... The only book on the subject I am familiar with is _Optimality Theory_ by René Kager, Cambridge University Press, 1999. There are others, but I have not...
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johnq@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:19 am
candon clannach <lethgla-@...> wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/elfling/?start=1576 ... ____________________ George L. Campbell, in...
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John Quijada
johnq@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:19 am
Regarding the issue of the universality of the phonemes /p/, /t/, and /k/, you raise a good point regarding Australian phonology, specifically why the phonemic...
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David Barnhart
davidbarnhart@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:19 am
Only recently did I subscribe to this list, but it has quickly made the impression upon me that the Quenyan and Sindarin languages are, for the most part,...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:19 am
... plural of Q _tecil_ "pen" ought to be *_telci_ and not the "expected"; *_tecili_. He has, as far as I know, not told us this yet, but he must be reasoning...
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Rich Alderson
ALDERSON@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:19 am
... Which is, of course, ridiculous when considered from the viewpoint of modern phonological theories such as Natural Phonology (Stampe) or presumably...
1589
Dorothea Salo
dorothea@...
Nov 2, 1999 12:35 am
... Veering into the linguistic lunatic fringe, there is also the field of phonaesthetics -- what connotations do we give certain speech sounds? why do certain...
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Candon Clannach
lethglas@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:36 pm
... I've heard that book is good, but have not seen it. The book we used was _Optimality Theory: An Overview_ eds. Diana Archangeli and D. Terence Langendoen,...
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Candon Clannach
lethglas@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:36 pm
... Thanks for the information, Rich. It did seem unbelievable to me that all /a/ phonemes in the daughter languages could be derived from a combination of...
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C.J. Miller
mkinjubhy@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:36 pm
Although (unfortunately) I am not an expert on this, I believe that Entish is just a dragged out form of Quenya. On Ardalambion there isa nice page on this go...
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johnq@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:36 pm
... sounds? ... clusters? ... Count me in on the lunacy train. I wrote a paper on the phonaesthetics of Tolkien's languages for a Tolkien class at California...
1594
rfa82@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:36 pm
... the ... the ... enough ... it. ... we ... We know very little about Entish. We do, on the other hand, know a bit of the other languages. For more detailed...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:37 pm
... It is very difficult to answer this question with certainty, because so much of Tolkien's writing about his languages remains unpublished. But at a guess,...
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Brook Conner
nellardo@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:37 pm
... D'oh! Between Salo, Smith, Conner (that's me, and my father), Durand (owner of the conlang list), just too many David's : Brook ... % man: why did you get...
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Bjorn Fromen
Bjorn.Fromen@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:37 pm
... As both are adjectives (or at least translated as such), not names of instruments, the alternative seems more probable. ... Or from *_syatsa|la_, formed...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:38 pm
... with "your language goes here" in a variety of real and constructed languages] Cute... I trust Volapük will be represented? ... Hmm...I don't think we...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:38 pm
... a rather limited corpus - around 2000 words, I would guess without having counted them. Good guess. We have around 2,200 words if you exclude the early...
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Rich Alderson
ALDERSON@...
Nov 2, 1999 11:38 pm
... Szemer{\'e}nyi was very conservative, the last Neogrammarian in fact, who never accepted the laryngeal theory with all its consequences for the PIE vowel ...
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Clinton Moreland-Stri...
arachnis@...
Nov 4, 1999 12:13 am
Heya, I've begun working out my own details of when various changes happened, and stumbled across something, Anyone have any ideas? In ETYM, S. Afor < *abooro...
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Brook Conner
nellardo@...
Nov 4, 1999 12:13 am
[ cross-posting I know, but it's come up on elfling, too] ... That usage: "Sinome maruvan" - Helge Fauskanger cited this as another example of an attested...
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Brook Conner
nellardo@...
Nov 4, 1999 12:13 am
As I just got mail, and saw no one else had forwarded this, here's all the current details on the t-shirt being created on the conlang mailing list. Enjoy. hi,...
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Greg Dyke
g_dyke@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:31 am
BP Jonsson wrote ... Thanks, just what I thought. Greg ... ______________________________________________________...
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Brook Conner
nellardo@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:31 am
... Why does the "lambelya"; move between "nai" and "maruva"? I was under the impression that Quenya, while generally being SVO, was rather flexible about word...
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BP Jonsson
bpj@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:31 am
... I got a few fonts... Want me to create a graphic? Will be couple of days tho, since I'm home with my 19 months old son and a flu -- we both got it and...
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BP Jonsson
bpj@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:32 am
... [interesting info snipped] I must say that I'm relieved that one of the really reliable phonemic inventory universals seems to still hold water! ;-) The...
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Ales Bican
bican@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:32 am
... **Just a note: The mentioned sentence wasn't told by King Elessar, but by Elendil, when he landed in M-E. The whole two sentences Elendil said go like...
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Rysiek Derdziñski
maggot@...
Nov 5, 1999 3:32 am
Answering the message No. 1955. ... stuff, counting only material from the Etymologies or later, which is usually LotR-compatible. I have a wordlist with about...
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abrigon
abrigon@...
Nov 5, 1999 10:51 pm
Well, feel free to translate or not..
If anything doing translations can extend our knowledge of Quenya and
like..
Morgoth, old story, was my handle years...
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abrigon
abrigon@...
Nov 5, 1999 10:51 pm
Thank you Helge. But why wait to have others add new words, when you can
translate things, and see what gaps there are, and work towards filling
them, if...
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Irene A Gates
112321.3163@...
Nov 5, 1999 10:51 pm
... So it's an adverb of place, is it not? ... You can think of _Ro'mello_ 'from the East' as the ablative case of _Ro'men_ '(the) East', or as an adverb of...
