... Which, for me, raises the obvious question - 'Do we want to develop a fuller vocabulary?' In other words, could we not do with a language which lacks a...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 11, 2005 12:35 am
Deriving conclusions about Eldarin grammar is often complex and not a unique procedure, which is reflected in (often for that reason difficult to read)...
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rainalcar
Sep 11, 2005 5:08 am
feuya- Is it feu-ie or perhaps aia -> aiya; analogicly feuie ->feuwie -> feuvie or something else?...
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rainalcar
Sep 11, 2005 5:10 am
Can someone tell me how is this related to il-qua 'everything', ilquen 'everybody' and how to say 'no one'? Thx...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Sep 11, 2005 5:13 am
... I'd also advice you to print and read didier willis' dictionary. Not for learning words, but for checking each word's etymology fom OS. A single read wold...
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Vicente Velasco
rashbold
Sep 11, 2005 4:50 pm
... I would not use the -ie suffix too much to express the gerund, no matter if it is attested. For example, the gerund of the verb _car_ I would use the form...
32293
quildarener
Sep 11, 2005 5:19 pm
... _car_ I ... likewise ... I would suggest *feuyale for tbis particular verb. But if the idea of "loathing"; is not too far from your intended meaning there...
32294
quildarener
Sep 11, 2005 7:22 pm
... ilquen ... If you mean how they are related in the evolution of Quenya, munta is very early Quenya or Qenya from the Qenya Grammar, written about the same...
32295
quildarener
Sep 11, 2005 8:09 pm
With apologies to Alcarcalimo and the list, I would like to change ... <triangle_symbol@y...> ... see ... makes "mára ... Some might prefer Namaarie to Maara...
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quildarener
Sep 11, 2005 8:41 pm
After thinking it over for several days, I will belatedly eat some more crow and fully accept Thorsten's yanen for "the way/how" in the sentence "Melin yanen...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 11, 2005 11:02 pm
... Would you care to explain to us why? It seems to me that _-ie_ is a development going back to an infinitive/gerund formation in CE (for stem verbs that is)...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 11, 2005 11:24 pm
... I had every intention of doing so when I wrote the Rogue's Guide to Sindarin word reconstruction http://www.phy.duke.edu/~trenk/elvish/rogue.html - but I...
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rainalcar
Sep 12, 2005 2:09 am
Thanks Quildarener, so I had a good hunch about it (although I wasn't APSOLUTLY sure about it. Can you perhaps the form feuvie from quenya phonology?). But...
32300
rainalcar
Sep 12, 2005 2:10 am
Could you (or anyone else) perhaps be of help on the intensive form of adjectives in f-, v-...? There is my mail that I sent somewhere......
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rainalcar
Sep 12, 2005 2:10 am
Sorry, did not see your reply, things said to quildarener apply to you as well. ... From: "Vicente Velasco" <rashbold@...> [...] I would not use the -ie...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 12, 2005 11:53 am
... There is _antoryame_ 'strengthening' (VT39:9) < _*antorya-_ 'strengthen' < _an-_ intensive prefix + *TOR possible variant of TUR-. But that's the only...
32303
Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Sep 12, 2005 12:12 pm
... Except that at the present time a PhD in general linguistics at most universities would leave you rather ill-equipped WRT historical linguistics, while you...
32304
Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 12, 2005 3:37 pm
... Thanks, that is helpful. * Thorsten...
32305
quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 4:35 pm
... begin with ... could become ... more versed in Elvish phonology would answer it. (Perhaps one will now just for the pleasure of correcting me.) But so as...
32306
quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 4:41 pm
... about it. ... nouns)? I ... instance, is not "making" but "art"--and I would normally prefer -ie for a simple verbal noun ending, though *feuvie in...
32307
quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 4:44 pm
... For carme there is also the meaning "structure" in the term sundocarme, "base-structure," from Christopher Tolkien's introduction to the Etymologies....
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 12, 2005 4:54 pm
... Just wondering: Are there any other examples of "w" disappearing in pronunciation between s and o? It seems to me rather that "sword" is the exception...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 12, 2005 4:58 pm
... I don't think that is a different meaning. I understand "sundocarme" as "the making of the root". Lukas...
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quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 5:26 pm
... for ... prefer -ie ... still ... hard ... what it ... introduction ... understand "sundocarme" ... from the verbal root car- "make" and should literally...
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quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 5:37 pm
... mean "making." ... a general abstract sense and not of a physical object)and is therefore not equivalent at all to *carie"--which supports my point even...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 12, 2005 5:43 pm
... I absolutely agree. Lukas...
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LukᚠNovák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 12, 2005 6:03 pm
... Well: IMHO "carme" can denote both the process and the result; however the distinction between "carie" and "carme" stil holds - it can be compared to the...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Sep 12, 2005 9:25 pm
Thorsten Renk <trenk@...> wrote: Well, I can walk you through the essentials... Remember all these Sindarin mutation tables? That's what happens to...
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quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 9:54 pm
... made" (in ... I'll withdraw this particular claim. Carme here does seem to mean "making" in different senses rather than "that which is made." But my point...
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quildarener
Sep 12, 2005 11:55 pm
... form "swear.") ... is ... So it might seem, if we confine our examples to swo, of which few examples actually survive in modern English: swollen (w kept by...
