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  • Category: Tolkien, J.R.R.
  • Founded: Sep 5, 1998
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Here's an odd topic I've been thinking on lately. Martin Bernal, in his controversial book BLACK ATHENA (Vol I, 1987), points out that roughly 50% to 60% of...
1 Jul 8, 2000
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John Rateliff
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Márë arilli (arineli) - hyviä huomenia // can I use ll insted of eli? I just wanted to introduce myself and ask some questions, since I just joined this...
2 Jul 8, 2000
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Someone recently asked what the Sindarin word for "gift" was. The Etymologies and Didier Wilis' excellent online Dictionary give 'ant'. Later i was told that...
1 Jul 8, 2000
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Hi, I'll introduce myslef since I'm new arounf here. I'm Mike from the US, and just decided to start learning quenya. I've already gathere a lot of online...
1 Jul 6, 2000
10:25 pm

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Hello again. I read Helge's article "Now we have all got elvish names", and I decided that I wanted to try too. My real name is Fidel (yes, like Castro), and I...
1 Jul 6, 2000
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Here is something from http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,222224a2202,FF.html Hollywood star Cate Blanchett found one thing tough while in Wellington ...
2 Jul 6, 2000
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Hello, Yesterday I found an old book of mine with an unsuccesful attempt to find out what the metre and rhytm of Namaarie is. I wrote it down, marked the long...
2 Jul 5, 2000
11:42 pm

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A while back (November) I posted the first page of a short quenya story to the net. It has now been joined by its pals, pages 2, 3, and 4, at the following...
1 Jul 5, 2000
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... Icelandic did, but nowadays the old long vowels have turned into diphthongs (so for example /a:/, written "á", has become /au/, but still spelt the same ...
1 Jul 5, 2000
11:42 pm

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Hello, Just a question: Has the "Kynjä translation" of Namaarie some sense in Finnish? Or it is just a demonstration how little fonetical changes are needed...
1 Jul 5, 2000
11:42 pm

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... Perhaps mostly re: the small amount I know about either language. :) So here it is: Ai! Laurije tantar lassi suhinen, jieni uunuottime pe raamar kaltaron!...
2 Jul 4, 2000
4:28 pm

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Greetings, Last night, instead of sleeping, I was wondering why some Quenya words have a "strange" plural form: _urco_ --> _urqui_, _telco_ --> _telqui_... ...
2 Jul 4, 2000
4:28 pm

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... I'd imagine that _parmatir_ is also equally likely to be "accountant&quot; if pushed into modern context. Or, possibly, even (*shudder*) "auditor" ... Well, if...
1 Jul 3, 2000
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... I feel highly concerned by this issue, as I have experienced further problems with Yahoo even after the intellectual property claim was withdrawn from...
1 Jul 2, 2000
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Didier Willis
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... Well, Sindarin has _gwaloth_, so olootie seems to match that nicely. Lootesse is already in existence as the Sindarin name of May. I was thinking of such...
1 Jul 2, 2000
9:17 pm

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... u-gernim: if this is based on "gar", then being lenited after u- it should be 'ernim nestad: I would used the true infinitive (rather than gerund) form,...
1 Jul 2, 2000
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... A few comments: Fast: is specifically tangled, shaggy hair; _find_ is a bit more general din: I'd use diin (with lengthened vowel) fuindaur: why reverse...
1 Jul 2, 2000
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In a message dated 6/19/00 7:37:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, profesorr@... writes: << I don't know the terminus in English -I mean the Greek and Roman...
5 Jul 2, 2000
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Well, I am not too well informed about the activities of Yahoo, so I cant judge what the danger is. However, if there shall be agreement that Elfling should ...
1 Jul 2, 2000
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Hello to everybody, I'm a Spanish boy who don't talk English too well, but I understand almost everything I read. :-) A friend of mine, Ozelin, told me about...
1 Jul 2, 2000
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... cite ... Well if we take darling Professor Tolkien general behaviour as an indicator. we must therefore suppose he "intellectually plagiarized" a large...
8 Jul 1, 2000
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Lukas Novak
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Greetings, all, I found out today that Yahoo is in the process of buying eGroups.com, the service that hosts Elfling. Those of you who have been here a while...
1 Jul 1, 2000
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... -rm- is very rare in Sindarin! Where it occurs, it either comes from: r+ an unlenited m in quasi-compounds (e.g. Or-menel = Aur Menel); or from rn+m (e.g....
3 Jun 30, 2000
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I forget the title of the work, but it was a book on Elvish, with a green cover. Like in the middle of the book. I lost it some years ago, so memory is serving...
5 Jun 30, 2000
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... The Goidelic languages are the Gaelic branch of the Celtic languages. (The other branch is called Brythonic or Brittanic or something in-between.) Matt...
1 Jun 30, 2000
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... **I guess _parmasse_ should be Q cognate of _parvas_, right? Please, can you, David, tell my why you chose the ending _-sse_ which derives abstracts, e.g....
1 Jun 30, 2000
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I've been trying to make a list of Sindarin titles and professions. Considering that my grasp of Sindarin is minimal at best, this is proving to be very...
4 Jun 29, 2000
12:39 am

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... Thank you - I have never heard of this book - in the CR it is not sold, although all the other volumes of HoME are available... One will have to wait, it ...
2 Jun 29, 2000
12:39 am

BP Jonsson
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... Found it. Francis Lodwick's "Universal Alphabet" of 1673. Described in pages 276 through 279 of Jim Allan's AN INTRODUCTION TO ELVISH (1978). The examples...
2 Jun 29, 2000
12:38 am

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... I know someone prior to Prof Tolkien did a ... While I know plenty of people have made up their own scripts before Tolkien (a "secret vice" of a different...
1 Jun 27, 2000
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