... "Adunaic, like Avallonian [i.e. Quenya], does not tolerate more than a single basic consonant initially in any word..." (SD:417-418). "In Quenya, which...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 1, 2005 11:07 am
... Although it is true that we cannot say anything on the probability of an individual Qenya word being changed in Quenya, it is a statistical fact that most...
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Lukáš Novák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 1, 2005 11:11 am
... I have always been puzzled by the queer distinction generally made between "kw cluster" and "labialized k". No matter how hard I try, I cannot produce a...
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Melroch 'Aestan
melroch
Sep 1, 2005 1:16 pm
... And I can't pronounce a Czech Ĺ™ if my life depended on it, but that doesn't mean I doubt its existence! The problem with the term "labialized velar" is...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 1, 2005 5:33 pm
... Given _haimë_ from the Etymologies and and _lambë_ from really late sources I hardly see any reason to refer to the Qenya lexicon - as pretty evident...
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Luká Novák
lukas.novak@...
Sep 1, 2005 8:21 pm
Melroch 'Aestan scripsit: Thanks for explanation! But still... ... I never doubted the existence of either velar+labial clusters or labialized velars - I just...
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Dave
hisilome
Sep 2, 2005 4:06 am
... [Indeed! While a) and b) are feasible for me, I find that I can only get close to producing c) when I reverse the process: first get tongue in velar ...
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rainalcar
Sep 2, 2005 7:44 am
Translating into quenya: Summary of quenya grammar from the Third age of ME My attempt: Sintanyarie quenya tengwesto tyelde Neldea randasse Endóreo - as far...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:44 am
I think we need more than intuition and general statistical probability to determine the validity of any particular attested form, certainly in this case. What...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:46 am
... [...] ... for 'well' ... _, hence ... rather ... Or one might not. Here as elsewhere you place far too much confidence in your ability to differentiate...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:47 am
I see no reason to question Tolkien's own specific statement in the Appendix on Languages that qu represents the sound cw--particularly if you accept LotR...
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quildarener
Sep 2, 2005 7:49 am
... basis ... Thorsten's) ... (receiving no answer to the specific points raised above) ... sogon/segin? ... it." Here as elsewhere you distort, exaggerate and...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 2, 2005 9:47 am
... It represents a "combination" (direct quote) of [k] and [w], not a cluster of [k] and [w]. That was my whole point, which you seemed to reject because you...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 2, 2005 4:53 pm
... You're just talking... No evidence at all for your position. No evidence that I place too much confidence in my ability, no evidence that I'm acting on...
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Atwe
percival64
Sep 2, 2005 4:54 pm
Dear List, just a simple message to commemorate Professor Tolkien who passed away on this day 32 years ago. May he rest in peace. ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 2, 2005 4:57 pm
... I assure you I present tentative conclusions as tentative conclusions, firm conclusions as firm conclusions and facts as facts wherever possible. In forum...
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quildarener
Sep 3, 2005 9:13 pm
... delight in this, I was simply puzzled by a statement that appeared to contradict Tolkien. ... pronounced as a labialized k. I misunderstood....
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quildarener
Sep 3, 2005 9:21 pm
... [...] ... of QL mande as "well" for no other reason than that it was in the QL, hence my assumption (based on your "meoi" post(s)and statements ...
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Petri Tikka
petristikka
Sep 4, 2005 2:23 pm
... I apoligize for reacting so harshly. I was frustrated for being misunderestood. I am sorry. ... What I and all of us have learned about discussing online:...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 4, 2005 4:31 pm
... Let's get our hands dirty with details, shall we? I could of course mention that the Qenya Lexicon was written 1915-1920, that 'Eldarin Hands, Fingers and...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 4, 2005 4:35 pm
I meant to reply to Bill's post a while ago, but I had to think about this carefully. I find the idea Bill suggests quite fascinating, to phrase it in my own ...
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Andrew D. Mason
mrshiftoz
Sep 4, 2005 4:41 pm
Hi Quildarener - So sorry it's taken me a while to get back to you, moved house and was without internet access for a whole month, absolute nightmare! Thanks...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 8:01 pm
... it ... Your reaction was quite understandable and it is I who apologize (again) for not having read your original post carefully enough. I just want you to...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 9:08 pm
... You're welcome, with the qualifier that the Et. Noldorin word puig I mentioned below has listed only the meanings mean "neat, tidy," without the "pure" of...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 9:11 pm
... language). ... late ... pretty ... changed, and ... relevance. My reason is that "lambe" (which I did consider) is too broad and misleading; its gloss is "...
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Jussi Hattara
jjhattara
Sep 4, 2005 9:57 pm
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 20:10:57 -0000, quildarener wrote ... Actually. In English how is either an (interrogative) adverbial, or a conjunction. In this sentence...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 11:37 pm
THORSTEN: , we find the classical ... QUILDARENER: On the other hand, based on which Sindarin texts can you confidently say that gerin would not be used ...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 11:39 pm
I apologize for taking so long to respond. I was caught up in debates with Thorsten and Petri and have limited computer time, and I too needed time to consider...
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quildarener
Sep 4, 2005 11:39 pm
... use ... statements ... and ... course ... that 'Eldarin Hands, ... shaped one' ... very ... there is ... which, ... _manimo_ 'holy soul' ... _Manwe_ (it ...
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Thorsten Renk
trenk@...
Sep 5, 2005 5:26 am
... I hate to be picky - but Quenya relative pronouns don't need an antecedant (a property only attested for _i_ though - _i karir quettar ómainen_ 'those who...
