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Re: [eac] Celine Dion and Natalie Umbruglia CDs

Comblen@... a écrit :

> Does this mean that with a good/any/most PC CD players (or burners, known
for
> a better quality in extraction) with a digital output, this would work too ?

It will work with good CD ROMs, that can load and play the CD. But these ones
are likely to be able to extract it anyway, so why bother with the digital
output in this case ?
It could be useful if the drive can bypass the false TOC/Multisession/Wrong
sync markers protection, but still extracts with clicks (EFM protection), in
that case, play the CD in analogue mode (Windows CD Player), and record it in
a sound editor via the digital input of the soundcard.

With an external hifi player, it will work more often (but some hifi players
can't read some protected CDs).

But in this case, to get a good copy, you must use a soundcard that is able
to sync its clock on the digital input. Creative and Hercules soundcards
can't do that. They perform an "asynchronous sample rate conversion" at the
digital input, that spoil the sound quality.
You must use a soundcard like the Maudio audiophile, Midiman Delta, Terratec
EWX / 6fire, Marian Marc, Echo Mia, Hontech DSP etc
In they setting, switch the digital playback clock from "internal" to
"digital input" in order to get a faithful copy of the digital input.

Pio2001
26 m France



Sun Apr 7, 2002 12:57 pm

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Has anyone been able to successfully rip either of these cd's using EAC? If so, could you please give the correct procedure for using EAC? Thanks...
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Hello montreal6, ... Natalie Imbruglia was no problem. I have explained my experience in the message <mid:1312918115.20020307180443@...> (Subj: ...
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... This is not a matter of software but a strictly hardware related thing. The new Celine Dion is only extractable using a Plextor drive. Seems that Sony has...
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... 4-pin coax. digital input? What is that? The only quasi-standard internal digital audio connection is 2-pin header. The 4-pin one is analogue....
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Which one of Natalie Imbruglia?I ripped both of them without problem. ... From: eac@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 07, 2002 03:43:26 To:...
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Hello Elf, ... White Lilies Island (later they released unprotected version) -- Jernej Simoncic, jernej.simoncic@... http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/...
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... ªº¶l¥ó¤º®e¡G> Hello Elf, ... Oic,mine of white Lilies Island is in Asian version,which has a Chinese cover.I don't know if the origianl/English...
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Hallo Heinz ... Do you mean Ultraplex reader or a writer? if a writer, which model? Thanx Tschues A D L...
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... Two users in Germany reported success with both the 40x SCSI cd-drive (reader) and the new 40x IDE writer from Plextor. There is also one report using...
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... http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hot_topics/articledisplay.asp?ArticleID=105 Pio2001 26 m france...
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Oh thanks.How did you find the article?Pls tell me,thanks. ... http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/hot_topics/articledisplay.asp?ArticleID=105 ... ...
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Hi Heinz, Good news, thanks. Does this mean that with a good/any/most PC CD players (or burners, known for a better quality in extraction) with a digital...
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... No. You have to play the copy protected cd on a hifi cd-player and connect it to the digital in of your soundcard (if it has one). -- # Heinz Diehl, 68259...
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... Allegedly there is a copy-protection scheme that would prevent even that....
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... That's also on the Celine Dion CD, which contains key2audio from Sony. Using that copy protection, Sony also sets the Copybit on the CD so that no digital...
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Hello raywee101, ... The only working copy protection would be, that they wouldn't put anything at all on the media. Because, if it plays, it can be copied. ...
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... No - I take it for granted that SCMS is not a problem, if it were a solution, they would have used it more actively a long time ago. What I read was a...
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... for ... It will work with good CD ROMs, that can load and play the CD. But these ones are likely to be able to extract it anyway, so why bother with the...
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... How did I find it ? The link was posted in one of the forums I'm used to browse (r3mix.net, HydrogenAudio, EAC, Afterdawn, George Massenburg, ...
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... That seems unlikely. I've never heard of a difference between the SPDIF PCM data and the data internally used for the analog output. Pio2001 26 m France...
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... As I've said - I read the article that was rather convincing from the technical side, and I have no direct knowledge of the technology....
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