... One should note that all these 'ambiguities' are not in present Tolkien's work as such, they are introduced by the assumption that all conceptual stages...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 5, 2005 5:36 pm
You make quite a lot of words, and it seems to me that the essence of your argument is that the Elvish corpus is small, firm conclusions cannot be drawn, I...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Sep 7, 2005 1:36 am
To continue the debate about Sindarin verb forms, let me remind the Elflingers that one slightly controversial point has to do with the "simple A-stems", verbs...
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quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:02 pm
... (like ... not ... which ... is no ... more ... or I ... antecedant ... ómainen_ ... mára_ 'what you ... this ... true. It ... than ... This use of ya...
32261
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:08 pm
... available. As ... made ... believe ... because good ... words. I will try to keep that in mind. (I'm not sure if this is what you're referring to, but I...
32262
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:08 pm
... gives ... mai ... Given ... for ... for my ... Tolkien's ... conceptual ... MAYA ... body of ... apart. ... certainly ... absence of ... derived from ... ...
32263
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:10 pm
... (like ... not ... interrogative ... the most logical assumption. Hence I would prefer to reserve question words for actual questions in Quenya so as not to...
32264
Luthien
atyfiles
Sep 8, 2005 3:11 pm
Hi what about "snow wolf?" wolf: ráca or narmo? snow: lossë. lossenarmo?????...
32265
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:11 pm
... of your ... cannot be ... to ... cannot be ... discussion as ... you always reject specific examples of phrases/words drawn from the corpus as an example...
32266
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:11 pm
In an earlier post I wondered about alternatives to the QL mai/maye "too much." We could also say for the adverb *(acca *altave) = "too greatly" or *(acca...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 8, 2005 3:11 pm
I agree with much that Helge says, there is however, I think a problem with Helge's conclusion. ... I will state my basic argument in a nutshell here and...
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Roman Rausch
rausch_roman
Sep 8, 2005 3:12 pm
Dana mora! I don't know whether someone has already tried to do this, but I did. This is an attempt to translate the beginning of the Earendel poem from the...
32269
quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:13 pm
In discussing the "Qenya Lexicon" word "quetil" and observing that its -il suffix with abstract meaning was "later" used to denote personal and impersonal...
32270
Alcarcalimo
triangle_symbol
Sep 8, 2005 3:13 pm
Ok, thanks to Gildor now I know how to say "hello": Aiya. As all of us know, farewell is "Namárië", and I start to investigate more deeply in how could you...
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quildarener
Sep 8, 2005 3:14 pm
After saying I would have used QL mande for "well" if it weren't for mai "because there was no other word for it," I remembered QL vande = "well," from the...
32272
elhath *
elenyona
Sep 8, 2005 4:29 pm
... If we are talking about a name older than the Third Age (since the wolf-word you use comes from an NG-root), the end result might also be transcribed as ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 8, 2005 5:47 pm
... I would guess that this may come as a surprise, but after some thinking I find _quetil_ not at all implausible. First, note that the concept of an _-il_...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 9, 2005 2:42 am
... Hm... I guess I AM confusing here. So, let me try to be less confusing. What I oppose is the general notion 'Qenya words from the QL are as relevant for...
32275
quenarth
Sep 9, 2005 8:03 am
... us ... in ... Here's something that might help as you look at more 'farewells.' 'Goodbye' is the outcome of wearing down 'God be with ye.' It's not hard to...
32276
Atwe
percival64
Sep 9, 2005 8:04 am
... (and I would think ... favored QL mande ... which the QL gives ... Ardalambion's Quenya ... mentioning the VT mai ... sentence like mai ... Quenya too...
32277
quildarener
Sep 9, 2005 3:00 pm
My inexperience with Sindarin (and, I hope, no more) may be showing in these questions, but I would like to ask: 1) Can this Sindarin "mixed-conjugation"; type...
32278
rainalcar
Sep 9, 2005 5:02 pm
I was wandering, are there any clues that these adjectives that begin with vowels f-, v-, originate from older ph-, kh-? If so, ph-, kh- could become p-, k-...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Sep 10, 2005 1:21 am
I have been following the discussion of Quildarener and Thorsten, and I am of course flattered to notice that both seem to regard me as a generally good role...
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Arthur Boccaccio
elhanan_austin
Sep 10, 2005 2:47 pm
"Helge K. Fauskanger" <helge.fauskanger@...> wrote: We must realize that if we are ever to develop a fuller Neo-Quenya/Sindarin vocabulary, we should...
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quildarener
Sep 10, 2005 5:06 pm
... and I am ... generally ... he's the ONLY role model (that I'm aware of) for this question or Neo-Quenya in general. Not that I would follow him blindly or ...
32282
quildarener
Sep 10, 2005 5:39 pm
... As I've said, this depends on your approach to the material. Whoever wants to write/translate substantially in Quenya working from the available material...
32283
Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Sep 10, 2005 6:40 pm
... I suggest that you first read " Historical linguistics : an introduction" by Lyle Campbell, and then read the historical phonology chapter of David Salo's...
32284
quildarener
Sep 10, 2005 8:38 pm
... of us ... deeply in ... journey; that seems to me to just Anthony Appleyard's (plausible) interpretation of the attested translation "Good-bye," of which...
32285
quildarener
Sep 10, 2005 9:32 pm
... thinking I ... approximation ... not ... hence e.g. ... simplified, ... exists, ... vocalized, ... tegol_ ... rather ... melethril_ ... (LR:372) - ... ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 10, 2005 10:52 pm
... No, this corresponds to a different class of past tenses attested in Sindarin (cf. _ónen_ 'gave' and _agor_ 'made') quite distinct from 'mixed ...
