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#878

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:07 pm
Subject: Omni-Rig and Logbooks

Hi,



I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

allready using Band master dx-atlas.



Do you know of such programs.



73,



Robert PE1CWU

#879

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

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AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster. go to

www.DXSoft.com





Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"



   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





   Hi,



   I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

   allready using Band master dx-atlas.



   Do you know of such programs.



   73,



   Robert PE1CWU











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#880

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

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--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.

go to www.DXSoft.com

>

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   Hi,

>

>   I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

>   allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>

>   Do you know of such programs.

>

>   73,

>

>   Robert PE1CWU

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

But does it retreive information from my rig?

Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

Like Log Window 4.5?



73,



Robert

#881

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

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You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on a cluster

spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and if the spot is split

freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set accordingly. And the DX call sign is

automatically inserted into the New QSO window of the log.

And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM shows it in

Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then it shows in Red in

BM. If it is a new station but not a new country, it is shown in black in BM.

And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has gotten me 295

countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot of searching.

Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

   >

   > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.

   go to www.DXSoft.com

   >

   >

   > Best Regards

   > Dan Schaaf

   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   >

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: rdvrey

   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   >

   >

   > Hi,

   >

   > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

   > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

   >

   > Do you know of such programs.

   >

   > 73,

   >

   > Robert PE1CWU

   >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >

   But does it retreive information from my rig?

   Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

   Like Log Window 4.5?

   73,

   Robert

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#882

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:43 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

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--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on

a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

New QSO window of the log.

>

> And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then

it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

it is shown in black in BM.

>

> And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

>

> Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

of searching.

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

wrote:

>   >

>   > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.

>   go to www.DXSoft.com

>   >

>   >

>   > Best Regards

>   > Dan Schaaf

>   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   >

>   > ----- Original Message -----

>   > From: rdvrey

>   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   >

>   >

>   > Hi,

>   >

>   > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

>   > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>   >

>   > Do you know of such programs.

>   >

>   > 73,

>   >

>   > Robert PE1CWU

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>   But does it retreive information from my rig?

>   Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>   Like Log Window 4.5?

>

>   73,

>

>   Robert

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>



Hi,



Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.



73,



Robert

#883

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

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I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I have

clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a digital

adjustment in the software.



Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"



   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

   >

   > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on

   a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

   if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

   accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

   New QSO window of the log.

   >

   > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

   shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then

   it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

   it is shown in black in BM.

   >

   > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

   >

   > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

   gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

   of searching.

   >

   > Best Regards

   > Dan Schaaf

   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   >

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: rdvrey

   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   >

   >

   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   wrote:

   > >

   > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and Bandmaster.

   > go to www.DXSoft.com

   > >

   > >

   > > Best Regards

   > > Dan Schaaf

   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > >

   > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > From: rdvrey

   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > >

   > >

   > > Hi,

   > >

   > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

   > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

   > >

   > > Do you know of such programs.

   > >

   > > 73,

   > >

   > > Robert PE1CWU

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > >

   > But does it retreive information from my rig?

   > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

   > Like Log Window 4.5?

   >

   > 73,

   >

   > Robert

   >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >



   Hi,



   Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

   since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.



   73,



   Robert











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#885

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

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Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its

handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is

up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC

too.



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I

have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

digital adjustment in the software.

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

>   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

wrote:

>   >

>   > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on

>   a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

>   if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

>   accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

>   New QSO window of the log.

>   >

>   > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

>   shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then

>   it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

>   it is shown in black in BM.

>   >

>   > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

>   >

>   > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

>   gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

>   of searching.

>   >

>   > Best Regards

>   > Dan Schaaf

>   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   >

>   > ----- Original Message -----

>   > From: rdvrey

>   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   >

>   >

>   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   wrote:

>   > >

>   > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

Bandmaster.

>   > go to www.DXSoft.com

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > Best Regards

>   > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > >

>   > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > From: rdvrey

>   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > Hi,

>   > >

>   > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

>   > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>   > >

>   > > Do you know of such programs.

>   > >

>   > > 73,

>   > >

>   > > Robert PE1CWU

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > >

>   > But does it retreive information from my rig?

>   > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>   > Like Log Window 4.5?

>   >

>   > 73,

>   >

>   > Robert

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>

>   Hi,

>

>   Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

>   since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

>

>   73,

>

>   Robert

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

#886

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

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Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control on radios.

However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in operation, the left

hand is usually always on the VFO and the right hand is operating the keyboard

and Morse Key. It is extremely efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating

in pileups or trying to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure

that a skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for your ear,

and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all other

accessories offset from the radio.



Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable setup. It may

mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe the software that you

are using presently is a better choice for you.



BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the actual

interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES allow you to

incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.



Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

===============================

NOBSKA

www.nobska.net

===============================

Cape Cod Instruments

www.oceanbiz.net

===============================

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





   Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its

   handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is

   up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC

   too.



   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

   >

   > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I

   have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

   digital adjustment in the software.

   >

   > Best Regards

   > Dan Schaaf

   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   >

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: rdvrey

   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   >

   >

   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   wrote:

   > >

   > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by clicking on

   > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

   > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

   > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

   > New QSO window of the log.

   > >

   > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

   > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand logged, then

   > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

   > it is shown in black in BM.

   > >

   > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

   > >

   > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

   > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

   > of searching.

   > >

   > > Best Regards

   > > Dan Schaaf

   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > >

   > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > From: rdvrey

   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > >

   > >

   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > wrote:

   > > >

   > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

   Bandmaster.

   > > go to www.DXSoft.com

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > Best Regards

   > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > >

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > Hi,

   > > >

   > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because i am

   > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

   > > >

   > > > Do you know of such programs.

   > > >

   > > > 73,

   > > >

   > > > Robert PE1CWU

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > >

   > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

   > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

   > > Like Log Window 4.5?

   > >

   > > 73,

   > >

   > > Robert

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > >

   >

   > Hi,

   >

   > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

   > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

   >

   > 73,

   >

   > Robert

   >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#887

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:31 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

Send Email

It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to

work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook

that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in

operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying

to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for

your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

> And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

other accessories offset from the radio.

>

> Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

> But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe

the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

>

> BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the

actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> ===============================

> NOBSKA

> www.nobska.net

> ===============================

> Cape Cod Instruments

> www.oceanbiz.net

> ===============================

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

>   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its

>   handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is

>   up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC

>   too.

>

>   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

wrote:

>   >

>   > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I

>   have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

>   digital adjustment in the software.

>   >

>   > Best Regards

>   > Dan Schaaf

>   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   >

>   > ----- Original Message -----

>   > From: rdvrey

>   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

>   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   >

>   >

>   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   wrote:

>   > >

>   > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

clicking on

>   > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

>   > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

>   > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

>   > New QSO window of the log.

>   > >

>   > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

>   > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

logged, then

>   > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

>   > it is shown in black in BM.

>   > >

>   > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

>   > >

>   > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

>   > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

>   > of searching.

>   > >

>   > > Best Regards

>   > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > >

>   > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > From: rdvrey

>   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   > wrote:

>   > > >

>   > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

>   Bandmaster.

>   > > go to www.DXSoft.com

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > Best Regards

>   > > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > > >

>   > > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > > From: rdvrey

>   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > Hi,

>   > > >

>   > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

i am

>   > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>   > > >

>   > > > Do you know of such programs.

>   > > >

>   > > > 73,

>   > > >

>   > > > Robert PE1CWU

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > > >

>   > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

>   > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>   > > Like Log Window 4.5?

>   > >

>   > > 73,

>   > >

>   > > Robert

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > >

>   >

>   > Hi,

>   >

>   > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

>   > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

>   >

>   > 73,

>   >

>   > Robert

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

#888

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Wed Jul 2, 2008 11:52 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

Send Email

Dear Robert



I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if the softwares

works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the HAMPORT window will do

what you want, just not in the logger window.



BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower amplifier. Enough

internal computing power to get the job done.



Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963. Only last

year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897) for exactly that

reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries worked were all done on an old

FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.



If you are interested, my credentials are:

My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I built computers

for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help them further their

education.

In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800 processor ,

programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote an operating system

for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3

scrap drives.

Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar satellite

tracking.

Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into the computer

motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my college assignments to the

Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour to the school. At General Instrument

corp. myself and 2 other engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF

tuner and the accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

selectors on TVs.



So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.



Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

===============================

NOBSKA

www.nobska.net

===============================

Cape Cod Instruments

www.oceanbiz.net

===============================



   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to

   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook

   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.



   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

   >

   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in

   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying

   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for

   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

   other accessories offset from the radio.

   >

   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe

   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

   >

   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the

   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

   >

   > Best Regards

   > Dan Schaaf

   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > ===============================

   > NOBSKA

   > www.nobska.net

   > ===============================

   > Cape Cod Instruments

   > www.oceanbiz.net

   > ===============================

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: rdvrey

   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   >

   >

   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the mouse its

   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My rig is

   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on the PC

   > too.

   >

   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   wrote:

   > >

   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments after I

   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

   > digital adjustment in the software.

   > >

   > > Best Regards

   > > Dan Schaaf

   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > >

   > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > From: rdvrey

   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > >

   > >

   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > wrote:

   > > >

   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

   clicking on

   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that frequency and

   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted into the

   > > New QSO window of the log.

   > > >

   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

   logged, then

   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new country,

   > > it is shown in black in BM.

   > > >

   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

   > > >

   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me a lot

   > > of searching.

   > > >

   > > > Best Regards

   > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > >

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > > wrote:

   > > > >

   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

   > Bandmaster.

   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > > Best Regards

   > > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > > >

   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > > Hi,

   > > > >

   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

   i am

   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

   > > > >

   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

   > > > >

   > > > > 73,

   > > > >

   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > > >

   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

   > > >

   > > > 73,

   > > >

   > > > Robert

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > >

   > >

   > > Hi,

   > >

   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

   > >

   > > 73,

   > >

   > > Robert

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#890

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 6:18 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

Send Email

Dear Dan



I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

to date database this way.



73,



Robert



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Robert

>

> I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

>

> BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

>

> Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

>

> If you are interested, my credentials are:

> My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

them further their education.

> In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

(Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

> Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

satellite tracking.

> Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into

the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

selectors on TVs.

>

> So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> ===============================

> NOBSKA

> www.nobska.net

> ===============================

> Cape Cod Instruments

> www.oceanbiz.net

> ===============================

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

>   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to

>   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

>   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

>   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

>   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

>   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

>   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

>   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

>   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook

>   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

>   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

>   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

>

>   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

wrote:

>   >

>   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

>   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in

>   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

>   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

>   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying

>   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

>   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

>   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for

>   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

>   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

>   other accessories offset from the radio.

>   >

>   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

>   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

>   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe

>   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

>   >

>   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the

>   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

>   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

>   >

>   > Best Regards

>   > Dan Schaaf

>   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > ===============================

>   > NOBSKA

>   > www.nobska.net

>   > ===============================

>   > Cape Cod Instruments

>   > www.oceanbiz.net

>   > ===============================

>   > ----- Original Message -----

>   > From: rdvrey

>   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

>   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   >

>   >

>   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

mouse its

>   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

rig is

>   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

the PC

>   > too.

>   >

>   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   wrote:

>   > >

>   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

after I

>   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

>   > digital adjustment in the software.

>   > >

>   > > Best Regards

>   > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > >

>   > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > From: rdvrey

>   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

>   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   > wrote:

>   > > >

>   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

>   clicking on

>   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

frequency and

>   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

>   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

into the

>   > > New QSO window of the log.

>   > > >

>   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

>   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

>   logged, then

>   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

country,

>   > > it is shown in black in BM.

>   > > >

>   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

>   > > >

>   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

>   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

a lot

>   > > of searching.

>   > > >

>   > > > Best Regards

>   > > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > > >

>   > > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > > From: rdvrey

>   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   > > wrote:

>   > > > >

>   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

>   > Bandmaster.

>   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Best Regards

>   > > > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > > > >

>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > > > From: rdvrey

>   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Hi,

>   > > > >

>   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

>   i am

>   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

>   > > > >

>   > > > > 73,

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > > > >

>   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

>   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

>   > > >

>   > > > 73,

>   > > >

>   > > > Robert

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > > >

>   > >

>   > > Hi,

>   > >

>   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

>   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

>   > >

>   > > 73,

>   > >

>   > > Robert

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

#991

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2008 10:10 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

Send Email

Hi Dan,



I actually bought AAlog.



73,



Robert



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Dan

>

> I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

> alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

> but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

> assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

> channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

> With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

> software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

> up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

> the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

> to date database this way.

>

> 73,

>

> Robert

>

> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Robert

> >

> > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

> the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

> HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

> >

> > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

> amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

> >

> > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

> Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

> for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

> worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

> >

> > If you are interested, my credentials are:

> > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

> built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

> them further their education.

> > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

> processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

> an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

> (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

> > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

> satellite tracking.

> > Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into

> the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

> college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

> to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

> engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

> accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

> selectors on TVs.

> >

> > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Dan Schaaf

> > K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > ===============================

> > NOBSKA

> > www.nobska.net

> > ===============================

> > Cape Cod Instruments

> > www.oceanbiz.net

> > ===============================

> >

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: rdvrey

> >   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

> >   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >

> >

> >   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You

like to

> >   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

> >   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

> >   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

> >   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

> >   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

> >   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

> >   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

> >   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a

logbook

> >   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

> >   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

> >   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

> >

> >   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> wrote:

> >   >

> >   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

> >   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and

DXPeditions in

> >   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

> >   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

> >   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or

trying

> >   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

> >   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

> >   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are

tuning for

> >   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

> >   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

> >   other accessories offset from the radio.

> >   >

> >   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

> >   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

> >   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or

maybe

> >   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for

you.

> >   >

> >   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport

is the

> >   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

> >   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

> >   >

> >   > Best Regards

> >   > Dan Schaaf

> >   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > ===============================

> >   > NOBSKA

> >   > www.nobska.net

> >   > ===============================

> >   > Cape Cod Instruments

> >   > www.oceanbiz.net

> >   > ===============================

> >   > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > From: rdvrey

> >   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

> >   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

> mouse its

> >   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

> rig is

> >   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

> the PC

> >   > too.

> >   >

> >   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> >   wrote:

> >   > >

> >   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

> after I

> >   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around

with a

> >   > digital adjustment in the software.

> >   > >

> >   > > Best Regards

> >   > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > >

> >   > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

> >   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> >   > wrote:

> >   > > >

> >   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

> >   clicking on

> >   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

> frequency and

> >   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

> >   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

> into the

> >   > > New QSO window of the log.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already

worked, BM

> >   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

> >   logged, then

> >   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

> country,

> >   > > it is shown in black in BM.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is

underlined.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and

it has

> >   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

> a lot

> >   > > of searching.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Best Regards

> >   > > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > > >

> >   > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

> >   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"

<dan-schaaf@>

> >   > > wrote:

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

> >   > Bandmaster.

> >   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Best Regards

> >   > > > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

> >   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Hi,

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

> >   i am

> >   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > 73,

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

> >   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

> >   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

> >   > > >

> >   > > > 73,

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Robert

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > > >

> >   > >

> >   > > Hi,

> >   > >

> >   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small

steps,

> >   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

> >   > >

> >   > > 73,

> >   > >

> >   > > Robert

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

#894

From: "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 11:51 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

alshovk

Send Email

Hi Robert,



I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if

automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He

answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't exactly

fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.



73 Alex VE3NEA











----- Original Message -----

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>

To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM

Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





Dear Dan



I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

to date database this way.



73,



Robert



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Robert

>

> I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

>

> BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

>

> Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

>

> If you are interested, my credentials are:

> My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

them further their education.

> In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

(Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

> Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

satellite tracking.

> Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into

the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

selectors on TVs.

>

> So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

>

> Best Regards

> Dan Schaaf

> K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> ===============================

> NOBSKA

> www.nobska.net

> ===============================

> Cape Cod Instruments

> www.oceanbiz.net

> ===============================

>

>   ----- Original Message -----

>   From: rdvrey

>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

>   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

>   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to

>   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

>   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

>   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

>   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

>   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

>   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

>   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

>   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook

>   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

>   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

>   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

>

>   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

wrote:

>   >

>   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

>   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in

>   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

>   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

>   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying

>   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

>   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

>   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for

>   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

>   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

>   other accessories offset from the radio.

>   >

>   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

>   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

>   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe

>   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

>   >

>   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the

>   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

>   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

>   >

>   > Best Regards

>   > Dan Schaaf

>   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > ===============================

>   > NOBSKA

>   > www.nobska.net

>   > ===============================

>   > Cape Cod Instruments

>   > www.oceanbiz.net

>   > ===============================

>   > ----- Original Message -----

>   > From: rdvrey

>   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

>   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   >

>   >

>   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

mouse its

>   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

rig is

>   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

the PC

>   > too.

>   >

>   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   wrote:

>   > >

>   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

after I

>   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

>   > digital adjustment in the software.

>   > >

>   > > Best Regards

>   > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > >

>   > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > From: rdvrey

>   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

>   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   > wrote:

>   > > >

>   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

>   clicking on

>   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

frequency and

>   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

>   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

into the

>   > > New QSO window of the log.

>   > > >

>   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

>   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

>   logged, then

>   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

country,

>   > > it is shown in black in BM.

>   > > >

>   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

>   > > >

>   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

>   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

a lot

>   > > of searching.

>   > > >

>   > > > Best Regards

>   > > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > > >

>   > > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > > From: rdvrey

>   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>   > > wrote:

>   > > > >

>   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

>   > Bandmaster.

>   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Best Regards

>   > > > > Dan Schaaf

>   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>   > > > >

>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>   > > > > From: rdvrey

>   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Hi,

>   > > > >

>   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

>   i am

>   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

>   > > > >

>   > > > > 73,

>   > > > >

>   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > >

>   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > > > >

>   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

>   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

>   > > >

>   > > > 73,

>   > > >

>   > > > Robert

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > >

>   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > > >

>   > >

>   > > Hi,

>   > >

>   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

>   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

>   > >

>   > > 73,

>   > >

>   > > Robert

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > >

>   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   > >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   >

>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>   >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

#895

From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

rdvrey

Send Email

Hi Alex,



I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold

the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information

has much bigger value, to bad.



73,



Robert PE1CWU



--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Robert,

>

> I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if

> automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He

> answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't

exactly

> fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.

>

> 73 Alex VE3NEA

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>

> To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM

> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

>

> Dear Dan

>

> I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

> alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

> but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

> assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

> channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

> With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

> software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

> up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

> the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

> to date database this way.

>

> 73,

>

> Robert

>

> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Robert

> >

> > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

> the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

> HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

> >

> > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

> amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

> >

> > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

> Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

> for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

> worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

> >

> > If you are interested, my credentials are:

> > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

> built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

> them further their education.

> > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

> processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

> an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

> (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

> > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

> satellite tracking.

> > Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into

> the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

> college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

> to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

> engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

> accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

> selectors on TVs.

> >

> > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Dan Schaaf

> > K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > ===============================

> > NOBSKA

> > www.nobska.net

> > ===============================

> > Cape Cod Instruments

> > www.oceanbiz.net

> > ===============================

> >

> >   ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: rdvrey

> >   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

> >   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >

> >

> >   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You

like to

> >   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

> >   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

> >   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

> >   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

> >   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

> >   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

> >   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

> >   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a

logbook

> >   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

> >   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

> >   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

> >

> >   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> wrote:

> >   >

> >   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

> >   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and

DXPeditions in

> >   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

> >   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

> >   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or

trying

> >   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

> >   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

> >   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are

tuning for

> >   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

> >   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

> >   other accessories offset from the radio.

> >   >

> >   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

> >   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

> >   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or

maybe

> >   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for

you.

> >   >

> >   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport

is the

> >   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

> >   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

> >   >

> >   > Best Regards

> >   > Dan Schaaf

> >   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > ===============================

> >   > NOBSKA

> >   > www.nobska.net

> >   > ===============================

> >   > Cape Cod Instruments

> >   > www.oceanbiz.net

> >   > ===============================

> >   > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > From: rdvrey

> >   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

> >   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

> mouse its

> >   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

> rig is

> >   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

> the PC

> >   > too.

> >   >

> >   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> >   wrote:

> >   > >

> >   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

> after I

> >   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around

with a

> >   > digital adjustment in the software.

> >   > >

> >   > > Best Regards

> >   > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > >

> >   > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

> >   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> >   > wrote:

> >   > > >

> >   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

> >   clicking on

> >   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

> frequency and

> >   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

> >   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

> into the

> >   > > New QSO window of the log.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already

worked, BM

> >   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

> >   logged, then

> >   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

> country,

> >   > > it is shown in black in BM.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is

underlined.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and

it has

> >   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

> a lot

> >   > > of searching.

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Best Regards

> >   > > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > > >

> >   > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

> >   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"

<dan-schaaf@>

> >   > > wrote:

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

> >   > Bandmaster.

> >   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Best Regards

> >   > > > > Dan Schaaf

> >   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> >   > > > > From: rdvrey

> >   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> >   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

> >   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Hi,

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

> >   i am

> >   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > 73,

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > > > >

> >   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

> >   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

> >   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

> >   > > >

> >   > > > 73,

> >   > > >

> >   > > > Robert

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > >

> >   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > > >

> >   > >

> >   > > Hi,

> >   > >

> >   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small

steps,

> >   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

> >   > >

> >   > > 73,

> >   > >

> >   > > Robert

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > >

> >   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   > >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   >

> >   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >   >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

#897

From: Pete Smith <n4zr@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

n4zr

Send Email

Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a

subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was

current.



You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.



73, Pete N4ZR



At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:

>Hi Alex,

>

>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold

>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information

>has much bigger value, to bad.

>

>73,

>

>Robert PE1CWU

>

>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Robert,

> >

> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if

> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He

> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't

>exactly

> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.

> >

> > 73 Alex VE3NEA

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>

> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM

> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> >

> >

> > Dear Dan

> >

> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

> > to date database this way.

> >

> > 73,

> >

> > Robert

> >

> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Robert

> > >

> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

> > >

> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

> > >

> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

> > >

> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:

> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

> > them further their education.

> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

> > satellite tracking.

> > > Then I built the first telephone  modem that could be plugged into

> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

> > selectors on TVs.

> > >

> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Dan Schaaf

> > > K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > > ===============================

> > > NOBSKA

> > > www.nobska.net

> > > ===============================

> > > Cape Cod Instruments

> > > www.oceanbiz.net

> > > ===============================

> > >

> > >   ----- Original Message -----

> > >   From: rdvrey

> > >   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> > >   Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

> > >   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> > >

> > >

> > >   It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You

>like to

> > >   work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

> > >   any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

> > >   computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

> > >   to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

> > >   due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

> > >   analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

> > >   communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

> > >   works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a

>logbook

> > >   that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

> > >   you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

> > >   test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

> > >

> > >   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> > wrote:

> > >   >

> > >   > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

> > >   on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and

>DXPeditions in

> > >   operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

> > >   hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

> > >   efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or

>trying

> > >   to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

> > >   skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

> > >   nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are

>tuning for

> > >   your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

> > >   > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

> > >   other accessories offset from the radio.

> > >   >

> > >   > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

> > >   > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

> > >   setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or

>maybe

> > >   the software that you are using presently is a better choice for

>you.

> > >   >

> > >   > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport

>is the

> > >   actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

> > >   allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

> > >   >

> > >   > Best Regards

> > >   > Dan Schaaf

> > >   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > >   > ===============================

> > >   > NOBSKA

> > >   > www.nobska.net

> > >   > ===============================

> > >   > Cape Cod Instruments

> > >   > www.oceanbiz.net

> > >   > ===============================

> > >   > ----- Original Message -----

> > >   > From: rdvrey

> > >   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> > >   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

> > >   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

> > mouse its

> > >   > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

> > rig is

> > >   > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

> > the PC

> > >   > too.

> > >   >

> > >   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> > >   wrote:

> > >   > >

> > >   > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

> > after I

> > >   > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around

>with a

> > >   > digital adjustment in the software.

> > >   > >

> > >   > > Best Regards

> > >   > > Dan Schaaf

> > >   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > >   > >

> > >   > > ----- Original Message -----

> > >   > > From: rdvrey

> > >   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> > >   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

> > >   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> > >   > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

> > >   > wrote:

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

> > >   clicking on

> > >   > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

> > frequency and

> > >   > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

> > >   > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

> > into the

> > >   > > New QSO window of the log.

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already

>worked, BM

> > >   > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

> > >   logged, then

> > >   > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

> > country,

> > >   > > it is shown in black in BM.

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is

>underlined.

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and

>it has

> > >   > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

> > a lot

> > >   > > of searching.

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > Best Regards

> > >   > > > Dan Schaaf

> > >   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > >   > > > From: rdvrey

> > >   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> > >   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

> > >   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"

><dan-schaaf@>

> > >   > > wrote:

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

> > >   > Bandmaster.

> > >   > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > Best Regards

> > >   > > > > Dan Schaaf

> > >   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > >   > > > > From: rdvrey

> > >   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

> > >   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

> > >   > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > Hi,

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

> > >   i am

> > >   > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > Do you know of such programs.

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > 73,

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > Robert PE1CWU

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >   > > > >

> > >   > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

> > >   > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

> > >   > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > 73,

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > Robert

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > >

> > >   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >   > > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > > Hi,

> > >   > >

> > >   > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small

>steps,

> > >   > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

> > >   > >

> > >   > > 73,

> > >   > >

> > >   > > Robert

> > >   > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > >

> > >   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >   > >

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   >

> > >   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >   >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

#904

From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 11:12 am
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

npc222000

Send Email

There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows

realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml

exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called

Spot.



Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his

website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and

do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the

whole web page, he is fine with it.



73

Neal k3nc



On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:

> Perhaps something could be worked out so that they could have a

> subscription portal, and access would only work if your subscription was

> current.

>

> You might want to suggest it to the people at QRZ.

>

> 73, Pete N4ZR

>

> At 08:43 AM 7/3/2008, rdvrey wrote:

>>Hi Alex,

>>

>>I understand and acknowledge the argument, QRZ needs money to uphold

>>the incredible service the offer. Its just that real time information

>>has much bigger value, to bad.

>>

>>73,

>>

>>Robert PE1CWU

>>

>>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Alex, VE3NEA" <alshovk@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > Hi Robert,

>> >

>> > I emailed Fred, the owner of QRZ.COM, a while ago, and asked him if

>> > automatic callsign lookup on his server from a program was legal. He

>> > answered, "As for its "legitimacy", yes, it's legal, but it isn't

>>exactly

>> > fair to QRZ". I decided not to implement such function in my software.

>> >

>> > 73 Alex VE3NEA

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ----- Original Message -----

>> > From: "rdvrey" <rdvrey@...>

>> > To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

>> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 02:18 AM

>> > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> >

>> >

>> > Dear Dan

>> >

>> > I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

>> > alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

>> > but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

>> > assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

>> > channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

>> > With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

>> > software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

>> > up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

>> > the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

>> > to date database this way.

>> >

>> > 73,

>> >

>> > Robert

>> >

>> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Dear Robert

>> > >

>> > > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

>> > the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

>> > HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

>> > >

>> > > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

>> > amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

>> > >

>> > > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

>> > Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

>> > for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

>> > worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

>> > >

>> > > If you are interested, my credentials are:

>> > > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

>> > built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

>> > them further their education.

>> > > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

>> > processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

>> > an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

>> > (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

>> > > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

>> > satellite tracking.

>> > > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into

>> > the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

>> > college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

>> > to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

>> > engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

>> > accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

>> > selectors on TVs.

>> > >

>> > > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

>> > >

>> > > Best Regards

>> > > Dan Schaaf

>> > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>> > > ===============================

>> > > NOBSKA

>> > > www.nobska.net

>> > > ===============================

>> > > Cape Cod Instruments

>> > > www.oceanbiz.net

>> > > ===============================

>> > >

>> > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > From: rdvrey

>> > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

>> > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You

>>like to

>> > > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

>> > > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

>> > > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

>> > > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

>> > > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

>> > > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

>> > > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

>> > > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a

>>logbook

>> > > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

>> > > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

>> > > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

>> > >

>> > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>> > wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

>> > > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and

>>DXPeditions in

>> > > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

>> > > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

>> > > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or

>>trying

>> > > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

>> > > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

>> > > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are

>>tuning for

>> > > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

>> > > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

>> > > other accessories offset from the radio.

>> > > >

>> > > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

>> > > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

>> > > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or

>>maybe

>> > > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for

>>you.

>> > > >

>> > > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport

>>is the

>> > > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

>> > > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

>> > > >

>> > > > Best Regards

>> > > > Dan Schaaf

>> > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>> > > > ===============================

>> > > > NOBSKA

>> > > > www.nobska.net

>> > > > ===============================

>> > > > Cape Cod Instruments

>> > > > www.oceanbiz.net

>> > > > ===============================

>> > > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > > From: rdvrey

>> > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

>> > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

>> > mouse its

>> > > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

>> > rig is

>> > > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

>> > the PC

>> > > > too.

>> > > >

>> > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>> > > wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

>> > after I

>> > > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around

>>with a

>> > > > digital adjustment in the software.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Best Regards

>> > > > > Dan Schaaf

>> > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > > > From: rdvrey

>> > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

>> > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

>> > > > wrote:

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

>> > > clicking on

>> > > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

>> > frequency and

>> > > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

>> > > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

>> > into the

>> > > > > New QSO window of the log.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already

>>worked, BM

>> > > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

>> > > logged, then

>> > > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

>> > country,

>> > > > > it is shown in black in BM.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is

>>underlined.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and

>>it has

>> > > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

>> > a lot

>> > > > > of searching.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Best Regards

>> > > > > > Dan Schaaf

>> > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > > > > From: rdvrey

>> > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf"

>><dan-schaaf@>

>> > > > > wrote:

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

>> > > > Bandmaster.

>> > > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Best Regards

>> > > > > > > Dan Schaaf

>> > > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

>> > > > > > > From: rdvrey

>> > > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

>> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

>> > > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Hi,

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

>> > > i am

>> > > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Do you know of such programs.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > 73,

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Robert PE1CWU

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

>> > > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

>> > > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > 73,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Robert

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Hi,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small

>>steps,

>> > > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > 73,

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Robert

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > >

>> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>> > >

>> >

>>

>>

>>

>>------------------------------------

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>>

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>







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#896

From: "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...>
Date: Thu Jul 3, 2008 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

oceanbiz01

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Robert



Are you aware of the feature button in BM which lets you look up on QRZ.com ? It

only brings up the webpage, but does not insert the info into log. Too bad,

would be nice.



I wish Alex would add 2 features to BM.

1) Auto update of LOTW user list

2) Quick Memory buttons for user defined memories especially for DXPed freqs and

the 5 channels for 60 meters.

3) For you Robert, the mouse adjustment of frequency in BM same as in HAMPORT



For as much as I try to simplify my life , it seems always that technology adds

another level of complexity to my life which I end up enjoying.





Best Regards

Dan Schaaf

K3ZXL   www.k3zxl.com   "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

===============================

NOBSKA

www.nobska.net

===============================

Cape Cod Instruments

www.oceanbiz.net

===============================

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: rdvrey

   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:18 AM

   Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





   Dear Dan



   I was hoping for a more sensible discussion. Actually we are much more

   alike then one would think. I almost wrote software for a 68008 system

   but it was to unstable. So I it became a 6809 and I wrote the Os in

   assembly and the user interface in Pascal. It was a real time 16

   channel reaction measurement system. 2 ms accurate.

   With Hamport I can do what I like. And the integration with the dx

   software does work rather needly. But it doesn't do a real time look

   up in qrz.com instead it can only use a cd. My guess is that this way

   the guys at qrz.com earn some money but then again one never has a up

   to date database this way.



   73,



   Robert



   --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@...> wrote:

   >

   > Dear Robert

   >

   > I understand completely. I will be interested to hear from you if

   the softwares works to your satisfaction. As I said previously, the

   HAMPORT window will do what you want, just not in the logger window.

   >

   > BTW, my rig is a Yaesu FT-920 and FT-897D with Tokyo HyPower

   amplifier. Enough internal computing power to get the job done.

   >

   > Yes, I do come from the old days of analog radios, licensed in 1963.

   Only last year did I purchase a CAT control radio (FT-920 and FT-897)

   for exactly that reason, CAT control. But 245 of my 295 countries

   worked were all done on an old FT-101ZD analog, tube radio.

   >

   > If you are interested, my credentials are:

   > My first company that I owned in 1996 was The Computer Doctor. I

   built computers for the underpriveleged kids in the Miami area to help

   them further their education.

   > In 1976, I built my own computer from scratch around a Motorola 6800

   processor , programmed it in Machine Code with an Assembler and wrote

   an operating system for it to drive a Pertec 5 track tape drive

   (Nibbles) which I rebuilt from 3 scrap drives.

   > Then I wrote the code to control az and el antenna control for Oscar

   satellite tracking.

   > Then I built the first telephone modem that could be plugged into

   the computer motherboard buss. That done so that I could send my

   college assignments to the Professor by modem rather than drive 1 hour

   to the school. At General Instrument corp. myself and 2 other

   engineers designed the first Varactor tuned TV VHF/UHF tuner and the

   accompanying remote control to replace the rotary knob channel

   selectors on TVs.

   >

   > So, I am not totally out of touch with technology.

   >

   > Best Regards

   > Dan Schaaf

   > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > ===============================

   > NOBSKA

   > www.nobska.net

   > ===============================

   > Cape Cod Instruments

   > www.oceanbiz.net

   > ===============================

   >

   > ----- Original Message -----

   > From: rdvrey

   > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:31 PM

   > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   >

   >

   > It might be that there is a difference in the way we work. You like to

   > work your way and I my way. Neither one is bad or better. My rig as

   > any rig now a days has inbuilt intelligence that is far greater in

   > computing power then the navigation computer of the Apollo that went

   > to the moon. And the technical excellence that nowadays rigs have is

   > due too computer added designing only. Unless you are working a old

   > analog rig I can imagine your reaction. Since it has serial

   > communication with a PC its not old. I belong to the generation that

   > works with computers every day, and like to do so. If I want a logbook

   > that can do that so be it. Its for me to decide. If AAlog works for

   > you I am happy for you but maybe it doesn't do that for me. I will

   > test it and I had already downloaded it before your first comment.

   >

   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   wrote:

   > >

   > > Well, I applaud the advancements in digital automation and control

   > on radios. However, when you watch videos of DXers and DXPeditions in

   > operation, the left hand is usually always on the VFO and the right

   > hand is operating the keyboard and Morse Key. It is extremely

   > efficient to have the VFO in hand when operating in pileups or trying

   > to pull out a weak signal. Don't get me wrong, I am sure that a

   > skilled mouse operator can accomplish the same goals. But there is

   > nothing like fine tuning the knob manually because you are tuning for

   > your ear, and the ear/brain combo likes analog moreso than digital.

   > > And those DXers seem to have the radio in front of them and all

   > other accessories offset from the radio.

   > >

   > > Anyway, to each his own. That is what makes this hobby unique.

   > > But, I think you will like the AALog/BM/DXAtlas combo a suitable

   > setup. It may mean that you have to adjust operating habits. Or maybe

   > the software that you are using presently is a better choice for you.

   > >

   > > BTW, You need to download HAMPORT along with Omnirig. Hamport is the

   > actual interface between the BM and AALog and rig.Now, Hamport DOES

   > allow you to incrementally change frequency in 10 Hz increments.

   > >

   > > Best Regards

   > > Dan Schaaf

   > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > ===============================

   > > NOBSKA

   > > www.nobska.net

   > > ===============================

   > > Cape Cod Instruments

   > > www.oceanbiz.net

   > > ===============================

   > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > From: rdvrey

   > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 6:53 PM

   > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > >

   > >

   > > Yep mine has too thats odd, seriously when your holding the

   mouse its

   > > handy to continue doing that. And then there are short keys. My

   rig is

   > > up 2 feet higer and its more convenient to have that feature on

   the PC

   > > too.

   > >

   > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > wrote:

   > > >

   > > > I use a knob on my radio labeled "VFO" for small adjustments

   after I

   > > have clicked on a spot. It is much faster than playing around with a

   > > digital adjustment in the software.

   > > >

   > > > Best Regards

   > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > >

   > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:43 PM

   > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > > wrote:

   > > > >

   > > > > You don't tune the rig from the logbook. You tune it by

   > clicking on

   > > > a cluster spot in Bandmaster and the rig tunes to that

   frequency and

   > > > if the spot is split freq, then your rig VFO A and B are set

   > > > accordingly. And the DX call sign is automatically inserted

   into the

   > > > New QSO window of the log.

   > > > >

   > > > > And, when ever a station is spotted that you already worked, BM

   > > > shows it in Grey. If the country has never been workedand

   > logged, then

   > > > it shows in Red in BM. If it is a new station but not a new

   country,

   > > > it is shown in black in BM.

   > > > >

   > > > > And, if the station is a LOTW user, the call sign is underlined.

   > > > >

   > > > > Many good features. I have been using it for 3 years and it has

   > > > gotten me 295 countries in most bands in 3 years. Has saved me

   a lot

   > > > of searching.

   > > > >

   > > > > Best Regards

   > > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > > >

   > > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:21 PM

   > > > > Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Schaaf" <dan-schaaf@>

   > > > wrote:

   > > > > >

   > > > > > AALog is the solution. It is integrated with DXAtlas and

   > > Bandmaster.

   > > > > go to www.DXSoft.com

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > > Best Regards

   > > > > > Dan Schaaf

   > > > > > K3ZXL www.k3zxl.com "In the Beginning, there was Spark Gap"

   > > > > >

   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

   > > > > > From: rdvrey

   > > > > > To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com

   > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 PM

   > > > > > Subject: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > > Hi,

   > > > > >

   > > > > > I would to find a logbook program that uses omni-Rig because

   > i am

   > > > > > allready using Band master dx-atlas.

   > > > > >

   > > > > > Do you know of such programs.

   > > > > >

   > > > > > 73,

   > > > > >

   > > > > > Robert PE1CWU

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > >

   > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > > > >

   > > > > But does it retreive information from my rig?

   > > > > Can I tune my rig from within the logbook ?

   > > > > Like Log Window 4.5?

   > > > >

   > > > > 73,

   > > > >

   > > > > Robert

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > >

   > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > > >

   > > >

   > > > Hi,

   > > >

   > > > Maybe I should explain better, Log Wondow allows for small steps,

   > > > since the ferquentie tuned to by band master might be slight of.

   > > >

   > > > 73,

   > > >

   > > > Robert

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > >

   > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > >

   > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   > >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   >

   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

   >











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#905

From: "Mike Harris" <mike.harris@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

vp8no

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Good day,



Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category?  It just

pulls up the name and address details, no ads.



Regards,



Mike VP8NO



----- Original Message -----

From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>

To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM

Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks





| There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows

| realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml

| exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called

| Spot.

|

| Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his

| website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and

| do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the

| whole web page, he is fine with it.

|

| 73

| Neal k3nc

#908

From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>
Date: Fri Jul 4, 2008 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

npc222000

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Unless you have a subscription with QRZ Online or the author has some

special deal with Fred I suspect that there is a problem.



Neal



On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Mike Harris <mike.harris@...> wrote:

> Good day,

>

> Would the QRZ lookup feature in Logger32 be in this category? It just

> pulls up the name and address details, no ads.

>

> Regards,

>

> Mike VP8NO

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc@...>

> To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:12 AM

> Subject: Re: [dxatlas] Omni-Rig and Logbooks

>

> | There is a simple solution: subscribe to QRZ Online which allows

> | realtime access to the database from programs that utilize his xml

> | exchange. I just added it to my OS X DXCluster application called

> | Spot.

> |

> | Also, Fred does not mind if you do a real-time "get" against his

> | website, he objects when people filter out only the callsign info and

> | do not include the ads. So if you do a URL get, which returns the

> | whole web page, he is fine with it.

> |

> | 73

> | Neal k3nc

>

>







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