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Hello Mishall,

You ask,
>> am really interested to know and learn egyptian language....
would u tell me more about it?
is it arabic or some other language? <<

Egyptian language has two forms:

1 = Oral or spoken Egyptian language.
2 = Written Egyptian language.

I'll explain both in brief.

1 = Spoken Egyptian language:

1A = If we track AE graphemes, or written Hieroglyphic signs, we find that
they were extremely stable from far pre-dynastic times up to year 390 AD.
This means simply that spoken AE language was also stable during this long
period of time.

1B = Egyptian Copts preserved spoken Egyptian Language from being lost
during the period 330 BC up to now, by insisting to preserve their AE names
and everyday spoken language, such as:

3aziz - Ghali - Nakhlah - Mo7ib - Samir - Monir - Gameel - Magdi - Sam3an -
Fawzi - H'ilmi - Khaleel - Bushra - Labeeb - Wahba - Shakir - Milaad -
Amin - Ghlalib - Farag - H'abeeb, etc.

This means simply that:
Egyptian Spoken (oral) language has not changed since far pre-dynastic times
and up to now. Egyptian spoken language has gained many foreign words but
its main core has not changed.

1C = Arabic spoken language is only one part of wide Egyptian spoken
language. Any Egyptian can easily count hundreds of Egyptian words that have
no equivalent in classic Arabic. This what we call it 'colloquial' Egyptian
language or '3ammiyyah'.

I cast here one example only:
Egyptian peoples use an everyday negation word that has no equivalent in
classic Arabic, it is (sh) or (ma..sh).
For example:

The word (rou7 / rouh') which means (go) has no equivalent in classic
Arabic.
Egyptians say (ma - tro7- sh) = (matroh'sh),
which means (don't go).
You'll never find the word (troh'sh) or (matroh'sh) in classic Arabic !!

Likewise, there are hundreds of such words.

Conclusion:

[[ Current Egyptians speak exactly as their AE ancestors did ]]

2 = Written Egyptian language:

It is classified into 4 basic eras:

2A = from pre-dynastic times up to year 390 AD;
In this era Hieroglyphic line was mastering without any significant changes.

2B = from 330 BC up to year 390 AD, Greek line was used mainly in
Alexandria.

2C = from 390 - 700 AD, Coptic line was used. Coptic line is Geek line plus
7 Dimotic letters added to it. There were several trials to let Coptic line
replace AE Hieroglyphs but these trials failed because Coptic line does not
match phonetics of Egyptian spoken language and was deserted by Copts
themselves when they failed to write their spoken language.

For example, there is no Coptic letter that indicates phoneme (3), which is
equivalent to [D36] in Hieroglyphs. Therefore, one cannot write the Coptic
name (3aziz), for example, in Coptic line. He'd write it as (aziz), which is
a distorted sound. Then, how about thousands of such words?

2D = Arabic line is used from 700 AD up to now because it matches all
phonetics of oral Egyptian language without any exception.

Best Regards,

Ossama Alsaadawi








Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:06 pm

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