... Actually, there is no "Klingon alphabet". The symbols you see do not say anything, they were created by the graphic designer, not the linguist. They were...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 7, 1998 3:58 am
Tolkien's Elvish languages are, of course, properly spelled using the alphabets (e.g. cirth, tengwar, Rúmilian sarati and other alphabets which remain...
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psmc@...
Dec 7, 1998 1:08 pm
Ar Sun, 6 Dec 1998 21:56:27 -0600, scríobh tú: All: Sometime back I saw an article on the various world alphabets being encoded for Unicode. Among the...
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John Garth
john_garth@...
Dec 7, 1998 1:08 pm
Hello This is my first message on this list. I'm a sub-editor on the London Evening Standard but I have been interested in Tolkien's languages since before I'd...
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BP.Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 7, 1998 1:55 pm
At 21:56 6.12.1998 -0600, David Salo wrote: [snip] ... The same goes, of course, mutatio mutandis, for Sindarin, where he used _i_ for /j/. It seems strange,...
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Rich Alderson
ALDERSON@...
Dec 8, 1998 2:19 am
... The Etruscans used three letters to spell /k/: Before <I> and <E>, they used (grump--graphemes ought to be easier than this, <C> just won't do) < < > ...
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BP.Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 8, 1998 2:19 am
... The Unicode encoding of Tengwar is a bit deficient: it lacks some tehtar (e.g. the upside-down a-tehta used for English [ae] in at least one document...
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thestyl@...
Dec 8, 1998 2:29 am
hello! I am new here and I wish to learn all i can 'bout the elven tongue and really get into conversations. can ye help? send me an email if ye can.:)...
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thestyl@...
Dec 9, 1998 10:35 pm
Hello again. I guess I need to say that i need to tell you more of who I am. My Name is Ddectíl.(or thestyl for those who speak comman). I have a page I am...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 9, 1998 10:35 pm
John Garth wrote: Concerning the names Anaxartaron Onyalie/Anaxartamel/Of the Ents and the Eagles ... [ASCII is way underequipped to deal with the symbols...
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Matijas//fia noamale ...
hiasl@...
Dec 9, 1998 10:35 pm
... First Unicode isn't like Unicode there are various differnt encoding forms of it like UTF-8 , UTF-7 and a 16 bit code which uses Java and Word for Windows...
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B. Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 10, 1998 8:06 pm
ho de David Salo egraphe: [snip] ... I would rather NOT consider the Quesseteema consonants "double": they are plainly to be considered single labiovelar or...
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B. Philip Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 10, 1998 8:06 pm
... ^^^ This should have been _h_, of course X-( Both Danish and Swedish replaced _dh_ by _d_ in all cases, and nothing else! /BP ... See the original message...
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Stephen Rowland
Stephen_Rowland@...
Dec 10, 1998 8:06 pm
... [...] ... Hm. How about _Anaxartaron Onyalie_ = "Synopsis for _The Lord of the Rings_"? -- | "Of this two things are said,...
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BP.Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 10, 1998 8:06 pm
I just (re)discovered that Albanian has {dh} for voiced dental fricative. I doubt that influenced JRRT either way, although he may have known about it. A more...
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John Garth
john_garth@...
Dec 11, 1998 1:45 pm
David Salo rightly corrects me on a number of points, notably my failure to consider syncope, to remember Auleonnar in PM and to see that Anaxartaron would not...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 17, 1998 12:08 am
... I am basing my interpretation on the following information: In Appendix E, Tolkien wrote: "H standing alone with no other consonant has the sound of h in...
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jcb@...
Dec 17, 1998 4:27 pm
... I think you are both right and wrong here. I agree that three recognizable phones [h] [x] [ç] are involved; but I would expect medial [x] and [ç] to be...
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Helge K. Fauskanger
helge.fauskanger@...
Dec 17, 1998 4:27 pm
Andreas Johansson recently called to my attention what must be an error in Tolkien's discussion of the etymology of the element _aika_, _aeg_. In PM:347,...
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Didier Willis
dwillis@...
Dec 17, 1998 4:27 pm
First of all, this is my first post to this group. Regards to everyone and a private hello to the people I already know. In the Quenya corpus, several compound...
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Didier Willis
dwillis@...
Dec 17, 1998 4:27 pm
Regarding this topic, I was somewhat involved in the initial discussion mentioned by E. Kloczko, and I feel compelled to defend the theory that 'Onyalie...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 17, 1998 6:50 pm
... I think that the cognate would have been gaeg, not gaeag. In Sindarin, not all CVCVC roots failed to show the syncope to CVCC which is overwhelmingly...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 17, 1998 6:50 pm
... I think that in most of these cases, the explanation is historical. Final short -i became -e in Quenya, so *mori > more, *karni > carne. (This was...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 17, 1998 6:50 pm
... I agree that /x/ and /ç/ are supposed to be allophones; though they might as well be regarded as allophones of /k/ as of /x/; this is, anyway, their...
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Marcus Smith
smithma@...
Dec 17, 1998 7:35 pm
Didier Willis wrote: [snip] ... They are indeed all singular, even, I believe, 'carnimirie'. ... The presence of 'i' can be explained by examining the roots of...
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Didier Willis
dwillis@...
Dec 19, 1998 12:59 am
... Thanks for this clear explanation, which seems very probable. Is there any textual evidence of this process ? (I do not have all the books at hand...
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BP.Jonsson
bpj@...
Dec 19, 1998 12:59 am
... No argument here. I would classify them as three allophones of one phoneme, however. ... Oops. I was writing from memory and had forgot both this last...
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David Salo
dsalo@...
Dec 21, 1998 8:11 pm
... Well, The Etymologies (in The Lost Road) has such entries as "Q karne (*karani)", "Q varne (varni-)", "*mori black: Q more" "Q...ninqe white (*ninkwi)/". ...
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Erannon Elendil
grizzly5@...
Dec 27, 1998 8:35 pm
Denmark : karn(a)nor karne - red I think "den" or "dan" is the Danish word for "red" ... the name comes from a group of inhabitants that around 100 A.D. were ...
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Erannon Elendil
grizzly5@...
Dec 27, 1998 8:35 pm
Mae Govannen! My name is Mathias Hellsten, and I live in Stockholm, Sweden. 19 yrs old and a student of Society Politics at a union school. My interest was...
