From: "Brent Dicker" <Brent@...> ... Alas, never. (Barring a totalitarian regime which puts a stop to all technology advancement and dictates such...
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Brent Dicker
Brent@...
Oct 1, 2001 7:20 pm
Thanks again everyone for your input on my original message. The feedback provided has dramatically accelerated my learning curve. From: "Jim Drew"...
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 1, 2001 8:30 pm
... Then you are using the wrong program for your purposes. Perhap you want something more along the lines of a concordance program. It IS trivial to find the...
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 1, 2001 10:47 pm
... Since before the Internet, to be precise. ... Since before the Internet, to be precise. ... The majority of web pages come more than one or two at a time....
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 1, 2001 10:54 pm
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 noring@... wrote: [snip] ... If extraction were that easy, all those marked up files would already be available as plain text...
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 1, 2001 10:57 pm
... That's not enough. . .we should post them around the world, should we not. . .if you are willing to help. . . Thanks! So nice to hear from you! Michael S....
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 1, 2001 11:03 pm
... What occupation? Should I notify OSHA? ... Thus proving The Wright Brothers never DID fly!!! Right??? ... I will pass on your kind words! ... Yes, I have...
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Jim Drew
ciaopubs@...
Oct 1, 2001 11:13 pm
From: Michael Hart <hart@...> ... Your assuming that people see value in stripping the information relating to formatting and purpose and such...
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noring@...
Oct 2, 2001 12:19 am
... It *is* quite easy, either manually with a text editor, with a PERL script (antique unix tech), XSLT transformation, whatever, to extract a plain ASCII...
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Jim Drew
ciaopubs@...
Oct 2, 2001 12:37 am
From: noring@... ... All *new* text editors. There are people who are still in the Stone Age of computing and always will be. Non-UTF-8 text...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:21 am
... Indeed. Those interested might want to look at Robert Stockton's nice interpretation of the PG Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, at ...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:34 am
... How it got that way is interesting. Personally, I believe it was the Web, and Web browsers, that caused the various AppleTalk, Novell, and XNS protocols...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:47 am
... Huh? Palm, for instance, gives away a programming environment for PalmOS, in which you can write your own programs exactly as you do with Linux. See...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:55 am
... Better yet, store it as a web page, or pages, on a web site you rent from someone else who then has to do the job of updating it as the hardware/software...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:04 am
... They *are* posted around the world; that's the way the Web works. I see no need for further action on this. Bill...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:12 am
... Jon, let's be brutally frank here with Michael: They're not in text format because the text format is *less* useful than the marked up format. I never...
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richard seltzer
seltzer@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:22 am
<original message> From: "Bill Janssen" <bill@...> To: <ebook-community@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:12 PM Subject: Re:...
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Erik Walter
ebook@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:37 am
I'm sure I'm not the only one on the list who sees how backwards this is. Going from XML (a well documented meta-language) to plain text is trivial. Going...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:53 am
... Again, I urge you to look at the XML version of one of Jeff Kirvin's books at http://www.jeffkirvin.com/writingonyourpalm/recommends.htm. ... XML-formatted...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 2:59 am
... Actually, I think another reason people aren't going around stripping the XML versions of texts to produce plain-text versions is that most of the XML...
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Michael Hart
hart@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:51 am
... Is is really that much? I can't really read either of my Palm fonts without glasses. . . . ... I only wear glasses for reading. . .I HAVE prescription...
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aaron_d_g@...
Oct 2, 2001 5:35 am
I'm using Handstory to read doc files on my Clie 710C and it has a great large bold high res font. Better than anything I can get in a normal book. ... ...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 6:23 am
... Yes, it is. Overly rude. My apologies to the group for losing my grasp on the dispassionate mode of discourse which is much more appropriate for this...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 7:08 am
"OEBPS or XHTML XML documents should be rendered into markup-less ASCII before they are disseminated." Perhaps it's hard to understand or believe, but this...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 8:39 am
"Markup-free, or 'plain', ASCII is the best format in which to distribute/store ebooks." This is simply an idea that may have been true even as late as 1995, ...
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Bill Janssen
bill@...
Oct 2, 2001 8:43 am
... Actually, it's "•", not "•". Oops :-). Bill...
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Daniel P. B. Smith
dpbsmith@...
Oct 2, 2001 10:51 am
... What's your best estimate for the practical durability of what for want of a better word, I'll call "traditional analog" media? By _practical durability_ I...
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Pat Montague
patmontague@...
Oct 2, 2001 12:51 pm
Bill Janssen wrote, in part, "And OEBPS, though still a tad presentational for my taste, allows many of the semantic elements of the book to be added into the...
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russotto@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:14 pm
... could ... if ... Not sure about 7-track, but 9-track machines are still available. That's probably the oldest practically surviving digital format. CDs...
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Brent Dicker
Brent@...
Oct 2, 2001 1:18 pm
... Bill, you have presented a good argument for your case. But, being a closet skeptic, I have to see it in action and practice. Can you recommend a good...
