Wow! a.r.e. is going to have a field day with this one! http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/12/10/norway.ufo.light/index.html...
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zzoey75
Jan 11, 2010 9:07 pm
Hello all. This is my first post to eckankartruth, though I've been lurking and reading for quite a while. I'm ex-eck, like most here. Here is my...
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zzoey75
Jan 11, 2010 9:08 pm
Does anybody here know anything about Master Path? Thanks, zoey...
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formyd48
Jan 11, 2010 9:09 pm
I was an Eckist for 5 years. I lived in another state at the time. I guess I bought every book they published and I worked hard at helping the local center....
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formyd48
Jan 11, 2010 9:10 pm
I'm an ex Eckist. I have been looking for other ex Eckist groups. We all know what a terrible let down it is to find out the truth about Eckankar. I still...
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Sharon
brighttigress
Jan 11, 2010 9:21 pm
Hi Everyone! Hope everyone enjoyed the holidays! My apologies, I ended up being away from the computer for two weeks, instead of the few days it started out to...
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jonathanjohns96
Jan 12, 2010 5:19 am
Zoey, Ford Johnson discussed Michael Owens splinter group quite extensively: http://www.thetruth-seeker.com/michael_owens.aspx Ford is the author of the book...
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 12, 2010 5:23 pm
Why trade one culkt for another? ... From: zzoey75 <zzoey75@...> Subject: [eckankartruth] Master Path To: eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday,...
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Sharon
brighttigress
Jan 12, 2010 10:00 pm
... Janice, you said it all!! BTW, Master Path is Gary Olsen; Michael Owens is the self-proclaimed master, just checked out the website which has been redone...
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Sharon
brighttigress
Jan 12, 2010 10:29 pm
Hi Janice - Welcome, and thanks for sharing your story!! Even though you were only in for 5 years, I think in the beginning is when you're affected the most,...
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jonathanjohns96
Jan 12, 2010 10:38 pm
all, As Sharon has just pointed out on another message, there is both a Michael Owens and a Gary Owens, each started a religion similar to Eckankar. MasterPath...
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jonathanjohns96
Jan 12, 2010 10:54 pm
zoey, You asked for opinions about Gary Owens and the Master Path. I don't mind if people make offshoots of Eckankar. I'm not personally offended by it. If he...
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 13, 2010 5:09 pm
HI Sharon,  Well Sweetie, you said it yourself, during the time you were an Eckist, you had a busy life. So they never did get all of you. I think all of...
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jonathanjohns96
Jan 13, 2010 6:35 pm
I was a member of Eckankar for 29 years (1979-2008) (minus a 5 year sabbatical). I was a loner or independent person. I didn't waste a lot of money on it,...
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 13, 2010 10:12 pm
Thank You so much jonathanhohns96 for your response. I do appreciate it very much. You obviously are a very intelligent person who puts a great deal of...
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zzoey75
Jan 21, 2010 12:12 am
I found something interesting yesterday. I found a guy, who has his own sant mat group, who considers Darwin Gross to be his Master. So help me. That was a...
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zzoey75
Jan 21, 2010 12:15 am
I appreciate the thoughtful responses to my question concerning Master Path. Yes, there certainly are a lot of eckankar off-shoots out there. -- Here is...
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 21, 2010 9:40 pm
I don't think there is anything evil in the teachings but I do believe there is evil in any group that says you have to have a master to grow spiritually. ...
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zzoey75
Jan 22, 2010 12:16 am
Hey Janice. I have to smile when I read your message here. You are so very kind and genuine. - But I may have given the wrong impression with my questions....
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 22, 2010 5:44 am
Hi Ms. J. Thank you for your kind response. I am sorry if I misunderstood your inquiries. To learn about Sant Matt, I bet you can find stuff on line. If...
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zzoey75
Jan 22, 2010 8:44 pm
I had always believed that eckankar was some version of sant mat. But, recently I did some reading into scientology. (Again, just out of curiosity). I was...
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zzoey75
Jan 22, 2010 9:01 pm
I'll be very candid here. I've been reading Olsen's book (the master path guy). I find it quite interesting, and I probably agree with a good deal of it. He...
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JANICE FORMYDUVAL
formyd48
Jan 22, 2010 10:33 pm
Hi zzoey75, I think you have just the right attitude. I did find some stuff last night on line about Sant Mat. It is interesting reading and I think the...
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etznab@...
etznab18
Jan 23, 2010 3:26 am
http://santhakar.tripod.com/saints/bio-14.html ... From: JANICE FORMYDUVAL <formyd@...> To: eckankartruth@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2010...
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etznab@...
etznab18
Jan 23, 2010 3:44 am
OK. So that link is not working. Try this one. It worked the last time I checked. ...
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zzoey75
Jan 28, 2010 7:14 pm
I was never in eckankar. Can anyone here tell me how many initiations are possible? How many of those are inner, and how many outer? Thanks, zoey...
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harrisonferrel
Jan 30, 2010 9:14 pm
If you are a normal person, you can get about six initiations, but if you are a leader there is no end, but you can't get more than harold klemp, because he...
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prometheus_973
Jan 31, 2010 1:38 am
Hello Zoey, I can understand the confusion. Klemp likes to keep his flock off-balance and second guessing. Initiations are more mental (imaginary) than...
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avonblue1212
Feb 1, 2010 8:53 pm
Zoey and all, Actually, the first initiation is inner only. There is no formal outer procedure. The second initiation is requested after two years of study....
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zzoey75
Feb 1, 2010 9:08 pm
Thanks for this answer, Marie. I assume, going by your message, that members who don't attend eckankar functions don't get initiations. I mean, if they stay...
