Please remove my email address from your database.
Thank you.

There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
Spot.

Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
whole web page, he is fine with it.

73
Neal k3nc

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
> subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
> current.
>
> You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
>>Hi Alex,
>>
>>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
>>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
>>has much bigger value, to bad.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Robert PE1CWU
>>
>>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Robert,
>> >
>> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
>> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
>> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
>>exactly
>> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
>> >
>> > 73 Alex VE3NEA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
>> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Dan
>> >
>> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
>> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
>> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
>> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
>> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
>> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
>> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
>> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
>> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
>> > to date database this way.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Robert
>> > >
>> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
>> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
>> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
>> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
>> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
>> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
>> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
>> > >
>> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
>> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
>> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
>> > them further their education.
>> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
>> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
>> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
>> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
>> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
>> > satellite tracking.
>> > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
>> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
>> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
>> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
>> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
>> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
>> > selectors on TVs.
>> > >
>> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards
>> > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > ===============================
>> > > NOBSKA
>> > > www.nobska.net
>> > > ===============================
>> > > Cape Cod Instruments
>> > > www.oceanbiz.net
>> > > ===============================
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: rdvrey
>> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
>>like to
>> > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
>> > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
>> > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
>> > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
>> > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
>> > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
>> > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
>> > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
>>logbook
>> > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
>> > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
>> > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
>> > >
>> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
>> > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
>>DXPeditions in
>> > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
>> > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
>> > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
>>trying
>> > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
>> > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
>> > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
>>tuning for
>> > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
>> > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
>> > > other accessories offset from the radio.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
>> > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
>> > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
>>maybe
>> > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
>>you.
>> > > >
>> > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
>>is the
>> > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
>> > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards
>> > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > NOBSKA
>> > > > www.nobska.net
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > Cape Cod Instruments
>> > > > www.oceanbiz.net
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
>> > mouse its
>> > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
>> > rig is
>> > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
>> > the PC
>> > > > too.
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
>> > after I
>> > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
>>with a
>> > > > digital adjustment in the software.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
>> > > clicking on
>> > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
>> > frequency and
>> > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
>> > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
>> > into the
>> > > > > New QSO window of the log.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
>>worked, BM
>> > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
>> > > logged, then
>> > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
>> > country,
>> > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
>>underlined.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
>>it has
>> > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
>> > a lot
>> > > > > of searching.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
>><dan-schaaf@>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
>> > > > Bandmaster.
>> > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
>> > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
>> > > i am
>> > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 73,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
>> > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
>> > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 73,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Robert
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
>>steps,
>> > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 73,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Robert
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>



--
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Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
(540) 242 0911
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Good day,

Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category?  It just
pulls up the name and address details, no ads.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


| There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
| realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
| exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
| Spot.
|
| Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
| website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
| do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
| whole web page, he is fine with it.
|
| 73
| Neal k3nc

Something just dawned on me - I'm guessing that you are using Skimmer in
either 3-KHz radio or SDR-IF mode.  I want to use it with a standalone
SoftRock.  In this mode, I'd like to be able to click on the Skimmer
waterfall and have my radio go to that frequency, whatever it is, but it
appears to me that OmniRig is not active in Softrock mode.

73, Pete

At 02:24 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote:
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Toir.  Unfortunately, I am so committed to USB and the MK2R+
>here
> > that it will be really awkward to do otherwise.  I suspect that
>using this
> > software with the virtual serial ports created by the MicroHam drivers
> > might be asking too much.
> >
>
>Well, give it a try anyway. If port sharing is working with USB/serial
>converters, I suspect microham virtual serial ports aren't that different.
>
>Tor
>N4OGW
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Well, I have it going, and it seems to work FB.  Many thanks for the
info.  Alas alas, as I should have realized, it is not useful for what I
want to do, which is to click on a trace in Skimmer and have it move my
radio to that frequency.  The problem is that I am using a standalone fixed
frequency SoftRock, and in that mode Omnirig is not active, for obvious
reasons.  I think I'll ask Alex if something might be worked out to have
Omnirig active only in "Skimmer sends to radio" mode, to enable the
clicking without having Skimmer try to follow my radio.

73, Pete

At 02:24 PM 7/3/2008, you wrote:
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Toir.  Unfortunately, I am so committed to USB and the MK2R+
>here
> > that it will be really awkward to do otherwise.  I suspect that
>using this
> > software with the virtual serial ports created by the MicroHam drivers
> > might be asking too much.
> >
>
>Well, give it a try anyway. If port sharing is working with USB/serial
>converters, I suspect microham virtual serial ports aren't that different.
>
>Tor
>N4OGW
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Unless you have a subscription with QRZ Online or the author has some
special deal with Fred I suspect that there is a problem.

Neal

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris@...> wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just
> pulls up the name and address details, no ads.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
> To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
> | There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
> | realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
> | exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
> | Spot.
> |
> | Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
> | website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
> | do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
> | whole web page, he is fine with it.
> |
> | 73
> | Neal k3nc
>
>



--
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
(540) 242 0911
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99
-------------------------------------------------
For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com
-------------------------------------------------
See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in
action at www.flex-videos.com

Pete - I'm running my Softrock/CW Skimmer setup in IF mode as you
suspected.  This let's me use the system on all bands by simply
changing band on the rig (I can also change band from N1MM [or
HRD]).  When I change bands the Softrock/CW Skimmer system follows.
The QRG is picked up from the rig CAT and passed to both
applications to maintain full rig/CW Skimmer/N1MM frequency sync.
73 de Barry GM3YEH

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I have it going, and it seems to work FB.  Many thanks for
the
> info.  Alas alas, as I should have realized, it is not useful for
what I
> want to do, which is to click on a trace in Skimmer and have it
move my
> radio to that frequency.  The problem is that I am using a
standalone fixed
> frequency SoftRock, and in that mode Omnirig is not active, for
obvious
> reasons.  I think I'll ask Alex if something might be worked out
to have
> Omnirig active only in "Skimmer sends to radio" mode, to enable
the
> clicking without having Skimmer try to follow my radio.
>
> 73, Pete

Barry, what is involved in modifying Softrock as an IF feature with your
rig. I'd like to do this eventually but have not really seen what the
mods are for it. I currently have the 40 meter Softrock Lite which is
just about to get the first smoke test. I think that unit is modifiable
to use in the IF mode. Thanks for any info or URL you might have with
this info.

Bruce, K2BET
------------------

Barry GM3YEH wrote:
>
> Pete - I'm running my Softrock/CW Skimmer setup in IF mode as you
> suspected. This let's me use the system on all bands by simply
> changing band on the rig (I can also change band from N1MM [or
> HRD]). When I change bands the Softrock/CW Skimmer system follows.
> The QRG is picked up from the rig CAT and passed to both
> applications to maintain full rig/CW Skimmer/N1MM frequency sync.
> 73 de Barry GM3YEH
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have it going, and it seems to work FB. Many thanks for
> the
> > info. Alas alas, as I should have realized, it is not useful for
> what I
> > want to do, which is to click on a trace in Skimmer and have it
> move my
> > radio to that frequency. The problem is that I am using a
> standalone fixed
> > frequency SoftRock, and in that mode Omnirig is not active, for
> obvious
> > reasons. I think I'll ask Alex if something might be worked out
> to have
> > Omnirig active only in "Skimmer sends to radio" mode, to enable
> the
> > clicking without having Skimmer try to follow my radio.
> >
> > 73, Pete
>
>
>
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I thought readers of this group might be interested in my experience with
the free Virtual Serial Port Emulator by www.eterlogic.com .  As an
experiment yesterday, I downloaded it and used it to connect N1MM Logger
and CW Skimmer (using OmniRig) to my FT-1000MP Mk5 through the Microham
MK2R+.  You set up a special multi-user virtual serial port in the
emulator, tell both programs to connect to it, and tell the emulator to
connect to the relevant radio port on the MK2R+.

Using this port splitter, I was able to command the Mk5 to a frequency from
either Skimmer or N1MM. with Skimmer in either 3-KHz or SR-IF mode. Both
programs properly tracked frequency changes from the transceiver.  During
my test period(approximately an hour), both application programs continued
to run without incident. Setup was simple and reasonably intuitive, though
the idea of telling both programs to connect to the same virtual serial
port seemed like a sure loser at first

I have no idea how the emulator does its job, particularly two-way - it
seems to know which query came from which program, and routes the responses
appropriately.  Both of these programs poll for radio status, so there are
a lot of queries and responses going back and forth, not in sync.   Some
have speculated that the very low data rate of the Mk5 might be
responsible, and that some faster radios might not work so nicely.  It's
also certainly possible that different application programs might give
different results. Nevertheless....


73, Pete N4ZR

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rt_tclay" <rt_clay@...> wrote:

> I'm still hoping the bandwidth in Softrock-IF mode will get opened up
> :) I recently installed a 192KHz capable sound card, but still only
> ~20 KHz in IF mode.

Me too but Alex told me this is unlikely to happen.  BTW I believe
it's actually 24 kHz in Softrock-IF.  Although that BW is not visible
on the waterfall I believe Skimmer still captures calls over the 24
khz span.

What you guys have discussing (virtual COM ports) is also being done
by N8LP as LP-Bridge (about 1/4 page down from top):

http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html

"Here is the first cut at the LP-Bridge program. It will do several
things. 1) It will provide a method of allowing several applications
to simultaneously share bidirectional communications with the K3 by
creating virtual ports for the other applications to connect to... 2)
It will provide a means to obtain offset data from the K3, and pass it
along to WU2X's IF Stage version of PowerSDR... 3) It provides a
convenient way to implement point-and-click tuning from PowerSDR /IF
Stage by providing an extensive direct DDE interface to PowerSDR. Here
are some reduced size screen grabs. Views are normal, normal with K3
status and setup / diagnostic view."

73,  Bill

Hi Bruce,
It's pretty straightforward to do the IF tap.  The 2nd IF of my old
IC751A is at 9010.6 kHz on CW so I got a 30m v6.2 Softrock from Tony
and replaced the supplied xtal for a cheap 12 MHz one to get the SR
down a bit.  No other mods were made to the SR. I tapped the 2nd IF
and initially fed it to the SR via a simple potential
divider/capacitor gain control.  I now have a Clifton Labs Z10000 as
a buffer.  If you need some more details then please contact me by
direct e-mail and I'll let you know anything else that might help.
73 de Barry GM3YEH

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Tanner <bet110@...>
wrote:
>
> Barry, what is involved in modifying Softrock as an IF feature
with your
> rig. I'd like to do this eventually but have not really seen what
the
> mods are for it. I currently have the 40 meter Softrock Lite which
is
> just about to get the first smoke test. I think that unit is
modifiable
> to use in the IF mode. Thanks for any info or URL you might have
with
> this info.
>
> Bruce, K2BET
> ------------------
>
> Barry GM3YEH wrote:
> >
> > Pete - I'm running my Softrock/CW Skimmer setup in IF mode as you
> > suspected. This let's me use the system on all bands by simply
> > changing band on the rig (I can also change band from N1MM [or
> > HRD]). When I change bands the Softrock/CW Skimmer system
follows.
> > The QRG is picked up from the rig CAT and passed to both
> > applications to maintain full rig/CW Skimmer/N1MM frequency sync.
> > 73 de Barry GM3YEH
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>, Pete Smith <n4zr@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I have it going, and it seems to work FB. Many thanks for
> > the
> > > info. Alas alas, as I should have realized, it is not useful
for
> > what I
> > > want to do, which is to click on a trace in Skimmer and have it
> > move my
> > > radio to that frequency. The problem is that I am using a
> > standalone fixed
> > > frequency SoftRock, and in that mode Omnirig is not active, for
> > obvious
> > > reasons. I think I'll ask Alex if something might be worked out
> > to have
> > > Omnirig active only in "Skimmer sends to radio" mode, to enable
> > the
> > > clicking without having Skimmer try to follow my radio.
> > >
> > > 73, Pete
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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>

I can confirm Pete's findings.  Identical conclusions here with
IC751A - so if you need this kind of setup then this method is worth
a try.  I've been using the Eterlogic utility for about a month for
DX and contest work.  It has been completely stable.
Barry GM3YEH.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
>
> I thought readers of this group might be interested in my
experience with
> the free Virtual Serial Port Emulator by www.eterlogic.com .  As
an
> experiment yesterday, I downloaded it and used it to connect N1MM
Logger
> and CW Skimmer (using OmniRig) to my FT-1000MP Mk5 through the
Microham
> MK2R+.  You set up a special multi-user virtual serial port in the
> emulator, tell both programs to connect to it, and tell the
emulator to
> connect to the relevant radio port on the MK2R+.
>
> Using this port splitter, I was able to command the Mk5 to a
frequency from
> either Skimmer or N1MM. with Skimmer in either 3-KHz or SR-IF
mode. Both
> programs properly tracked frequency changes from the transceiver.
During
> my test period(approximately an hour), both application programs
continued
> to run without incident. Setup was simple and reasonably
intuitive, though
> the idea of telling both programs to connect to the same virtual
serial
> port seemed like a sure loser at first
>
> I have no idea how the emulator does its job, particularly two-
way - it
> seems to know which query came from which program, and routes the
responses
> appropriately.  Both of these programs poll for radio status, so
there are
> a lot of queries and responses going back and forth, not in
sync.   Some
> have speculated that the very low data rate of the Mk5 might be
> responsible, and that some faster radios might not work so
nicely.  It's
> also certainly possible that different application programs might
give
> different results. Nevertheless....
>
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>

Thank for the info.  Are  you or anyone familiar with the hook up
possibilities using an IC-756 Pro II or the IC-7000?

Bruce
-------

Barry GM3YEH wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce,
> It's pretty straightforward to do the IF tap. The 2nd IF of my old
> IC751A is at 9010.6 kHz on CW so I got a 30m v6.2 Softrock from Tony
> and replaced the supplied xtal for a cheap 12 MHz one to get the SR
> down a bit. No other mods were made to the SR. I tapped the 2nd IF
> and initially fed it to the SR via a simple potential
> divider/capacitor gain control. I now have a Clifton Labs Z10000 as
> a buffer. If you need some more details then please contact me by
> direct e-mail and I'll let you know anything else that might help.
> 73 de Barry GM3YEH
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>, Bruce Tanner <bet110@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Barry, what is involved in modifying Softrock as an IF feature
> with your
> > rig. I'd like to do this eventually but have not really seen what
> the
> > mods are for it. I currently have the 40 meter Softrock Lite which
> is
> > just about to get the first smoke test. I think that unit is
> modifiable
> > to use in the IF mode. Thanks for any info or URL you might have
> with
> > this info.
> >
> > Bruce, K2BET
> > ------------------
> >
> > Barry GM3YEH wrote:
> > >
> > > Pete - I'm running my Softrock/CW Skimmer setup in IF mode as you
> > > suspected. This let's me use the system on all bands by simply
> > > changing band on the rig (I can also change band from N1MM [or
> > > HRD]). When I change bands the Softrock/CW Skimmer system
> follows.
> > > The QRG is picked up from the rig CAT and passed to both
> > > applications to maintain full rig/CW Skimmer/N1MM frequency sync.
> > > 73 de Barry GM3YEH
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>, Pete Smith <n4zr@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I have it going, and it seems to work FB. Many thanks for
> > > the
> > > > info. Alas alas, as I should have realized, it is not useful
> for
> > > what I
> > > > want to do, which is to click on a trace in Skimmer and have it
> > > move my
> > > > radio to that frequency. The problem is that I am using a
> > > standalone fixed
> > > > frequency SoftRock, and in that mode Omnirig is not active, for
> > > obvious
> > > > reasons. I think I'll ask Alex if something might be worked out
> > > to have
> > > > Omnirig active only in "Skimmer sends to radio" mode, to enable
> > > the
> > > > clicking without having Skimmer try to follow my radio.
> > > >
> > > > 73, Pete
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> >
>
>
>
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>
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Fine for owners of K3s, but the eterlogic software has the advantage of
being generic.  N8LP and his colleagues do great work - not knocking them
in the least, but I wouldn't want to have to support LP-Bridge in other
applications.

73, Pete


At 01:55 PM 7/5/2008, bill_w4zv wrote:
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rt_tclay" <rt_clay@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm still hoping the bandwidth in Softrock-IF mode will get opened up
> > :) I recently installed a 192KHz capable sound card, but still only
> > ~20 KHz in IF mode.
>
>Me too but Alex told me this is unlikely to happen.  BTW I believe
>it's actually 24 kHz in Softrock-IF.  Although that BW is not visible
>on the waterfall I believe Skimmer still captures calls over the 24
>khz span.
>
>What you guys have discussing (virtual COM ports) is also being done
>by N8LP as LP-Bridge (about 1/4 page down from top):
>
>http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html
>
>"Here is the first cut at the LP-Bridge program. It will do several
>things. 1) It will provide a method of allowing several applications
>to simultaneously share bidirectional communications with the K3 by
>creating virtual ports for the other applications to connect to... 2)
>It will provide a means to obtain offset data from the K3, and pass it
>along to WU2X's IF Stage version of PowerSDR... 3) It provides a
>convenient way to implement point-and-click tuning from PowerSDR /IF
>Stage by providing an extensive direct DDE interface to PowerSDR. Here
>are some reduced size screen grabs. Views are normal, normal with K3
>status and setup / diagnostic view."
>
>73,  Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Nice 10 M Sporadic E opening this evening.  Bandmaster show lots of
callsings.  But DXAtlas is showing only a few.

No obvious correlation to time of spot or location.

Thoughts?

Mark, WD4ELG
http://wd4elg.net

Do you have a filter activated in BM ? DX Atlas shows filtered spots and recent
spots

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: wd4elg_base
   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:54 PM
   Subject: [dxatlas] Question about BandMaster and DXAtlas linkage


   Nice 10 M Sporadic E opening this evening. Bandmaster show lots of
   callsings. But DXAtlas is showing only a few.

   No obvious correlation to time of spot or location.

   Thoughts?

   Mark, WD4ELG
   http://wd4elg.net





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Mark be sure that you have set BM to list calls some distance from you.
If that setting is short you will only see calls with in a few miles.
That may be the issue. I see none on mine for CW but there are quite a
few on SSB. Nice opening on six meters as well. One of the best in a
week or so!
Best of luck....

Bruce, K2BET

wd4elg_base wrote:
>
> Nice 10 M Sporadic E opening this evening. Bandmaster show lots of
> callsings. But DXAtlas is showing only a few.
>
> No obvious correlation to time of spot or location.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark, WD4ELG
> http://wd4elg.net <http://wd4elg.net>
>
>
>
> __________ NOD32 3244 (20080705) Information __________
>
> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> http://www.eset.com

Also.... be sure that  you bring up DX Atlas from within BM and not by
itself... I think that has made a difference for me before...

wd4elg_base wrote:
>
> Nice 10 M Sporadic E opening this evening. Bandmaster show lots of
> callsings. But DXAtlas is showing only a few.
>
> No obvious correlation to time of spot or location.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mark, WD4ELG
> http://wd4elg.net <http://wd4elg.net>
>
>
>
> __________ NOD32 3244 (20080705) Information __________
>
> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> http://www.eset.com

I think that was the most correct answer.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Bruce Tanner
   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:17 PM
   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Question about BandMaster and DXAtlas linkage


   Also.... be sure that you bring up DX Atlas from within BM and not by
   itself... I think that has made a difference for me before...

   wd4elg_base wrote:
   >
   > Nice 10 M Sporadic E opening this evening. Bandmaster show lots of
   > callsings. But DXAtlas is showing only a few.
   >
   > No obvious correlation to time of spot or location.
   >
   > Thoughts?
   >
   > Mark, WD4ELG
   > http://wd4elg.net <http://wd4elg.net>
   >
   >
   >
   > __________ NOD32 3244 (20080705) Information __________
   >
   > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
   > http://www.eset.com




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I was bringing up DXAtlas separately rather than from INSIDE
BandMaster.  Tha fixed it.  Thanks, Bruce and all for the help

Mark, WD4ELG
http://wd4elg.net

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "bill_w4zv" <w0zv@...> wrote:
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rt_tclay" <rt_clay@> wrote:
>
> > I'm still hoping the bandwidth in Softrock-IF mode will get opened up
> > :) I recently installed a 192KHz capable sound card, but still only
> > ~20 KHz in IF mode.
>
> Me too but Alex told me this is unlikely to happen.  BTW I believe
> it's actually 24 kHz in Softrock-IF.  Although that BW is not visible
> on the waterfall I believe Skimmer still captures calls over the 24
> khz span.
>

Yes, I was hoping (based on the picture of IF mode in the Skimmer help
file) that the width depended on the sampling rate. So you would get
more by going from 96 to 192 KHz sampling. But unfortunately not.

If anyone is looking for a 192-capable PCI sound card, I have been
using the  Bluegears b-Enspirer 7.1 (~105$). It seems to work pretty
well for SDR use.

Tor
N4OGW

Dear Alex

Lately, Bandmaster does not show my cluster spots. I use DX Watch and the new DX
Summit. Can you tell me why I cannot see my spots in Bandmaster?

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Dan,

While the owners of the DXSummit site are playing with their data formats,
Band Master cannot parse their output. I have modified the program to
understand their current format, but I don't want to release it until I know
that the format will not change again. For the time being, please use Telnet
clusters instead of the Web cluster.

73 Alex VE3NEA



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master


> Dear Alex
>
> Lately, Bandmaster does not show my cluster spots. I use DX Watch and the
> new DX Summit. Can you tell me why I cannot see my spots in Bandmaster?
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Looks like I spoke too soon in endorsing the Eterlogic virtual serial port
emulator.  I have done some further tests and for some reason am now
getting very flakey frequency data passed to CW Skimmer when sharing
between Skimmer and N1MM Logger.  Even without tuning either radio, the
frequency passed to Skimmer switches every couple of seconds from the
correct radio frequency to two totally off-the-wall numbers - clearly bad
data being received by Skimmer.  I don't know why I didn't see this before,
but it will be a show-stopper unless there is some cure.  I've also
discovered that MM won't close when Skimmer is closed first, while using
the VSPE - annoying but not fatal, like the other thing.

oh well.....

73, Pete N4ZR

No such QRG pass problems noted here Pete.  I have seen the N1MM
exit hang you mention though.
73 de Barry GM3YEH.


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
>
> Looks like I spoke too soon in endorsing the Eterlogic virtual
serial port
> emulator.  I have done some further tests and for some reason am
now
> getting very flakey frequency data passed to CW Skimmer when
sharing
> between Skimmer and N1MM Logger.  Even without tuning either
radio, the
> frequency passed to Skimmer switches every couple of seconds from
the
> correct radio frequency to two totally off-the-wall numbers -
clearly bad
> data being received by Skimmer.  I don't know why I didn't see
this before,
> but it will be a show-stopper unless there is some cure.  I've
also
> discovered that MM won't close when Skimmer is closed first, while
using
> the VSPE - annoying but not fatal, like the other thing.
>
> oh well.....
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>

Alex

What about DX Watch? Does Bandmaster read DX Watch?

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Alex, VE3NEA
   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:01 PM
   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master


   Hi Dan,

   While the owners of the DXSummit site are playing with their data formats,
   Band Master cannot parse their output. I have modified the program to
   understand their current format, but I don't want to release it until I know
   that the format will not change again. For the time being, please use Telnet
   clusters instead of the Web cluster.

   73 Alex VE3NEA

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
   To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master

   > Dear Alex
   >
   > Lately, Bandmaster does not show my cluster spots. I use DX Watch and the
   > new DX Summit. Can you tell me why I cannot see my spots in Bandmaster?
   >
   > Best Regards
   > Dan Schaaf
   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
   >
   >
   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not yet


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 03:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master


> Alex
>
> What about DX Watch? Does Bandmaster read DX Watch?
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Alex, VE3NEA
>  To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:01 PM
>  Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master
>
>
>  Hi Dan,
>
>  While the owners of the DXSummit site are playing with their data
> formats,
>  Band Master cannot parse their output. I have modified the program to
>  understand their current format, but I don't want to release it until I
> know
>  that the format will not change again. For the time being, please use
> Telnet
>  clusters instead of the Web cluster.
>
>  73 Alex VE3NEA
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
>  To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:04 PM
>  Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Band master
>
>  > Dear Alex
>  >
>  > Lately, Bandmaster does not show my cluster spots. I use DX Watch and
> the
>  > new DX Summit. Can you tell me why I cannot see my spots in Bandmaster?
>  >
>  > Best Regards
>  > Dan Schaaf
>  > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

What other application programs are you using it with, Barry - sorry if
you've said before but I don't recall.

73, Pete

At 02:08 PM 7/8/2008, you wrote:
>No such QRG pass problems noted here Pete.  I have seen the N1MM
>exit hang you mention though.
>73 de Barry GM3YEH.
>
>
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like I spoke too soon in endorsing the Eterlogic virtual
>serial port
> > emulator.  I have done some further tests and for some reason am
>now
> > getting very flakey frequency data passed to CW Skimmer when
>sharing
> > between Skimmer and N1MM Logger.  Even without tuning either
>radio, the
> > frequency passed to Skimmer switches every couple of seconds from
>the
> > correct radio frequency to two totally off-the-wall numbers -
>clearly bad
> > data being received by Skimmer.  I don't know why I didn't see
>this before,
> > but it will be a show-stopper unless there is some cure.  I've
>also
> > discovered that MM won't close when Skimmer is closed first, while
>using
> > the VSPE - annoying but not fatal, like the other thing.
> >
> > oh well.....
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Same here- no freq problems. But N1MM does hang on exit.

Tor
N4OGW

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Barry GM3YEH" <bjbe@...> wrote:
>
> No such QRG pass problems noted here Pete.  I have seen the N1MM
> exit hang you mention though.
> 73 de Barry GM3YEH.
>
>

The device configurer in N1MM also hangs when I try to close it.

Tor
N4OGW

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Barry GM3YEH" <bjbe@...> wrote:
>
> No such QRG pass problems noted here Pete.  I have seen the N1MM
> exit hang you mention though.
> 73 de Barry GM3YEH.
>
>