Hi folks.  I am trying to figure out the best use of Skimmer to support
contests.  I have a K-3 running LP-Bridge, PowerSDR and N1MM.  Using Wintelnetx
for spots.

I have an R-75 receiver under CAT control.

Presently I am using R-75 as a standalone and TELNET spots to Wintelnetx.  This
works fine, but the frequency of the spot appears to be about 300HZ off from the
K-3 dial.  Skimmer is in 3KHZ mode.  My CW Tone on the K-3 is set to 550HZ.  If
I sent the CW Tone on CWSkimmer to 850 it appears to match up with the K-3.  Is
there a way to sync the frequencies?

Another alternative would be to set Skimmer CAT to LP-Bridge Port, use the
EMU-0202 sound card as the audio source and set Skimmer to Softrock-IQ.  PROS
and CONS?

Goal is to simply get reliable spots (correct frequency) into N1MM bandmap from
Skimmer and would appreciate a monosyllable explainations/opinions.

Thanks much,

Hank WB4ROA

It seems to me that some 'whiz-bang' programmer on here might want to
consider a new SDR program similar to Rocky in simplicity as Alex has
indicated some time ago that 'Rocky' "... will never be upgraded for use
with Vista." He has not made many upgrades for the program recently and
seemed quite direct that what you have now is all Rocky is going to
give. I hope Alex gets on here and gives me Hell, letting me know this
is not true!

It is nevertheless a great piece of programming and we have all had
benefit of it. Rocky was what I 'cut my teeth on' and Alex was
responsible for referring me to the Softrock to begin with. I tend to
favor PSDR at this point but I need to install the upgraded WinRad to
see how that will improve my amateur radio experience.

Bruce, K2BET
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Hank, I'm not familiar with the R-75, but it sounds to me as if it is
simply not calibrated the same as your K-3.

If you had an LP-Pan, I would suggest getting signals for Skimmer
from the K-3 IF.  But since that apparently is not the case, I would
just set the Skimmer CW Tone to 850 and go with the R-75.  It is
important to get the Skimmer spotting on the right frequency, so that
when you jump there, you can easily hear the station.  In fact, a big
Skimmer advantage is that all Skimmer spots (properly calibrated) are
heard at very nearly the same beat note, which makes you much faster
on your feet doing S&P.

73, Pete N4ZR
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At 09:58 AM 5/29/2009, you wrote:
>Hi folks.  I am trying to figure out the best use of Skimmer to
>support contests.  I have a K-3 running LP-Bridge, PowerSDR and
>N1MM.  Using Wintelnetx for spots.
>
>I have an R-75 receiver under CAT control.
>
>Presently I am using R-75 as a standalone and TELNET spots to
>Wintelnetx.  This works fine, but the frequency of the spot appears
>to be about 300HZ off from the K-3 dial.  Skimmer is in 3KHZ
>mode.  My CW Tone on the K-3 is set to 550HZ.  If I sent the CW Tone
>on CWSkimmer to 850 it appears to match up with the K-3.  Is there a
>way to sync the frequencies?
>
>Another alternative would be to set Skimmer CAT to LP-Bridge Port,
>use the EMU-0202 sound card as the audio source and set Skimmer to
>Softrock-IQ.  PROS and CONS?
>
>Goal is to simply get reliable spots (correct frequency) into N1MM
>bandmap from Skimmer and would appreciate a monosyllable
>explainations/opinions.
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Hank WB4ROA
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Hi Steve, and thanks for the input.

I guess I am using Skimmer more as a scoop as it is not tracking with my rig. 
With the R-75 receiver, I set the freq a bit ahead when doing S&P and let it
suck CQ + Callsigns.

Still not sure why there is a frequency offset from the Skimmer spot and the
K-3.  Skimmer is set to 850 hz and the K-3 is at 550 hz to get a reliable spot.
Why 300 hz?  That is the BW I am using on the K-3, but do not see why that would
matter as Skimmer is not tracking the K-3.

Oh well...  For now it works with the offset.  Again thanks for the reply.

73,  Hank WB4ROA

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@...> wrote:
>
> Hank, I'm not familiar with the R-75, but it sounds to me as if it is
> simply not calibrated the same as your K-3.
>
> If you had an LP-Pan, I would suggest getting signals for Skimmer
> from the K-3 IF.  But since that apparently is not the case, I would
> just set the Skimmer CW Tone to 850 and go with the R-75.  It is
> important to get the Skimmer spotting on the right frequency, so that
> when you jump there, you can easily hear the station.  In fact, a big
> Skimmer advantage is that all Skimmer spots (properly calibrated) are
> heard at very nearly the same beat note, which makes you much faster
> on your feet doing S&P.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR

Pete,

FYI...  It turns out that Rigsync is the cats-meow for my bandscope
project....  And I wanted to pass along this configuration comments just
to thank you for pointing me in the right direction.  Perhaps it may
help some one else.  This project is really a great success...

Rigsync allows me to run this set of applications, and to be able to qsy
from any of them...

* CW Skimmer (scans +/- 11 khz of current rig frequency)
* PowerSDR v1.19 pretty betty - providing bandscope fed by fixed IF tap
into SR SDR
* FT-2000 with IF-2000 board feeding a 10.55 mhz SR-II
* Ham Radio Deluxe

And CW Skimmer feeds it's bandscope info via telnet to the DXlabs
Spotcollector application.  Here I screen out all calls not in the
'needed' category.  And by clicking the entry in spotcollector, I can
qsy to the frequency as well.  At the same time, qrz lookup is
performed, a check of prior QSO in the log comes up, and the guy's qth
is spotted on the world map!

Now unfortunately, CW skimmer configured for Softrock-IF only covers
about 22khz.  Not sure why that makes any sense - but Alex has no
interest in changing that.  However, it is also possible (with
additional e SDR units) to see an entire CW segments and incorporate
their feeds as well.

I have set one SR SDR to a fixed-frequency - middle of 20m CW band.  And
then started a 2nd instance of skimmer (different INI passed by command
line so the settings in this instance do not "contaminate" the 1st
instance serving the IF feed).  And then manually adjusted the IF shift
so that the frequency indicated on CWSkimmer is correct (takes a bit of
trial and error but once that offset is known, it's easy to qsy bands as
well).

Setup this way, the 2nd SDR driving the 2nd instance of CW skimmer
provides telnet spots to Spotcollector - just as the 1st instance/IF cw
skimmer does.  However, it's manually set to a specific band and
captures up to 200khz - this weekend I ran it on 20m providing telnet
spot sources on everything from 14.00-14.18.  Even when I was playing on
15, 40 and 80m...

With average loading of only about 10% CPU per skimmer instance, I think
additional instances of skimmer / softrock set on other dedicated bands
would work FB.  My max CPU utilization with all this stuff running was
only about 50% on my 3.3G P-quad.  Seems I could maybe load up another 3
instances to cover 15/30/40 as well without needing more computer power
(the actual problem is finding high performance affordable sound cards
that allow more than one per system.  I did not consider virtualization,
however, and that may work as well...

Hope that explanation made sense...   :)

This combination of goodies allowed me to pick up about 15 new countries
and about 40 new band-mode-countries over the weekend's WPX playtime!

Only minor problem with this configuration for those that may want to
try it: the offset for each mode varies slightly.  A dedicated IF
program like the WU2X PowerSDR - while being based on much older
PowerSDR code - is customized to allow offsets to be specified by mode.
For me, I have adjusted the rig digi modes (PKT) offset to match the CW
carrier so one IF offset value covers nearly 100% of my use.

The upside is that Betty is fantastic looking.  And has far better DSP
capabilities than the older code.  And some things that I like to use
(level calibration and image rejection calibration) are non-functional
in the WU2X version.  Overall, a good compromise IMHO...

Wish list:  I am hoping to track down a way to pass the call from the
Dxkeeper application over to DM780 as that is a very handy (and great
looking) digital/cw interface and has a nice log interface.  With that,
nearly the entire process of QSY, QRZ and map directional lookup,
database checking, LoTw/EQSL submissions is automatic with just the
click on the call in spot collector.  Leaving me to just focus on
setting the TX frequency which was on my original wish list.

While I was not able to find a way to semi-automate the split qsy, this
combo has otherwise taken a load of tasks away which makes setting the
split tx frequency just about the only task left!!!  Fantastic for the
lazy rookie DX chasers like me...

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction with Rigsync.  It's
a great addition to a lot of other great programs that a lot of hard
working hams have put out over the years.

73/jeff/ac0c


Jeff Blaine wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Pete,
>
> Rigsync does this to an extent. But as I seem to be able to make it
> work, it essentially makes the button pushing steps I am doing into
> mouse button clicks. The same steps are required and there seems to be
> no net increase in simplicity or speed.
>
> Perhaps I am not using the program correctly...
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
> >
> >
> > Take a look at W2RF's Rigsync - I believe it will do what you want.
> >
> > 73, Pete
> >
> > At 03:58 PM 5/28/2009, you wrote:
> > >I love skimmer. Works great. In the default configuration, a click
> > >on the call sign qsy the VFO-A. Fantastic.
> > >
> > >In working dx split, I have thought of a very cool use for skimmer
> > >and that I wanted to ask the group about...
> > >
> > >Once the dx is identified and I have the loaded up on the
> > >VFO-A. Typically I would engage split, and then set VFO-B to the
> > >frequency I am guessing the DX was last listening too.
> > >
> > >Often times, skimmer has the call sign of the guy the dx is working
> > >just now. So if I could do something to tell skimmer to:
> > >
> > >1. Engage SPLIT mode
> > >2. QSY using the VFO-B (perhaps with a slight offset of say 30 hz)
> > >
> > >In this way, skimmer would have 2 modes of operation. Set the
> > >vfoA. And split/VFOB.
> > >
> > >If skimmer were to look at (for example) the state of the CTRL key,
> > >and in the event CTRL was pushed, it would know to follow the
> > >SPLIT/VFOB rather than the VFOA operation.
> > >
> > >I can do this using skimmer now but it's cumbersome and manual - so
> > >hard to make it happen fast enough. The way I do it is...
> > >
> > >1. Click on DX call. Sets VFOA
> > >2. Transfer VFOA -->VFOB. Enable VFOB for RX only (listen to the dx)
> > >3. Click on the guy that just worked my DX. Sets VFO A to that
> > >frequency. Enable VFOA for RX & TX (listen to my tx freq).
> > >
> > >Appreciate if anyone in the group had used Skimmer in this way. Or
> > >had a better idea...
> > >
> > >In the event this feature could not be included in Skimmer at some
> > >point, I was thinking of another way to solve this.
> > >
> > >Create a filter program that uses virtual serial port pairs. So the
> > >skimmer commands would go through this filter, and then onto the
> > >target rig. The filter would normally pass the skimmer commands
> > >with no change. But in the event the CTRL key was enabled, it would
> > >insert the CAT commands to enable SPLIT, and alter the CAT command
> > >specifying VFOA so that the QSY CAT instruction targets VFOB instead.
> > >
> > >Hope this all makes sense...
> > >
> > >
> > >73/jeff/ac0c
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----------- --------- --------- -------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with perhaps
10 skimmer telnet servers.

Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation" function -
drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server source
for the sum total of all 10 feeds?

73/jeff/ac0c

Try this:
  www.canyouseeme.org
          Ron
               N6IE
  www.N6IE.com
  On Thu 04/06/09  7:52 PM , Jeff Blaine keepwalking188@...
sent:
	 In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with
perhaps
  10 skimmer telnet servers.
  Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation"
function -
  drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server
source
  for the sum total of all 10 feeds?
  73/jeff/ac0c


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Jeff Blaine wrote:
> In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with perhaps
> 10 skimmer telnet servers.
>
> Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation" function -
> drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server source
> for the sum total of all 10 feeds?

I haven't tried this, and don't know if it'll support as many as 10, but
see:

http://pvrc.org/~n4zr/Articles/Using%20WintelnetX%20to%20Combine%20Skimmer%20and\
%20Cluster%20Spots.pdf

      ~Iain / N6ML

Ron,

That tool looks to see if your external firewall ports are open.

I'm looking for something that would be resident inside the local lan.
No firewalls involved.  Hope that makes sense...

73/jeff/ac0c


ronc@... wrote:
>
>
> Try this:
> www.canyouseeme. org
> Ron
> N6IE
> www.N6IE.com
> On Thu 04/06/09 7:52 PM , Jeff Blaine keepwalking188@ yahoo.com
> <mailto:keepwalking188%40yahoo.com>
> sent:
> In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with
> perhaps
> 10 skimmer telnet servers.
> Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation"
> function -
> drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server
> source
> for the sum total of all 10 feeds?
> 73/jeff/ac0c
>
>
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Iain,

Wow, that looks like a winner!!!

I will ask Dave about the max number of feeds.  But in the documentation
it does not seem there is a limit mentioned.

73/jeff/ac0c


Iain MacDonnell - N6ML wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Jeff Blaine wrote:
> > In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with
> perhaps
> > 10 skimmer telnet servers.
> >
> > Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation" function -
> > drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server
> source
> > for the sum total of all 10 feeds?
>
> I haven't tried this, and don't know if it'll support as many as 10, but
> see:
>
> http://pvrc. org/~n4zr/ Articles/ Using%20Wintelne tX%20to%20Combin
> e%20Skimmer% 20and%20Cluster% 20Spots.pdf
>
<http://pvrc.org/%7En4zr/Articles/Using%20WintelnetX%20to%20Combine%20Skimmer%20\
and%20Cluster%20Spots.pdf>
>
> ~Iain / N6ML
>
>

Are you talking a geographically-distributed network, or all at one
location, on a network?

I know of one guy, K4TD, who is using a cluster server to consolidate
feeds from 6 Skimmers.  You might contact him.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 10:52 PM 6/4/2009, Jeff wrote:
>In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with perhaps
>10 skimmer telnet servers.
>
>Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation" function -
>drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server source
>for the sum total of all 10 feeds?
>
>73/jeff/ac0c
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Peter,

No, just here at my QTH.  And just feeding to my local network.  The
spots are not of high enough quality to publish - I just don't have that
much confidence in my system.

Rick K4TD's system - well, that's how the big boy professionals do it.
Really fantastic setup he has.

73/jeff/ac0c


Pete Smith wrote:
>
>
> Are you talking a geographically- distributed network, or all at one
> location, on a network?
>
> I know of one guy, K4TD, who is using a cluster server to consolidate
> feeds from 6 Skimmers. You might contact him.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
> At 10:52 PM 6/4/2009, Jeff wrote:
> >In a extensive multi-skimmer configuration, we could end up with perhaps
> >10 skimmer telnet servers.
> >
> >Is there an application that would provide a "consolidation" function -
> >drawing from these 10 servers and providing a single point server source
> >for the sum total of all 10 feeds?
> >
> >73/jeff/ac0c
> >
> >
> >----------- --------- --------- -------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Hi to all,

Is there a way (macro or else) to put automatically pins on a DX Atlas map using
a txt file containing a list of grids locator?

For example, I would like to indicate all my qrp qsos of a given period on a DX
Atlas map, qsos saved for MixW in a text file.
?

73 de VE2PID

Question

Click>yes Takes you to greg-hand download page listing the current newer VOACAP
engine as 09.0326 (26 Mar 2009). Which I use
to satisfy the needs of  other software requiring the VOACAP engine. Can't have
both?

Craig
kq6i

Hi Craig,

You can install the version required by HamCap and then install the latest
version in the same folder.


Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: <kq6i@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:03 AM
Subject: [dxatlas] HamCAP wants VOACAP outdated v.08.1124W (24 Nov 2008)


> Question
>
> Click>yes Takes you to greg-hand download page listing the current newer
> VOACAP engine as 09.0326 (26 Mar 2009). Which I use
> to satisfy the needs of  other software requiring the VOACAP engine. Can't
> have both?
>
> Craig
> kq6i
>
>

Greg Hand was kind enough to send me a link to the various versions of VOACAP
engines. Kinda like watching (reading about)
paint dry(ing), but I found interesting reading. However nothing for 2009?

Craig
kq6i


http://www.greg-hand.com/hf_news/

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex, VE3NEA [mailto:alshovk@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 6:42 AM
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxatlas] HamCAP wants VOACAP outdated v.08.1124W (24 Nov 2008)

Hi Craig,

You can install the version required by HamCap and then install the latest
version in the same folder.


Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: <kq6i@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:03 AM
Subject: [dxatlas] HamCAP wants VOACAP outdated v.08.1124W (24 Nov 2008)


> Question
>
> Click>yes Takes you to greg-hand download page listing the current newer
> VOACAP engine as 09.0326 (26 Mar 2009). Which I use
> to satisfy the needs of  other software requiring the VOACAP engine. Can't
> have both?
>
> Craig
> kq6i
>
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

trying different fonts. Need help putting report (Spot Report) back to proper
readable format/font.

rgrds
Craig
kq6i

A graphical CW tuning aid for us tone-deaf operators.

I've been using an audio spectrum analyzer app that I found on the Web a while
ago to make sure the audio note of a received signal is at 700Hz (my rig's
default offset) so that it's peaked in the filter passband and I'm on the same
frequency as the other station.

It works, but since it's a general purpose program, the controls and display are
not optimized for this use.

I understand that the Elecraft K3 has this feature built in; my Omni VII
doesn't.

Hi...

What I (and at least one other user in the UK) would like to see, is
Faros (the NCDXF beacon monitor) being able to natively use a GPS
receiver to synchronise it's internal clock, possibly using a 1PPS
signal if available, so not having to rely on very creaky and unreliable
NTP sources some ISP seem to provide.

Or, a "Simple to setup and use" GPS disciplined NTP server program for
the LocalHost.
There are some programs and tools about to do this, but they are
anything but simple to setup and use, and often prohibitively expensive
for "enthusiast" use sadly.

After all, the beacons themselves are controlled by a single chip micro
(quite an antique in fact) that does just that, keeping accurate time,
disciplined by a local GPS RX.

If this could be done in a future version of Faros, or as an additional
program/tool for Faros users, it would make the program most useful for
portable DXpedtions etc, and for those who have to rely on Dial up
internet or (as I suffer) incompetent ISP's who don't even know what NTP
is, or not even having the luxury of an internet connection at all.

73.


Dave G0WBX/G8KBV

Very much agree; just a few micro-seconds will make a big difference in the
reception quality.



Dave
DM78qd // KA0SWT

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++







   _____

From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Baxter
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:19 AM
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dxatlas] Re:Suggestion for a new application to add to the suite
...








Hi...

What I (and at least one other user in the UK) would like to see, is
Faros (the NCDXF beacon monitor) being able to natively use a GPS
receiver to synchronise it's internal clock, possibly using a 1PPS
signal if available, so not having to rely on very creaky and unreliable
NTP sources some ISP seem to provide.

Or, a "Simple to setup and use" GPS disciplined NTP server program for
the LocalHost.
There are some programs and tools about to do this, but they are
anything but simple to setup and use, and often prohibitively expensive
for "enthusiast" use sadly.

After all, the beacons themselves are controlled by a single chip micro
(quite an antique in fact) that does just that, keeping accurate time,
disciplined by a local GPS RX.

If this could be done in a future version of Faros, or as an additional
program/tool for Faros users, it would make the program most useful for
portable DXpedtions etc, and for those who have to rely on Dial up
internet or (as I suffer) incompetent ISP's who don't even know what NTP
is, or not even having the luxury of an internet connection at all.

73.

Dave G0WBX/G8KBV





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bert,

May I suggest the HRD digital modes program DM780?

This provides an AF-based waterfall that is very helpful to use in
optimizing tuning.  It's one of the many things I use DM780 for which is
the centerpoint of my station.

And in addition to that, it provides full 2-way capability for just
about every digital mode known, in addition to CW.  The functionality
and beauty are really hard to comprehend.

73/jeff/ac0c


bert.hyman wrote:
>
>
> A graphical CW tuning aid for us tone-deaf operators.
>
> I've been using an audio spectrum analyzer app that I found on the Web
> a while ago to make sure the audio note of a received signal is at
> 700Hz (my rig's default offset) so that it's peaked in the filter
> passband and I'm on the same frequency as the other station.
>
> It works, but since it's a general purpose program, the controls and
> display are not optimized for this use.
>
> I understand that the Elecraft K3 has this feature built in; my Omni
> VII doesn't.
>
>

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Blaine <keepwalking188@...> wrote:

> May I suggest the HRD digital modes program DM780?
>
> This provides an AF-based waterfall that is very helpful to use in
> optimizing tuning.  It's one of the many things I use DM780 for which
> is the centerpoint of my station.
> ...

I guess I'm too much of a minimalist for HRD; I find the display much too busy
for my tastes :-)

All I have on the screen when I'm operating is BandMaster and my little spectrum
analyzer window.

I also would like to be able to use FAROS in a portable mode with a GPS.

How about it Alex?  Can you please add this functionality?

73,

Jim
WA2EWE/T6


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Very much agree; just a few micro-seconds will make a big difference in the
> reception quality.
>

Hope I'm in the right place for requests.

one issue that gives me problems.
As far as I can tell, most bandmaps are oriented with lower frequencies at
the top, at lest Writelog, N1MM, and DXLabs bandsmaps appear to be that way.

Is there a way to orient the CSKimmer bandmap to reflect Lower Freqs on top
and higher below?

I really like CWSkimmer and this would help my feeble brain. Scrolling UP in one
Bandmap and Down in the other really drives my Vertigo to extremen.

BTW: I've used CWSkimmer on SSB
With the wide band of 6 meters, I can see the signal waves of SSB in the
bandmap even though they are way out of my audio filters.
Click in the center of the 'waves' get's me pretty close to on frequency.

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "vk2nu" <DavidVK2NU@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I wonder if anyone on the list is running Skimmer with WriteLog and feeding
spots to the packet window and bandmap in the logging program?
>
> I have both programs but can't figure out the steps involved to get this
working.
>
> I've posted my query to the WriteLog reflector also, but haven't got anything
back yet.
>
> Cheers
>
> David, VK2NU
>
David
There is a new Telnet option in Writelog.
First there is the Open Packet window which can get you to the cluster.
Then in the Windows menu there is something like:
"Incoming messages only or Incoming Packet"
(I'm not near my Writelog computer)
Click on that and it asks for the ip number and port that is selected in the
CWSkimmer Telnet Option.
good luck

I have Skimmer working FB in I/Q mode with my flex5000 and displaying
23 kHz or so of spectrum.

I have the second RX on this radio, and set up another instance of CW
Skimmer in the audio mode on a different band. Although I can feed CW
Skimmer 10 kHz of audio from the radio, CW Skimmer IS LIMITING ME
UNNECESSARILY TO A 3 kHz slice!

Please remove this limitation in the next version, Alex. I can
understand defaulting to something all radios can handle, but make it
possible for those of us using PowerSDR to somehow use our full 10
kHz audio slice.

If there is a workaround for this I can use now, please post it.

Jerry W4UK

The alpha version of my new program, Skimmer Server, is ready for testing.

Skimmer Server is a GUI-less application that decodes CW on 7 bands
simultaneously using a single physical receiver, and posts the decoded callsigns
via the Telnet interface in the standard DX Cluster format. Skimmer Server works
only with QS1R hardware (http://www.srl-llc.com/).

If you have QS1R and are interested in testing the alpha, please drop me an
email.

73 Alex VE3NEA

I started hanging out on 10M lately and when folks include grid numbers in their
info, like EN34<>EN72 etc, the left angle bracket "<" displays in BandMaster as
a left paren "(", like EN34(>EN72.

Watching the spots through a Telnet connection to a cluster (N5IN in my case),
the info shows correctly.

I tried changing fonts in the settings, but the error persists.

Hi Bert,

The "<" - "(" substitution is performed a the web cluster server, obviously
to avoid confusion with html tags. There is no way to "un-do" this
substitution.

Alex





----- Original Message -----
From: "bert.hyman" <bert.hyman@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: [dxatlas] BandMaster character translation error


I started hanging out on 10M lately and when folks include grid numbers in
their info, like EN34<>EN72 etc, the left angle bracket "<" displays in
BandMaster as a left paren "(", like EN34(>EN72.

Watching the spots through a Telnet connection to a cluster (N5IN in my
case), the info shows correctly.

I tried changing fonts in the settings, but the error persists.

Is there any way to save the text that streams in the bottom of Skimmer?

This week there are a number of historic morse code costal stations (Night of
Nights X http://www.radiomarine.org/non10.html) that will be on the air and I
would like to be able to record some of their transmissions as text.

Thanks
Zack
N8FNR