2006 7:52 am
Mae govannen all, I am hoping to undertake a serious study of Sindarin and would like to find some kind of "immersion" list or forum where Sindarin is ...
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Atwe
percival64
Oct 16, 2006 8:24 am
Hi, May I make one or two suggestions, not being totally sure of my ground, but having checked what I can. _lotarwë_ I'm not sure if this is the correct form...
33563
Atwe
percival64
Oct 16, 2006 8:47 am
Hi, since I also translated (a part of) this song a while ago it would not be fair from me to offer any comments since I'd be biased towards my solutions;...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Oct 16, 2006 6:27 pm
... Not a very strong argument as there is no big difference between say 'fourteen' and 'fourty' in pronounciation (in fact, I recently shocked a few people by...
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Beth Winegarner
echoes_echoe...
Oct 17, 2006 7:02 am
Mae govannen all, I am working through the SIndarin course by Thorsten Renk and this morning was studying part of section two, which focuses on the conjugation...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Oct 17, 2006 8:42 am
Mae govannen Beth, The answer to your question lies in a paragraph above the one with the examples: "If the subject of the sentence is mentioned explicity, a...
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michiru
michiru_benson
Oct 17, 2006 9:26 am
... wrote: [deleted...] ... person plural pronoun _mín_ "we" with the personless plural form of the verb _linna-_, i.e. _linnar_. ... mentioned, just as...
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Atwe
percival64
Oct 17, 2006 9:26 am
OK I concede; still that does not entirely exclude the possibility that those unglossed numerals were meant to represent 30, 40 etc. Maybe we will be wiser...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Oct 17, 2006 9:34 am
... The sentence is not translated, so how do you know it needs explaining? For all we know, it could mean '*To thee I sing I am Tinúviel'. Moreover, it is an...
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imabiah
Oct 17, 2006 1:11 pm
And if one were to speak these words, would the stress fall on the second syllable? I'm fairly certain that's the case in a three syllable word, but I'm not...
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Lakis Lalakis
elfiness
Oct 18, 2006 9:38 am
AFAIK Sindarin is only studied, not practiced...
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Evenstar
evenstar62
Oct 22, 2006 2:00 pm
Hello, What do you think about this attempt of translating "tradition"??? We thought about _oia_ = "everlasting" _car_ = "deed" _oiacar_ = "everlasting deed =...
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Susn Frances Edwards ...
frances_peac...
Oct 22, 2006 6:00 pm
Hi, Evenstar I can see what you've tried to do, and the words seem reasonable when you see them like this. The problem lies in a reader who sees the words in...
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roberthahl
Oct 22, 2006 7:38 pm
Well, I would say they are fairly readily explainable coinages, so I also say go for it. The only thing I must say is they are realy difficult for me to...
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Evenstar
evenstar62
Oct 22, 2006 8:09 pm
... *oiacar is built following the attested pattern _oiacúma_. But if you've another manner to render the idea of "tradition" or "honor", you're welcome. ...
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Beth Winegarner
echoes_echoe...
Oct 22, 2006 8:31 pm
... Yes, it does. Thanks so much for the explanation and examples! I am still relatively new to all of this, so I appreciate your patience. Cuio vae, Beth (Who...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Oct 22, 2006 8:41 pm
... Do you know any language which uses such compounds for these words? To me it appears to be too artificial and I'd try to propose something different. In...
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Bill Welden
williamwelden
Oct 22, 2006 9:42 pm
... In this regard, it is like Etruscan. :)...
33579
ramaroreo
Oct 22, 2006 10:28 pm
... Translating tradition with deed does not seem very plausible to me. A deed is an act and etymologically refers to the verb do. Tradition is however rather...
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hisilome
Oct 23, 2006 8:12 am
... The only thing I must say is they are realy ... <<< Well, you wouldn't have to. If one accepts the coinage, it would be pronounced "OIacar", anyway, with...
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Atwe
percival64
Oct 23, 2006 8:21 am
I agree with your deductions. These two attested roots give fine starting points. *térorie, would there be such a word, would rather mean to me...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Oct 24, 2006 2:16 pm
... Why not translate it from the Latin roots: "trans" "over", "across" - Q "ter" "dare" "give" - Q "anta-" Thus "terantie"; "passing over" (across time) ? ...
33583
Evenstar
evenstar62
Oct 25, 2006 3:19 pm
I love this idea to translate from Latin roots. I think it would be the easiest way to render such ideas... ...and I'm beginning to dream of such standards for...
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Evenstar
evenstar62
Oct 25, 2006 5:05 pm
Hi, Some times ago, we asked for the Elfling's help to translate a tatoo. The woman who made the tatoo sent a picture of it. (three hours of suffering to do...
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ramaroreo
Oct 25, 2006 10:13 pm
... We should rather speak of the etymology of a word, not every word has Latin roots, they can be OE, OF, OG or whatever else. The use of the etymology of a...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Oct 25, 2006 10:38 pm
... An extremely minor quibble, but words with OF roots do themselves, almost always, have Latin roots, as OF was derived more or less directly from Latin....
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Atwe
percival64
Oct 26, 2006 8:49 am
I do agree with you here. The beauty and genius of Tolkien's languages is that they very smartly incorporate elements and ideas from very different types of...
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Jason Fisher
visualweasel
Oct 26, 2006 3:11 pm
... And ... Most invented languagse (e.g., Esperanto) work like computer languages in this sense -- they're designed to be free of irregular forms, etc., so as...
33589
lindeliel
Oct 27, 2006 12:38 am
I love this idea to translate from Latin roots. I think it would be the easiest way to render such ideas... ...and I'm beginning to dream of such standards for...
