A question that I have yet to have clearly explained to me is how Harold Klemp the leader/Living Eck Master/Mahanta is racked with so many human problems. ...
I can answer Alf's post in one simple sentence: HAROLD KLEMP IS A FRAUD. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 1, 2001 3:30 pm
I always wondered about this as well. Harold always seemed like such a weakly little guy. I can sure understand his fear of computers though.....If he spent...
... such a weakly little guy. ... Appearances can be deceiving...but in Harold's case, I'd say his "outer" weakness is an accurate manifestation of his "inner"...
Silly people, don't you realise Harold suffers because he takes on the suffering of all his chelas. Don't know if he ever claimed that, but both Paul and...
... Yes, I remember being told that at some time Twitchell had drunk a deadly poisen that almost killed him, but he did this because he was taking on the Karma...
... on the ... saved ... What ... Well it is a little clearer now that everyone's bullshit meter has pinned....I suppose, my kind of inquiry should be directed...
Alf, I don't know who you are, but don't ever stop writing on this exchange. I enjoy the laughs you provide. I find it interesting that out of the body travel,...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 1, 2001 10:56 pm
... Thanks. I like to make people laugh. The world needs it nowadays, more than ever. He who controls the mind controls the body. I guess I have a long way to...
... wrote: I have to go to the bathroom, my ass is in control. The problem is ... You've touched upon a great truth here, Al. Few individuals know the hidden...
... No, I do not know either of these guys. Are they still in schmeckankar? And, yes, I remember the very end of the 1950s and early 60s when, as a boy in...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 2, 2001 11:26 pm
... I remember Steve Brown of NJ, who was an Eckankar HI and also a Sunasu ED. We had dinner together once, at a Denny's I think it was, in the late 70s....
... was, ... brightest ... Hi Maha, Yeah, Steve taught a class at Middlesex County College in the mid-eighties. It was under the guise of some generic "Dreams:...
... <giggle> My elementary school was about a mile from an army base, and the teachers assured us that the depot would *definitely* be bombed, so it was...
Regarding twitchell drinking poison. This is right on par, because why shouldn't twitchell have claimed to do such a thing? It's stolen right out of the ...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 1, 2001 10:35 pm
Al, Good questions about mental health involving leaders of so-called spiritual organizations. Here's a description of paranoid schizophrenia from the DSM IV:...
... It's those darn pesky power flows, straight from Suggie to the Klempster! The normal human body can't handle them -- oh, except I just remembered a...
... No kidding??? He actually jumped??? ... Stuff ... Whoa.... ... Well, I just replied to (shoot, forgot his name) and he said that he soul travelled to a...
... Yep. He survived, though. It was one of those things like Abraham taking Isaac up on the mountain. Showing your willingness to die (or kill) for...
Regarding ... around... ... I strongly disagree with this. There is absolutely no proof that has been published to support this. Laboratory tests that I have...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 2, 2001 11:49 pm
Execkists may think something of this I just read on scientology while surfing the web... It seems some groups are really pissed off at scientology because...
Vic Shayne
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Nov 2, 2001 11:30 pm
I like the exEK seminar idea....especially if the eckists are doin their thang next door!....I'll wear an old raincoat and mutter incohesively...you...
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