... [...] ... of QL mande as "well" for no other reason than that it was in the QL, hence my assumption (based on your "meoi" post(s)and statements ...
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quildarener
Sep 3, 2005 9:13 pm
... delight in this, I was simply puzzled by a statement that appeared to contradict Tolkien. ... pronounced as a labialized k. I misunderstood....
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 2, 2005 4:57 pm
... I assure you I present tentative conclusions as tentative conclusions, firm conclusions as firm conclusions and facts as facts wherever possible. In forum...
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Atwe
percival64
Sep 2, 2005 4:54 pm
Dear List, just a simple message to commemorate Professor Tolkien who passed away on this day 32 years ago. May he rest in peace. ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 2, 2005 4:53 pm
... You're just talking... No evidence at all for your position. No evidence that I place too much confidence in my ability, no evidence that I'm acting on...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 2, 2005 9:47 am
... It represents a "combination" (direct quote) of [k] and [w], not a cluster of [k] and [w]. That was my whole point, which you seemed to reject because you...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:49 am
... basis ... Thorsten's) ... (receiving no answer to the specific points raised above) ... sogon/segin? ... it." Here as elsewhere you distort, exaggerate and...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:47 am
I see no reason to question Tolkien's own specific statement in the Appendix on Languages that qu represents the sound cw--particularly if you accept LotR...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:46 am
... [...] ... for 'well' ... _, hence ... rather ... Or one might not. Here as elsewhere you place far too much confidence in your ability to differentiate...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:44 am
I think we need more than intuition and general statistical probability to determine the validity of any particular attested form, certainly in this case. What...
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rainalcar
Sep 2, 2005 7:44 am
Translating into quenya: Summary of quenya grammar from the Third age of ME My attempt: Sintanyarie quenya tengwesto tyelde Neldea randasse Endóreo - as far...
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Dave
hisilome
Sep 2, 2005 4:06 am
... [Indeed! While a) and b) are feasible for me, I find that I can only get close to producing c) when I reverse the process: first get tongue in velar ...
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Luká Novák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 1, 2005 8:21 pm
Melroch 'Aestan scripsit: Thanks for explanation! But still... ... I never doubted the existence of either velar+labial clusters or labialized velars - I just...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 1, 2005 5:33 pm
... Given _haimë_ from the Etymologies and and _lambë_ from really late sources I hardly see any reason to refer to the Qenya lexicon - as pretty evident...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Sep 1, 2005 1:16 pm
... And I can't pronounce a Czech Ĺ™ if my life depended on it, but that doesn't mean I doubt its existence! The problem with the term "labialized velar" is...
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Lukáš Novák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 1, 2005 11:11 am
... I have always been puzzled by the queer distinction generally made between "kw cluster" and "labialized k". No matter how hard I try, I cannot produce a...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 1, 2005 11:07 am
... Although it is true that we cannot say anything on the probability of an individual Qenya word being changed in Quenya, it is a statistical fact that most...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 1, 2005 10:52 am
... "Adunaic, like Avallonian [i.e. Quenya], does not tolerate more than a single basic consonant initially in any word..." (SD:417-418). "In Quenya, which...
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quildarener
Sep 1, 2005 4:27 am
... anything for 'hue' or 'peculiarity'... any ideas? ... To try to answer this long-neglected question: Another possibility might be to use E haime "habit" or...
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quildarener
Sep 1, 2005 4:27 am
... approximate Quenyarization and a pretty fair ... awkwardly ... these Some ... masculine ... It was precisely the association of Calyo with light that made...
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quildarener
Sep 1, 2005 4:26 am
... As some QL words were changed and others not in later Quenya, we cannot say whether any individual QL word with no later forms or different meaning was...
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quildarener
Sep 1, 2005 4:18 am
... <q> > to <qu>, but the pronunciation also changed from <q> marking a ... was evidently suggested by transcribed Gothic (reconstructing hypothetical words...
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Pernilla Leijonhufvud
perleij
Aug 31, 2005 8:58 am
... (First of all, I am still being moderated, so I apologize if this post appears long after the debate has moved on.) The thought I had, reading the above...
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Lydia Perez
alittlebaile...
Aug 31, 2005 8:57 am
Not gutter use...but certainly centuries old in their active use. As I am not claiming to be a grammatical expert, I am just speaking from my common language,...
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Gildor Inglorion
elfiness
Aug 31, 2005 8:56 am
... Aiya...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Aug 30, 2005 5:57 pm
It's been a while (and the gerund discussion slowed it all down) but back ... Yes, given the list below I would agree to that. The following list contains...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Aug 30, 2005 2:26 pm
... Okay. I'm not going to argue special usage now. You made your point that these things seem grammatical. Given the extreme rarity of use (~100 instances in...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 30, 2005 12:18 pm
... Qenya was the name of Tolkien's Finnish-inspired language before he changed it into Quenya. It was basically an ortographic change of <q> to <qu>, but the...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Aug 30, 2005 11:58 am
... It is _savar_ 'wild dog, jackal' (PE12:82). But as has come up in the discussings (*wink*), Qenya words like these are very, very likely to have been...
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Katie Bray
kitkat_1818
Aug 30, 2005 6:44 am
Hello again, Sorry for this error, but in the sentence near the bottom of my last post it seems my fingers continued typing while my brain was out to lunch. ;)...
