New update of Gwaith-i-Phethdain www.elvish.org/gwaith from November 1, 2002 - All Saints' Day: Boris Shapiro presents the most actual version of his Parma...
... I share your feeling: _-ya_ was usually lost in other derivations, both as a verbal suffix and as an adjectival one. Examples: _milya-_ (to long for) vs....
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Kirsten Eivor Bekkhus
Kirsten.E.Bekkhus@...
Nov 1, 2002 12:45 pm
Kai McTane and Mornon: Have you considered thinking of the context here?? It has been presented before, here it comes again: "Into the ray of the sun, march...
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 12:45 pm
From: "Kai MacTane" <kmactane@...> ... Valar and Maiar are both "subset" of the Ainur, so are of the same "kind" (Ainur in Middle-Earth), buth the...
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 12:46 pm
From: "Kai MacTane" <kmactane@...> ... It's also my guess: I think the second -tin- is the steam TIN, while the first is an augment; but I'm not sure...
... Maybe, but no one knows for sure. _hácala_ (MC:213) may be a participial construction from *_hac-_, but it may as well come from *_haca-_ or *_háca_. ......
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 12:47 pm
From: "elhath *" <sp12@...> ... VT39:10, if I'm right. Mornon....
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 12:47 pm
From: "david_robert_morton" <emorton10@...> ... I'm not sure about ?_ahyie_; I have never heard the cluster -yi- in Quenya. Maybe *_ahie_ or *_áhie_?...
... I wouldn't call that a counter-arguement. Having numerous exclamations with only slightly differing tones is not uncommon in natural languages. ... He is...
Am I right in translating "Thought and Memory" (Odin's "pet" ravens) as "Ósanwe ar Enyalien"?...
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elhath *
sp12@...
Nov 1, 2002 1:33 pm
... No, you're not. _Ósanwe_ means 'communication of though, telepathy' (lit. "co-thought") and Enyalien is a dative gerund 'for-remembering, in order to...
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elhath *
sp12@...
Nov 1, 2002 2:13 pm
In addition (concerning 'memory'), there seems to be at least a hypothetical stem *REN, based AFAIR on a Sindarin word? Which I'm unable to find in Didier...
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:29 pm
From: "Hans" <gentlebeldin@...> ... Why? Agreement only in number couldn't be right? Mornon....
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:29 pm
From: "Hans" <gentlebeldin@...> ... In MC:315 there is a version of Markirya, written in the last ten years of Tolkien's life, in whic there is...
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:29 pm
About _súrinen_ singular or plural... I knew the word as _súre (súri-)_ (MC:222?), and this would explain well why is _súrinen_ and not **_súrenen_. But,...
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Mornon
lucaemauro@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:29 pm
From: "Kirsten Eivor Bekkhus" <Kirsten.E.Bekkhus@...> ... Valar and Greek, Egypt, ecc. Gods have in common the "division" of powers (air, war, nature,...
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Eruesso .
eruesso18@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:30 pm
Are there words for "is, be,are" in Sindarin? I've read in many places that "be" is _aen_ but they all say that they aren't sure. And If "be" is _aen_ would...
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Eruesso .
eruesso18@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:48 pm
How would "Do you not know? Have you not heard?" look like in Sindarin? Do you not know? "do" _car-_ + "you" _le_ or _ch_= _carech_ or _car le_? Neither? ...
teithant "Eruesso ." ... aen seems like a particle denoting wishing or optative formulas (conditionals)... it might be related to Quenya na-, or not... however...
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elhath *
sp12@...
Nov 1, 2002 6:31 pm
... I would say _Ú-istach?_. _Ú-lastannech?_ 'Have you not heard? Did you not hear?' The negative _ú_ is used with a verb in Gilraen's linnod, so my ...
... Yup, this is exactly the context that I *had* considered, and that formed the basis for my recommendation. ... Actually, a parallel between Kron and Melkor...
... Understood. And I also doubt that he was modelling on Hungarian (though I wouldn't be too shocked to find evidence that he was); I was just following the...
... Point. ... The first exclamation of the Elves on seeing the stars is given in WJ as "_Ela!_", but in the Silmarillion appendix, it's given as "_Ele!_" (in...
Ok this subject is still annoying me, i have a better example now. In the sentance (basic sentance): 3 dead men Would the Quenya be: 3 deads men _nelde firini...
Aiya, ... I think, as _laiqua_ and _saira_ are in themselves the predicates here, one would simply answer with the predicate: Ma i alda laiqua? (if we accept...
I was browsing elm, and i came across the word section, and guess what i saw, the word for "computer" formed with "implement for reckoning", whats going on? ...
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elhath *
sp12@...
Nov 1, 2002 8:28 pm
... (The updated word would of course be _saila_..) ... "Green." Now that sounds awkward to *me*. ;) Maybe because in Finnish the 'to be' verb is used...
... that is, the number of words divided by the number of morphemes? has anyone bothered to get this index out of quenya? seere len, emilio_1987 aka Nathanieol...
... Yes, I think it should be. I don't think we have any examples of pluralized adjectives in _-in_ in the attested corpus, but we do have _laurea_ > _laurie_...
Aiya, a while ago I quoted from Corynthians 13., which gave me the idea to try and translate that section. It's tough, but I present the first 4 sentences now:...
