Mr. Simmons wrote in part- Suppose you have 16 candidates to rank. You know how each of them stands on the four issues that you consider vital. ... D- Some...
DEMOREP1@...
Feb 1, 2001 8:47 am
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... The first, of course....
Bart Ingles
bartman@...
Feb 1, 2001 5:57 pm
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Yes, the first one. In relation to Borda, I remember an experiment we did in 1st year political science, where all the students voted on the same thing (I...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 2, 2001 12:22 am
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That's interesting. I wish we had more of these kinds of experiments with real live people to help educate our intuition....
Forest Simmons
fsimmons@...
Feb 2, 2001 1:15 am
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There's no reason we couldn't do something like that here, depending on how many subscribers we currently have (we could suppliment results using people we...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 2, 2001 2:31 am
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I don't know, I think strategy is an important part of any election situation....
Bart Ingles
bartman@...
Feb 2, 2001 4:18 am
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Yes, it is a tricky issue, and one that I've been thinking a bit about recently. Forest's example only really works if you assume sincere voting (as do any...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 2, 2001 4:43 am
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Just trying to catch up on my inbox -- this is a very old post which was apparently addressed to me, at least in part, and I apologize for not replying sooner....
Bart Ingles
bartman@...
Feb 2, 2001 8:58 am
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Craig wrote: There's no reason we couldn't do something like that here, depending on how many subscribers we currently have (we could suppliment results using...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 2, 2001 11:21 am
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Joe Weinstein wrote: (3) LWV ... circulates ... They have a website too. For a long time it had articles promoting IRV, but the IRVie-majority study-committee...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 2, 2001 11:50 am
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Thanks to Bart for repeating a posting of Joe Weinstein. I appreciate Joe's comments on terminology, especially that they should somehow reflect both ballot...
Forest Simmons
fsimmons@...
Feb 3, 2001 12:42 am
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Yesterday, in my reply to Joe about what to do about LWV's shameless IRV promotion to its members, I made a typo, because it was late. I meant to say that...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 3, 2001 4:16 am
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Another elimination method. Vote YES/NO on each choice and rank the choices using number votes- 1, 2, etc. Such votes can be combined, as has been mentioned on...
DEMOREP1@...
Feb 3, 2001 10:56 pm
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In this message, "Schulze" means BeatpathWinner, though I now realize that Markus's actual proposal is Beat-&-Tie-Path-Winner. I'm going to show that...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 4, 2001 3:18 am
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I'm going to show that the beatpath definition of the Schwartz set defines the same set as that defined by the unbeaten set definition of the Schwartz set, the...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 4, 2001 3:23 am
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I'd like to post these algorithm suggestions. The first is for calculating an array of beatpath strengths. The 2nd is for calculating the Smith set. I make no...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 4, 2001 4:14 am
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I start with a definition of the "Condorcet score" (see for example: "Equity, In Theory and Practice" , H. Peyton Young, Princeton University Press ) Given an...
Hugo Harth
hugo_harth@...
Feb 4, 2001 9:32 pm
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... As I understand it, IRV is a relatively new term, and is still almost unheard of outside the US. I was actually critisised in an essay I submitted for...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 4, 2001 10:51 pm
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It's occurred to me that the beatpath magnitude algorithm that I sent would, during each pass, look at some or all of the permutations of 3 candidates, taken...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 5, 2001 9:31 pm
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Dear Mike, beat-paths and Schwartz sets can be calculated by using the Dijkstra algorithm or the Floyd algorithm. ****** Input: d[X,Y] with X <> Y is the...
Markus Schulze
schulze@...
Feb 6, 2001 12:02 am
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Just a comment on the oppinions about Borda count: In Slovenia we use Borda system to elect two of our parliament representatives. They are elected in...
Jurij Toplak
jure.toplak@...
Feb 6, 2001 12:29 am
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Jurij, ... Could you clarify this for me? Are there two large districts covering the whole of Slovenia (or half of Slovenia each) where reps are elected using...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 6, 2001 12:55 am
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For those people who want to see implementations of some of these methods, I have written a program in Python (www.python.org) called VoteEngine. It is at...
Blake Cretney
bcretney@...
Feb 6, 2001 6:30 am
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... half ... Interesting. I wonder, though, what is meant by "nobody voted for Billy". Perhaps only one person voted for Billy as their favourite, but many...
Blake Cretney
bcretney@...
Feb 6, 2001 6:49 am
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... representation? ... Parliament is composed of 90 people. 88 of them are "normal reps" elected under PR over the whole territory of the country. The other...
Jurij Toplak
jure.toplak@...
Feb 6, 2001 10:00 am
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Mike Ossipoff, How is the Good Fight going against Irving and his Irvies??? Will you and your posse be able to `Head them off at the Pass'?? Ha Ha Don...
Donald E Davison
donald@...
Feb 6, 2001 5:25 pm
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... Yes, Don, it would be funny if it weren't so regrettable for electoral reform. By the way, what inspired this letter? I haven't written about IRVies in the...
MIKE OSSIPOFF
nkklrp@...
Feb 6, 2001 8:03 pm
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... And ... That's quite fascinating. I agree, a minority of two thousand out of two million citizens don't seem to deserve their own representative, but...
LAYTON Craig
Craig.LAYTON@...
Feb 6, 2001 11:06 pm
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... Well, yes, no and maybe. He would be what we might call the "Borda/Condorcet winner", i.e. the "Condorcet winner" based on the (very likely) insincere...
Forest Simmons
fsimmons@...
Feb 7, 2001 3:36 am
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... Yes, I did realise this after I posted that message. Borda has the unfortunate property of encouraging voters to put their preferred Lesser-Of-Two-Evils...
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