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#878 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:07 pm
Subject: Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
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Hi,

I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
allready using Band master dx-atlas.

Do you know of such programs.

73,

Robert PE1CWU




#879 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
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AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster. go to
www.DXSoft.com


Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


Hi,

I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
allready using Band master dx-atlas.

Do you know of such programs.

73,

Robert PE1CWU





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




#880 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
Send Email Send Email
 
--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
go to www.DXSoft.com
>
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> allready using Band master dx-atlas.
>
> Do you know of such programs.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert PE1CWU
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
But does it retreive information from my rig?
Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
Like Log Window 4.5?

73,

Robert




#881 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
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You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on a cluster
spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and if the spot is split
freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set accordingly. And the DX call sign is
automatically inserted into the New QSO window of the log.

And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM shows it in
Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then it shows in Red in
BM. If it is a new station but not a new country, it is shown in black in BM.

And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has gotten me 295
countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot of searching.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
go to www.DXSoft.com
>
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> allready using Band master dx-atlas.
>
> Do you know of such programs.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert PE1CWU
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
But does it retreive information from my rig?
Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
Like Log Window 4.5?

73,

Robert





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




#882 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
Send Email Send Email
 
--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
New QSO window of the log.
>
> And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
it is shown in black in BM.
>
> And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
>
> Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
of searching.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
> go to www.DXSoft.com
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> >
> > Do you know of such programs.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert PE1CWU
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> But does it retreive information from my rig?
> Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> Like Log Window 4.5?
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

73,

Robert





#883 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
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I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I have
clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a digital
adjustment in the software.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
New QSO window of the log.
>
> And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
it is shown in black in BM.
>
> And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
>
> Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
of searching.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.
> go to www.DXSoft.com
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> >
> > Do you know of such programs.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert PE1CWU
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> But does it retreive information from my rig?
> Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> Like Log Window 4.5?
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

73,

Robert





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




#885 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
Send Email Send Email
 
Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
too.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
digital adjustment in the software.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
> a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
> if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
> New QSO window of the log.
> >
> > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
> it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
> it is shown in black in BM.
> >
> > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> >
> > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
> of searching.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
Bandmaster.
> > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > >
> > > Do you know of such programs.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert PE1CWU
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > Like Log Window 4.5?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





#886 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
Send Email Send Email
 
Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control on radios.
However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in operation, the left
hand is usually always on the VFO and the right hand is operating the keyboard
and Morse Key. It is extremely efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating
in pileups or trying to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure
that a skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for your ear,
and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all other
accessories offset from the radio.

Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable setup. It may
mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe the software that you
are using presently is a better choice for you.

BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the actual
interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES allow you to
incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
===============================
NOBSKA
www.nobska.net
===============================
Cape Cod Instruments
www.oceanbiz.net
===============================
----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
too.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
digital adjustment in the software.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on
> a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
> if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
> New QSO window of the log.
> >
> > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then
> it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
> it is shown in black in BM.
> >
> > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> >
> > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
> of searching.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
Bandmaster.
> > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am
> > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > >
> > > Do you know of such programs.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert PE1CWU
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > Like Log Window 4.5?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




#887 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:31 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
Send Email Send Email
 
It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
other accessories offset from the radio.
>
> Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
>
> BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> ===============================
> NOBSKA
> www.nobska.net
> ===============================
> Cape Cod Instruments
> www.oceanbiz.net
> ===============================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
> handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
> up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
> too.
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
> have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
> digital adjustment in the software.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
clicking on
> > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
> > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
> > New QSO window of the log.
> > >
> > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
logged, then
> > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
> > it is shown in black in BM.
> > >
> > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> > >
> > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
> > of searching.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> Bandmaster.
> > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
i am
> > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > >
> > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





#888 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
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Dear Robert

I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if the softwares
works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the HAMPORT window will do
what you want, just not in the logger window.

BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower amplifier. Enough
internal computing power to get the job done.

Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963. Only last
year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897) for exactly that
reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries worked were all done on an old
FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

If you are interested, my credentials are:
My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I built computers
for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help them further their
education.
In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800 processor ,
programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote an operating system
for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3
scrap drives.
Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar satellite
tracking.
Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into the computer
motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my college assignments to the
Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour to the school. At General Instrument
corp. myself and 2 other engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF
tuner and the accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
selectors on TVs.

So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
===============================
NOBSKA
www.nobska.net
===============================
Cape Cod Instruments
www.oceanbiz.net
===============================

----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
other accessories offset from the radio.
>
> Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
>
> BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> ===============================
> NOBSKA
> www.nobska.net
> ===============================
> Cape Cod Instruments
> www.oceanbiz.net
> ===============================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its
> handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is
> up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC
> too.
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I
> have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
> digital adjustment in the software.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
clicking on
> > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and
> > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the
> > New QSO window of the log.
> > >
> > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
logged, then
> > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,
> > it is shown in black in BM.
> > >
> > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> > >
> > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot
> > of searching.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> Bandmaster.
> > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
i am
> > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > >
> > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




#890 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 6:18 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
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Dear Dan

I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
to date database this way.

73,

Robert

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Robert
>
> I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
>
> BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
>
> Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
>
> If you are interested, my credentials are:
> My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
them further their education.
> In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
(Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
satellite tracking.
> Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
selectors on TVs.
>
> So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> ===============================
> NOBSKA
> www.nobska.net
> ===============================
> Cape Cod Instruments
> www.oceanbiz.net
> ===============================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
> work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
> that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
> operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
> to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
> your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> other accessories offset from the radio.
> >
> > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
> the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
> >
> > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
> actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > ===============================
> > NOBSKA
> > www.nobska.net
> > ===============================
> > Cape Cod Instruments
> > www.oceanbiz.net
> > ===============================
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
mouse its
> > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
rig is
> > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
the PC
> > too.
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
after I
> > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
> > digital adjustment in the software.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> clicking on
> > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
frequency and
> > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
into the
> > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > >
> > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> logged, then
> > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
country,
> > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > >
> > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> > > >
> > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
a lot
> > > of searching.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > Bandmaster.
> > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> i am
> > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





#991 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
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Hi Dan,

I actually bought AAlog.

73,

Robert

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Dan
>
> I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
> alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
> but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
> assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
> channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
> With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
> software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
> up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
> the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
> to date database this way.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Robert
> >
> > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
> the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
> HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
> >
> > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
> amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
> >
> > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
> Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
> for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
> worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
> >
> > If you are interested, my credentials are:
> > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
> built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
> them further their education.
> > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
> processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
> an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
> (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
> satellite tracking.
> > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
> the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
> college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
> to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
> engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
> accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
> selectors on TVs.
> >
> > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > ===============================
> > NOBSKA
> > www.nobska.net
> > ===============================
> > Cape Cod Instruments
> > www.oceanbiz.net
> > ===============================
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
like to
> > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
logbook
> > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
DXPeditions in
> > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
trying
> > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
tuning for
> > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> > other accessories offset from the radio.
> > >
> > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
maybe
> > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
you.
> > >
> > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
is the
> > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > ===============================
> > > NOBSKA
> > > www.nobska.net
> > > ===============================
> > > Cape Cod Instruments
> > > www.oceanbiz.net
> > > ===============================
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
> mouse its
> > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
> rig is
> > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
> the PC
> > > too.
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
> after I
> > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
with a
> > > digital adjustment in the software.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> > clicking on
> > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
> frequency and
> > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
> into the
> > > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
worked, BM
> > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> > logged, then
> > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
> country,
> > > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
underlined.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
it has
> > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
> a lot
> > > > of searching.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
<dan-schaaf@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > > Bandmaster.
> > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> > i am
> > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
steps,
> > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





#894 From: "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 11:51 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
alshovk
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Hi Robert,

I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't exactly
fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.

73 Alex VE3NEA





----- Original Message -----
From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


Dear Dan

I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
to date database this way.

73,

Robert

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Robert
>
> I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
>
> BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
>
> Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
>
> If you are interested, my credentials are:
> My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
them further their education.
> In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
(Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
satellite tracking.
> Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
selectors on TVs.
>
> So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> ===============================
> NOBSKA
> www.nobska.net
> ===============================
> Cape Cod Instruments
> www.oceanbiz.net
> ===============================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
> work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
> that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
> operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
> to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
> your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> other accessories offset from the radio.
> >
> > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
> the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
> >
> > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
> actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > ===============================
> > NOBSKA
> > www.nobska.net
> > ===============================
> > Cape Cod Instruments
> > www.oceanbiz.net
> > ===============================
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
mouse its
> > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
rig is
> > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
the PC
> > too.
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
after I
> > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
> > digital adjustment in the software.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> clicking on
> > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
frequency and
> > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
into the
> > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > >
> > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> logged, then
> > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
country,
> > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > >
> > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> > > >
> > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
a lot
> > > of searching.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > Bandmaster.
> > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> i am
> > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






#895 From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
rdvrey
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Hi Alex,

I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
has much bigger value, to bad.

73,

Robert PE1CWU

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
> automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
> answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
exactly
> fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
>
> 73 Alex VE3NEA
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
> To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> Dear Dan
>
> I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
> alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
> but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
> assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
> channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
> With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
> software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
> up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
> the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
> to date database this way.
>
> 73,
>
> Robert
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Robert
> >
> > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
> the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
> HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
> >
> > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
> amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
> >
> > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
> Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
> for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
> worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
> >
> > If you are interested, my credentials are:
> > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
> built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
> them further their education.
> > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
> processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
> an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
> (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
> satellite tracking.
> > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
> the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
> college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
> to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
> engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
> accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
> selectors on TVs.
> >
> > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > ===============================
> > NOBSKA
> > www.nobska.net
> > ===============================
> > Cape Cod Instruments
> > www.oceanbiz.net
> > ===============================
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
like to
> > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
logbook
> > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
DXPeditions in
> > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
trying
> > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
tuning for
> > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> > other accessories offset from the radio.
> > >
> > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
maybe
> > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
you.
> > >
> > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
is the
> > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > ===============================
> > > NOBSKA
> > > www.nobska.net
> > > ===============================
> > > Cape Cod Instruments
> > > www.oceanbiz.net
> > > ===============================
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
> mouse its
> > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
> rig is
> > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
> the PC
> > > too.
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
> after I
> > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
with a
> > > digital adjustment in the software.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> > clicking on
> > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
> frequency and
> > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
> into the
> > > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
worked, BM
> > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> > logged, then
> > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
> country,
> > > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
underlined.
> > > > >
> > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
it has
> > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
> a lot
> > > > of searching.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
<dan-schaaf@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > > Bandmaster.
> > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> > i am
> > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
steps,
> > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>





#897 From: Pete Smith <n4zr@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
n4zr
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Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
current.

You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
>has much bigger value, to bad.
>
>73,
>
>Robert PE1CWU
>
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
>exactly
> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
> >
> > 73 Alex VE3NEA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Dear Dan
> >
> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
> > to date database this way.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Robert
> > >
> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
> > >
> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
> > >
> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
> > >
> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
> > them further their education.
> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
> > satellite tracking.
> > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
> > selectors on TVs.
> > >
> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > ===============================
> > > NOBSKA
> > > www.nobska.net
> > > ===============================
> > > Cape Cod Instruments
> > > www.oceanbiz.net
> > > ===============================
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
>like to
> > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
>logbook
> > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
>DXPeditions in
> > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
>trying
> > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
>tuning for
> > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> > > other accessories offset from the radio.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
>maybe
> > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
>you.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
>is the
> > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > ===============================
> > > > NOBSKA
> > > > www.nobska.net
> > > > ===============================
> > > > Cape Cod Instruments
> > > > www.oceanbiz.net
> > > > ===============================
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
> > mouse its
> > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
> > rig is
> > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
> > the PC
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
> > after I
> > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
>with a
> > > > digital adjustment in the software.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> > > clicking on
> > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
> > frequency and
> > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
> > into the
> > > > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
>worked, BM
> > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> > > logged, then
> > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
> > country,
> > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
>underlined.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
>it has
> > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
> > a lot
> > > > > of searching.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
><dan-schaaf@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > > > Bandmaster.
> > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> > > i am
> > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 73,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robert
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
>steps,
> > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>



#904 From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 11:12 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
npc222000
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There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
Spot.

Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
whole web page, he is fine with it.

73
Neal k3nc

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
> Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a
> subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was
> current.
>
> You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:
>>Hi Alex,
>>
>>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold
>>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information
>>has much bigger value, to bad.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Robert PE1CWU
>>
>>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Robert,
>> >
>> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if
>> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He
>> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't
>>exactly
>> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.
>> >
>> > 73 Alex VE3NEA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
>> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Dan
>> >
>> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
>> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
>> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
>> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
>> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
>> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
>> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
>> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
>> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
>> > to date database this way.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Dear Robert
>> > >
>> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
>> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
>> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
>> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
>> > >
>> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
>> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
>> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
>> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
>> > >
>> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:
>> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
>> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
>> > them further their education.
>> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
>> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
>> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
>> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
>> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
>> > satellite tracking.
>> > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
>> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
>> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
>> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
>> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
>> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
>> > selectors on TVs.
>> > >
>> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards
>> > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > ===============================
>> > > NOBSKA
>> > > www.nobska.net
>> > > ===============================
>> > > Cape Cod Instruments
>> > > www.oceanbiz.net
>> > > ===============================
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: rdvrey
>> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You
>>like to
>> > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
>> > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
>> > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
>> > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
>> > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
>> > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
>> > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
>> > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a
>>logbook
>> > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
>> > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
>> > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
>> > >
>> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
>> > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and
>>DXPeditions in
>> > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
>> > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
>> > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or
>>trying
>> > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
>> > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
>> > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are
>>tuning for
>> > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
>> > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
>> > > other accessories offset from the radio.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
>> > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
>> > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or
>>maybe
>> > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for
>>you.
>> > > >
>> > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport
>>is the
>> > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
>> > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best Regards
>> > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > NOBSKA
>> > > > www.nobska.net
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > Cape Cod Instruments
>> > > > www.oceanbiz.net
>> > > > ===============================
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
>> > mouse its
>> > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
>> > rig is
>> > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
>> > the PC
>> > > > too.
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
>> > after I
>> > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around
>>with a
>> > > > digital adjustment in the software.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
>> > > clicking on
>> > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
>> > frequency and
>> > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
>> > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
>> > into the
>> > > > > New QSO window of the log.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already
>>worked, BM
>> > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
>> > > logged, then
>> > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
>> > country,
>> > > > > it is shown in black in BM.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is
>>underlined.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and
>>it has
>> > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
>> > a lot
>> > > > > of searching.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"
>><dan-schaaf@>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
>> > > > Bandmaster.
>> > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Best Regards
>> > > > > > > Dan Schaaf
>> > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > From: rdvrey
>> > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
>> > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
>> > > i am
>> > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > 73,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
>> > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
>> > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 73,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Robert
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small
>>steps,
>> > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 73,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Robert
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>



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#896 From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
oceanbiz01
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Robert

Are you aware of the feature button in BM which lets you look up on QRZ.com ? It
only brings up the webpage, but does not insert the info into log. Too bad,
would be nice.

I wish Alex would add 2 features to BM.
1) Auto update of LOTW user list
2) Quick Memory buttons for user defined memories especially for DXPed freqs and
the 5 channels for 60 meters.
3) For you Robert, the mouse adjustment of frequency in BM same as in HAMPORT

For as much as I try to simplify my life , it seems always that technology adds
another level of complexity to my life which I end up enjoying.


Best Regards
Dan Schaaf
K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
===============================
NOBSKA
www.nobska.net
===============================
Cape Cod Instruments
www.oceanbiz.net
===============================
----- Original Message -----
From: rdvrey
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


Dear Dan

I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more
alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system
but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in
assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16
channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.
With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx
software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look
up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way
the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up
to date database this way.

73,

Robert

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Robert
>
> I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if
the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the
HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.
>
> BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower
amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.
>
> Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.
Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)
for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries
worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.
>
> If you are interested, my credentials are:
> My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I
built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help
them further their education.
> In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800
processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote
an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive
(Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.
> Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar
satellite tracking.
> Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into
the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my
college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour
to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other
engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the
accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel
selectors on TVs.
>
> So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.
>
> Best Regards
> Dan Schaaf
> K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> ===============================
> NOBSKA
> www.nobska.net
> ===============================
> Cape Cod Instruments
> www.oceanbiz.net
> ===============================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rdvrey
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
>
> It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to
> work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as
> any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in
> computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went
> to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is
> due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old
> analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial
> communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that
> works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook
> that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for
> you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will
> test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
wrote:
> >
> > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control
> on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in
> operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right
> hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely
> efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying
> to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a
> skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is
> nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for
> your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.
> > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all
> other accessories offset from the radio.
> >
> > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.
> > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable
> setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe
> the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.
> >
> > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the
> actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES
> allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Dan Schaaf
> > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > ===============================
> > NOBSKA
> > www.nobska.net
> > ===============================
> > Cape Cod Instruments
> > www.oceanbiz.net
> > ===============================
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rdvrey
> > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> >
> >
> > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the
mouse its
> > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My
rig is
> > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on
the PC
> > too.
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments
after I
> > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a
> > digital adjustment in the software.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > Dan Schaaf
> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: rdvrey
> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by
> clicking on
> > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that
frequency and
> > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set
> > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted
into the
> > > New QSO window of the log.
> > > >
> > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM
> > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand
> logged, then
> > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new
country,
> > > it is shown in black in BM.
> > > >
> > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.
> > > >
> > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has
> > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me
a lot
> > > of searching.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and
> > Bandmaster.
> > > > go to www.DXSoft.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > Dan Schaaf
> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: rdvrey
> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because
> i am
> > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know of such programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert PE1CWU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?
> > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?
> > > > Like Log Window 4.5?
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,
> > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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#905 From: "Mike Harris" <mike.harris@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
vp8no
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Good day,

Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just
pulls up the name and address details, no ads.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks


| There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
| realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
| exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
| Spot.
|
| Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
| website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
| do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
| whole web page, he is fine with it.
|
| 73
| Neal k3nc




#908 From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
npc222000
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Unless you have a subscription with QRZ Online or the author has some
special deal with Fred I suspect that there is a problem.

Neal

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris@...> wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just
> pulls up the name and address details, no ads.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
> To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks
>
> | There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows
> | realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml
> | exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called
> | Spot.
> |
> | Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his
> | website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and
> | do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the
> | whole web page, he is fine with it.
> |
> | 73
> | Neal k3nc
>
>



--
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux
(540) 242 0911
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - introduction priced at $10.99
-------------------------------------------------
For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com
-------------------------------------------------
See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in
action at www.flex-videos.com



 
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