No need to worry. Power is a tool towards Gliding. dzp

--- In electricPPG@yahoogroups.com, Joe Street <jstreet@...> wrote:
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> I Paraaz;
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> Please don't take the G out of PPG! There are many purists who scoff at
> the idea of adding power to a paraglider or hang glider. Mostly these
> are people lucky enough to live near mountains and can foot launch which
> is always the favorite way. However, even amongst the non purists or
> the purists who just live in the flat lands who are willing to strap a
> motor on the back still mostly it is regarded as only a means to get to
> the thermals. When I read your comment "going flying with no roundtrip
> requirement." I thought, there is always the requirement. There are many
> requirements. You already have an huge power source. It is the sun as
> you already know but the ultimate solar engine is the atmospheric
> updraft which scientist modeling has determined contains many kilowatts
> of power. The beauty of working these currents and going cross country
> entails a lot of skill planning good luck and also judgement but having
> power also gives options to return sometimes from what might have been
> an incomplete triangle or a straight downwinder. If you just want to
> plow through the air under power for the whole experience they you have
> just turned PPG into PPP and well you might as well go fly a cessna
> IMHO. So in that sense we already have all the power we need. The
> battery powered electrics are still a little out of reach costwise but
> technically they are pretty much already there as far as getting to the
> thermals.
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> I work with plasma every day and understand the situation from a
> technical perspective that you apparently lack. The attacks on you
> although unkind are not entirely without base. In order to gather the
> potentials you are interested in you must have a long wire and you must
> fly in the ionosphere. You already said you don't want an extension
> cord but you will need one of several km in length as well as a space
> suit.....
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> Try using nature's power source, with a little help from the engineers
> to get you to the domain where the thermals roam and you will smile all
> day long after your XC flight when you have played chess with mother nature.
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> tparaaz wrote:
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> > I'm certainly glad i stumbled onto your forum since one of my
> > projects involves replacing the powerplant, on my powered
> > paraglider, with something electric. I've been gearing up for that
> > for the last six years,
> > scrounging for parts and wings and things. The big issue, as you
> > well know, is weight, to keep it an ultralight. It looks like all i
> > need to do now is save my money, piece of cake,
> > the ultimate machine is just over the horizon. But i'm concerned
> > about it still not freeing me to totally fly, departing from the bonds
> > of humainty, going flying with no roundtrip requirement.
> > Working out the power thing, the purpose of my post, would sure
> > solve the battery and flight time issues. I thought that would come
> > under the catagory of interested in or creating, cus creating
> > something that stays up longer is what its all about, right?
> > While we're headed in that direction we should even push toward
> > more independence too, not dependent on the grid or the battery
> > supplier, sadly though, industries too often hold the consumers in a
> > dependent relationship and chose dependent technology. We won't be as
> > free as birds if we're dragging around extension cords and complex
> > battery systems, even a solar pannel is too much for me.
> > I really thought other pilots had the ultimate flying desire, and
> > would be interested in exploring all possibilities, i'm such a fool.
> > z-bird
> >
> > --- In electricPPG@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:electricPPG%40yahoogroups.com>, Lock Hughes <lockhughes@>
> > wrote:
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> > > --- On Thu, 4/2/09, paraaz <paraaz@> wrote:
> > > > I wasn't going to reply to this slam you delivered but
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > Any negative reaction to your first post on this subject might have
> > something to do with the purpose of this Yahoo group, which the home
> > page on Yahoo states as:
> > > "This moderated group is for communicating with others interested
> > in, or creating, electric powered paraglider capability."
> > >
> > > I am pretty sure there are some terrific sites and lists "out there"
> > for discussing open minded energy experiments etc... at least, ones
> > that do not have this narrow focus (ePPG)?
> > >
> > > Anywhooo, good luck and the gods bless!
> > >
> > > Tks
> > > Lock
> > > Toronto
> > >
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