Hi Alex,  The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect on idle. I need
a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP program that does that but
won't upload on file change. What other FTP clients are available other that
SCR?

Thanks a million,

Dave


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Dave Baxter
   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
   Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros


   Alex (G7KSE)

   If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and I'll walk
   you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server program,
   but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and stay
   secure.

   With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the web page
   server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external NTP
   source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
   (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how I've
   tried!)

   73

   Dave G0WBX.

   > -----Original Message-----
   > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
   > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
   > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
   >
   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
   > >
   > > Hi...
   > >
   > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
   > isn't an
   > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
   > (G7KSE) I
   > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most servers will
   > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
   > them, 15
   > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP police
   > > complaining about something.
   > >
   > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
   > >
   >
   >
   > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
   > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
   > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
   > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
   > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
   > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
   > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
   > there is an expert looking on though.
   >
   >
   > Dave (KA0SWT)
   > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
   > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
   > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
   > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
   >
   > Alex





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I have CW Skimmer working with my Flex-5000A and PSDR 1.14. However
when it is decoding signals I get a lot of gibberish. Is there any
audio setting that I need to adjust?

The Audio Volume setting in Skimmer does nothing. Tried varying RX Gain
in the VAC tab but it made not difference. BTW I have SR turned off.

Prior to getting Skimmer working correctly with the radio I had it
decoding only in the actual filter bandwidth. By varying the AGC-T I
was able to get around 80-90% solid decode of CW even on fairly weak
signals.

So does anyone know how I can improve the CW decode?

Thanks
Zack
N8FNR

Hi Zack,



You will get the best results out of Skimmer with the Flex if you use the
Direct I/Q to VAC feature. Instructions are contained in the Skimmer help
file.



73 Ed W2RF



From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Zack
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:34 PM
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dxatlas] Skimmer CW Decode and Flex-5000A



I have CW Skimmer working with my Flex-5000A and PSDR 1.14. However
when it is decoding signals I get a lot of gibberish. Is there any
audio setting that I need to adjust?

The Audio Volume setting in Skimmer does nothing. Tried varying RX Gain
in the VAC tab but it made not difference. BTW I have SR turned off.

Prior to getting Skimmer working correctly with the radio I had it
decoding only in the actual filter bandwidth. By varying the AGC-T I
was able to get around 80-90% solid decode of CW even on fairly weak
signals.

So does anyone know how I can improve the CW decode?

Thanks
Zack
N8FNR





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

It seems to me that somewhere very long ago I read something about the
notion that Skimmer likes about 600 Hz signals for the most reliable
recognition. You might check that out.

Bruce, K2BET
-------------

Edward Russell wrote:
>
> Hi Zack,
>
> You will get the best results out of Skimmer with the Flex if you use the
> Direct I/Q to VAC feature. Instructions are contained in the Skimmer help
> file.
>
> 73 Ed W2RF
>
> From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Zack
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [dxatlas] Skimmer CW Decode and Flex-5000A
>
> I have CW Skimmer working with my Flex-5000A and PSDR 1.14. However
> when it is decoding signals I get a lot of gibberish. Is there any
> audio setting that I need to adjust?
>
> The Audio Volume setting in Skimmer does nothing. Tried varying RX Gain
> in the VAC tab but it made not difference. BTW I have SR turned off.
>
> Prior to getting Skimmer working correctly with the radio I had it
> decoding only in the actual filter bandwidth. By varying the AGC-T I
> was able to get around 80-90% solid decode of CW even on fairly weak
> signals.
>
> So does anyone know how I can improve the CW decode?
>
> Thanks
> Zack
> N8FNR
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 3596 (20081107) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com

Hi All.

Sorry for the Off Toppic subject, but I think those in Europe might like to know
about this...

The well known VHF beacon GB3VHF is to close at the end of this year (2008)
after about 50 years of service.

See the website at www.gb3vhf.co.uk <http://www.gb3vhf.co.uk>  for more details.
It's all down to commercial site rents, again.

73. Dave G0WBX.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.

WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep alive
AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP
AUTOftp Manager - Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution
was what I was after.
CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service. Worked
well.
FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen Delahoy
AutoFTP

I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that I ended
up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and scheduler in XP
to run it. The ftp part was the biggest headache and still isn't
failsafe on my system.

I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch to a
better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so regularly

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex,  The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another FTP
program that does that but won't upload on file change. What other
FTP clients are available other that SCR?
>
> Thanks a million,
>
> Dave
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dave Baxter
>   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
>   Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
>
>
>   Alex (G7KSE)
>
>   If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
I'll walk
>   you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
program,
>   but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
stay
>   secure.
>
>   With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
web page
>   server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
NTP
>   source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
>   (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
I've
>   tried!)
>
>   73
>
>   Dave G0WBX.
>
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
>   > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
>   > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
>   >
>   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Hi...
>   > >
>   > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
>   > isn't an
>   > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
>   > (G7KSE) I
>   > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
servers will
>   > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
>   > them, 15
>   > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
police
>   > > complaining about something.
>   > >
>   > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
>   > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
>   > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
>   > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
>   > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
>   > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
>   > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
>   > there is an expert looking on though.
>   >
>   >
>   > Dave (KA0SWT)
>   > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
>   > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
>   > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
>   > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
>   >
>   > Alex
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>
>   No virus found in this incoming message.
>   Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>   Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1770 - Release Date:
11/5/2008 5:36 PM
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Has anybody else's copy of Ionoprobe stopped updating?

Gareth - M5KVK

Mine seems to be working fine. It is reporting the last report as '3
hours ago'. I assume it is about to refresh. Is your data older than that?

Bruce, K2BET

Gareth Howell wrote:
>
> Has anybody else's copy of Ionoprobe stopped updating?
>
> Gareth - M5KVK
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 3600 (20081110) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com

My copy works fine.

73 Alex VE3NEA



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Howell" <m5kvk@...>
To: <dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: [dxatlas] Ionoprobe stopped updating


Has anybody else's copy of Ionoprobe stopped updating?

Gareth - M5KVK

My last 'WKHF.txt' report is dated 4 Nov. but everything else is up to date.

Gareth Howell wrote:
>
> Has anybody else's copy of Ionoprobe stopped updating?
>
> Gareth - M5KVK
>
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
> signature database 3600 (20081110) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>
> http://www.eset.com

Hi Alex (G7KSE)

Yes, that is much the same experience I had.  The problem is not with
the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they will
timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short) period of
time...   As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as we'd
say.

If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the link
when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next batch
is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if need be.

I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
radio, PC's etc)

There are two conflicting requirements.   To close the link when the
batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is done.   None
of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of them.

I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and if
you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection, then
WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time.   BUT...

If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server will
not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers will
timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic.   That and most
clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it, is the
problem.

The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some ways is
easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now, just
because no changes have been made for a while.  Unless you found one, I
have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server cleanly,
after a period of no local changes.

Scheduled uploaders.  Is probably the overall best way to go at the
moment.   They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
disconnect, nothing else.  The problem is to get the schedule timing
right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and conversely
not to create too many unneeded updates.   I guess if Faros is set to
update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler could run
every 7 1/2 minutes.   Just an example, I have Faros updating the GIF's
every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or triggered at
specific minutes past the hour perhaps.  Then you need to synchronise
the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...


73.

Dave G0WBX



> Messages
> __________
> 1. You have received an important Message!
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>     Date: Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:59 pm ((PST))
>
> You have received an important Message! Check it here:
> ht tp://byd yvfu.zo omshare.com/fi les/ke nny.htm
>
Yeah, as if I'm ever going to click on that!  I broke the link just to
make sure...
Ignore it folks!  No matter how well protected you may think you are, if
you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can still
get a nasty suprise, and not always imediatly!
I'm not saying that page is know to be bad, but this is how the bad guys
work...
>
> Messages in this topic (1)
> __________
> 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
>     Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
>     Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
>
> Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
>
> WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
> alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
> Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
> was after.
> CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
> Worked well.
> FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
> Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
> Delahoy AutoFTP
>
> I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
> I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
> scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
> headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
>
> I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
> to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
> regularly
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Alex,  The only problem I had was the time out and disconnect
> on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
> FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
> What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
> >
> > Thanks a million,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Dave Baxter
> >   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
> >   Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
> >
> >
> >   Alex (G7KSE)
> >
> >   If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know, and
> I'll walk
> >   you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web server
> program,
> >   but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work, and
> stay
> >   secure.
> >
> >   With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and the
> web page
> >   server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an external
> NTP
> >   source, or you could use it when out portable away from the 'net.
> >   (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh how
> I've
> >   tried!)
> >
> >   73
> >
> >   Dave G0WBX.
> >
> >   > -----Original Message-----
> >   > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
> >   > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
> >   > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
> >   >
> >   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
> wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > Hi...
> >   > >
> >   > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP upload
> >   > isn't an
> >   > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like Alex
> >   > (G7KSE) I
> >   > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
> servers will
> >   > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you and
> >   > them, 15
> >   > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
> police
> >   > > complaining about something.
> >   > >
> >   > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
> >   > >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
> >   > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you are
> >   > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
> >   > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As for
> >   > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
> >   > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do some
> >   > more learning before trying again. Really good to know that
> >   > there is an expert looking on though.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > Dave (KA0SWT)
> >   > That stuff I posted was the full template from my wordpress
> >   > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP. Perhaps
> >   > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What theme
> >   > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
> >   >
> >   > Alex

Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a quick
check?  When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does it show up
as one process or two?  Is the CPU consumption reported by Task Manager
more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.

Thanks!

73, Pete N4ZR
the World Contest Station Database is back...
www.conteststations.com

Hi Pete,
When I run CW Skimmer it reports 7% CPU usage.  Windows Task Manager reports 1
instance of CW Skimmer and the CPU usage bounces between 8 and 12%

Computer uses Intel dual core 2.66 Gig processor and Windows XP.

73,
Frank - W6NEK
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Pete Smith
   To: skimmertalk@... ; SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com ;
dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:03 AM
   Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?


   Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a quick
   check?  When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does it show up
   as one process or two?  Is the CPU consumption reported by Task Manager
   more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.

   Thanks!

   73, Pete N4ZR
   the World Contest Station Database is back...
   www.conteststations.com



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   Yahoo! Groups Links




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi All
My Ionoprobe has just updated I have had no problems with it since earlier in
the year.
Bob G1BCZ

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Pete



You can download a whole suite of utilities from this Microsoft website, for
free. One of the applications that I would recommend is called 'Process
Explorer'. It shows all kinds of info.



http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx



Hope it helps.



Chris



   _____

From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: 11 November 2008 17:04
To: skimmertalk@...; SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com;
dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?



Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a quick
check? When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does it show up
as one process or two? Is the CPU consumption reported by Task Manager
more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.

Thanks!

73, Pete N4ZR
the World Contest Station Database is back...
www.conteststations.com





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks, Chris.  I have Process Explorer but have pretty much stopped using
it because it causes regular, total blanks in the USB data stream from my
SDR-IQ, which messes up decoding.  It also costs about 10 percent CPU
loading all by itself.  I now use an add-in called PRIO, which modifies the
regular Task Manager, uses much less CPU, and doesn't bother the USB data
stream.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 03:05 PM 11/11/2008, Chris wrote:
>Pete
>
>
>
>You can download a whole suite of utilities from this Microsoft website, for
>free. One of the applications that I would recommend is called 'Process
>Explorer'. It shows all kinds of info.
>
>
>
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx
>
>
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Pete Smith
>Sent: 11 November 2008 17:04
>To: skimmertalk@...; SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com;
>dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?
>
>
>
>Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a quick
>check? When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does it show up
>as one process or two? Is the CPU consumption reported by Task Manager
>more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.
>
>Thanks!
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>the World Contest Station Database is back...
>www.conteststations.com
>
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

OK Pete.I hadn't noticed PE was so hungry.and I hadn't noticed the
bit-slipping in the USB data stream because I'm only running Skimmer in 3kHz
mode!!! I'm so envious of your SDR-IQ, ha ha.



Do you have a weblink to download PRIO from?



73's



Chris



   _____

From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: 11 November 2008 20:10
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com; dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?



Thanks, Chris. I have Process Explorer but have pretty much stopped using
it because it causes regular, total blanks in the USB data stream from my
SDR-IQ, which messes up decoding. It also costs about 10 percent CPU
loading all by itself. I now use an add-in called PRIO, which modifies the
regular Task Manager, uses much less CPU, and doesn't bother the USB data
stream.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 03:05 PM 11/11/2008, Chris wrote:
>Pete
>
>
>
>You can download a whole suite of utilities from this Microsoft website,
for
>free. One of the applications that I would recommend is called 'Process
>Explorer'. It shows all kinds of info.
>
>
>
>http://technet.
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx>
microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx
>
>
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: dxatlas_group@ <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@
<mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Pete Smith
>Sent: 11 November 2008 17:04
>To: skimmertalk@ <mailto:skimmertalk%40contesting.com> contesting.com;
SDR-IQ@yahoogroups. <mailto:SDR-IQ%40yahoogroups.com> com;
>dxatlas_group@ <mailto:dxatlas_group%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?
>
>
>
>Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a quick
>check? When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does it show up
>as one process or two? Is the CPU consumption reported by Task Manager
>more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.
>
>Thanks!
>
>73, Pete N4ZR
>the World Contest Station Database is back...
>www.conteststations.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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At 04:20 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
>OK Pete.I hadn't noticed PE was so hungry.and I hadn't noticed the
>bit-slipping in the USB data stream because I'm only running Skimmer in 3kHz
>mode!!! I'm so envious of your SDR-IQ, ha ha.
>
>
>
>Do you have a weblink to download PRIO from?
>
>
Try PRIO
(<http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html>http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html)

73, Pete

Many thanks for the link Pete



Kind Regards



Chris



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From: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: 11 November 2008 21:46
To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?



At 04:20 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
>OK Pete.I hadn't noticed PE was so hungry.and I hadn't noticed the
>bit-slipping in the USB data stream because I'm only running Skimmer in
3kHz
>mode!!! I'm so envious of your SDR-IQ, ha ha.
>
>
>
>Do you have a weblink to download PRIO from?
>
>
Try PRIO
(<http://www.prnwatch <http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html>
.com/prio.html>http://www.prnwatch <http://www.prnwatch.com/prio.html>
.com/prio.html)

73, Pete





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My experience is different - I get TWO processes
entitled "CwSkimmer.exe" in Task Manager.  I've always suspected this
might be because one is running Omni Rig and the other (larger) is CW
Skimmer itself, but I don't know for sure.

This is on Windows XP SP3.

73 de Graham G3ZOD


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Frank LaFranco"
<flafranco@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Pete,
> When I run CW Skimmer it reports 7% CPU usage.  Windows Task
Manager reports 1 instance of CW Skimmer and the CPU usage bounces
between 8 and 12%
>
> Computer uses Intel dual core 2.66 Gig processor and Windows XP.
>
> 73,
> Frank - W6NEK
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Pete Smith
>   To: skimmertalk@... ; SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com ;
dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:03 AM
>   Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?
>
>
>   Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a
quick
>   check?  When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does
it show up
>   as one process or two?  Is the CPU consumption reported by Task
Manager
>   more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.
>
>   Thanks!
>
>   73, Pete N4ZR
>   the World Contest Station Database is back...
>   www.conteststations.com
>
>
>
>   ------------------------------------
>
>   Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Now that I've proved (to myself at least) that I'm not completely nuts, let
me prevail on your patience with a slightly more complicated question.

Under normal circumstances, I understand that CW Skimmer's own CPU usage
indicator will normally show a somewhat higher number than Task Manager's,
because it is looking at peaks from one application while Task Manager
looks at an average over a second of so of all the processes that are going on.

That being said, I find that there is a pretty logical and explicable
relationship among the Skimmer CPU number, the bandwidth set on the Radio
tab, the number of decoders, and the number of candidate data streams (the
last two are the "98 of 456 decoders" numbers).

Incidentally, it's little-known, but the Sample Rate choice on the Radio
tab *does* affect both the bandwidth covered by an SDR-IQ when used with
Skimmer and (therefore) the CPU demand.  To verify this, bring up Skimmer
and change from 48 to 96 KHz.  You'll see the CPU loading go 'way up.

Finally, here's the question.  Have you ever noticed a situation in which
the CPU utilization of the total of the two Skimmer processes) as reported
by Task Manager is much higher than the CPU utilization being reported by
Skimmer?  I see this all the time, but have not been able to figure out
what causes it, or what makes it go away.  All I know for sure is that
sometimes something is happening to impose a much higher load on the CPU
for a given number of decoders than is the case at other times.  Sometimes
I'll see this as much higher CPU utilization in 48 KHz mode than in 96 KHz
mode.  Sometimes I can cause things to revert to normal by changing Sample
rates, stopping and restarting the waterfall, or restarting the program.

One good question that Alex asked was whether it might be a mistake by the
Task Manager.  All I can say is that I don't think so, because there is a
definite slowing of other programs when Task Manager says utilization is
over 85 percent, even though Skimmer itself says it is only using 50-55
percent.  Moreover, I see the same phenomenon in Process Explorer, which is
a completely separate program - I can't be sure that it doesn't measure CPU
utilization the same way, of course, but it seems to be a stretch, because
Process Explorer was not developed by Microsoft.

Anyway that's the question - if you could, just keep your eyes peeled, or
run some tests, whatever you have time for.

Thanks and

73, Pete N4ZR
the World Contest Station Database is back...
www.conteststations.com

I show Omnirig as a separate process in Task Manager - which, come to think
of it, is pretty odd, because I set both radios to "none" on the CAT tab -
why should it be running at all?

So far, everyone has reported two processes except Frank - I think he may
have been looking at the Applications tab instead.

73, Pete N4ZR

At 05:02 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote:
>My experience is different - I get TWO processes
>entitled "CwSkimmer.exe" in Task Manager.  I've always suspected this
>might be because one is running Omni Rig and the other (larger) is CW
>Skimmer itself, but I don't know for sure.
>
>This is on Windows XP SP3.
>
>73 de Graham G3ZOD
>
>
>--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Frank LaFranco"
><flafranco@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Pete,
> > When I run CW Skimmer it reports 7% CPU usage.  Windows Task
>Manager reports 1 instance of CW Skimmer and the CPU usage bounces
>between 8 and 12%
> >
> > Computer uses Intel dual core 2.66 Gig processor and Windows XP.
> >
> > 73,
> > Frank - W6NEK
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Pete Smith
> >   To: skimmertalk@... ; SDR-IQ@yahoogroups.com ;
>dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:03 AM
> >   Subject: [dxatlas] Is CW Skimmer twins?
> >
> >
> >   Those who are using VE3NEA's CW Skimmer, can you help me with a
>quick
> >   check?  When you look in Task Manager with Skimmer running, Does
>it show up
> >   as one process or two?  Is the CPU consumption reported by Task
>Manager
> >   more or less than that being reported by Skimmer itself.
> >
> >   Thanks!
> >
> >   73, Pete N4ZR
> >   the World Contest Station Database is back...
> >   www.conteststations.com
> >
> >
> >
> >   ------------------------------------
> >
> >   Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Any news on the web downloads? It takes forever to populate the list.
I saw an old installation (1.2?) that worked and that was after
DX-summit changed its layout so I'm really confused.

Today I use 1.3 with both web and telnet and sometimes it seems like
web is working but normally spots originate from telnet sources.

73 de Andy in Lapland


--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Pascal Breugelmans" <pa1br@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "wd4elg_base" <mlunday@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nothing happening, was working perfectly just 2 days ago.  FILTER
> is OFF
> >
> > Mark, WD4ELG  http://wd4elg.net
> >
>
> Dear Mark,
> I found this earlier message about our topic:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> While the owners of the DXSummit site are playing with their data
> formats,
> Band Master cannot parse their output. I have modified the program to
> understand their current format, but I don't want to release it until
> I know
> that the format will not change again. For the time being, please use
> Telnet
> clusters instead of the Web cluster.
>
> 73 Alex VE3NEA
>

Dave,

We seem to have had very similar experiences with FTP and the
uploads. Although I think I can safely say that you know much more
about why it does what it does.

My flavour of the month or rather last few months has been this one
(http://www.glenn.delahoy.com/software/index.shtml)

I have set it up with two options. One to do a detect and syncronise
and a 'do it now' option. From my limited knowledge it seems to
detect a change. I set it wait 30 seconds after that to make sure
there was no conflicts with the very old laptop I use. Then start
the FTP connection. Do the synchronising and then cut the connection.

Most of the time it works quite well be every now and again it falls
over and I suspect the PC is at fault as it is very slow.

Just about all the other software needed more manual attention than
was worth it. This seems to need the least amount of effort on my
set up.

I am looking at making a large change to the set up by building a HF
lite softrock SDR and using a pico-itx m'board to run the station in
place of the aging laptop and ic-703 and I'm hoping that this will
solve some of the pc issues around the aging IT. It will take a
while to build the SDR as I've never had any experience in SMD's and
I almost lost one on the carpet yesterday morning!

After that I think I might take you up on the setting up a web
server of my own thing, just as long as I can get wordpress to run
on it.

Alex

--- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Alex (G7KSE)
>
> Yes, that is much the same experience I had.  The problem is not
with
> the auto uploaders, but with the FTP servers at the website, they
will
> timeout and drop the link if there is no traffic for a (short)
period of
> time...   As we have no control of that end, we are "stuffed" as
we'd
> say.
>
> If there is an automatic FTP uploaded, that will itself close the
link
> when the job is done, and then make a new connection when the next
batch
> is ready, that is what we need, even on a file by file basis if
need be.
>
> I have the tools to make such a program, but I don't sadly have the
> spare time for that (or many other things I'd like to do, not just
> radio, PC's etc)
>
> There are two conflicting requirements.   To close the link when
the
> batch work is done, and to detect when exactly that work is
done.   None
> of the automatic uploaders I've tried can it seems do either of
them.
>
> I did some experiments with WinSCP and a FTP server of my own, and
if
> you configure the server NOT to time out the clients connection,
then
> WinSCP, AutoFTP etc work just fine all the time.   BUT...
>
> If the connection is lost, (a network "burp" etc) then the server
will
> not close the connection, and eventualy will exhaust it's network
> sockets resources, so you can see why just about all FTP servers
will
> timeout a client at some point if there is no traffic.   That and
most
> clients inability to cleanly detect a failed link, and remake it,
is the
> problem.
>
> The other problem, telling when the batch job is done, in some
ways is
> easy, but if it's just sitting there monitoring the file system for
> changes, it has no way of telling that things are "done" for now,
just
> because no changes have been made for a while.  Unless you found
one, I
> have not found one that will itself drop the link to the server
cleanly,
> after a period of no local changes.
>
> Scheduled uploaders.  Is probably the overall best way to go at the
> moment.   They should connect to the server, shovel the data, and
> disconnect, nothing else.  The problem is to get the schedule
timing
> right so the website does not fall too far behind Faros, and
conversely
> not to create too many unneeded updates.   I guess if Faros is set
to
> update the data files every quater hour say, then the sheduler
could run
> every 7 1/2 minutes.   Just an example, I have Faros updating the
GIF's
> every hour here, so a sheduled upload every half hour, or
triggered at
> specific minutes past the hour perhaps.  Then you need to
synchronise
> the PC's clock too, more fun and games!...
>
>
> 73.
>
> Dave G0WBX
>
>
>
> > Messages
> > __________
> > 1. You have received an important Message!
> >     Posted by: "hysfbce" hysfbce@... hysfbce
> >     Date: Sun Nov 9, 2008 5:59 pm ((PST))
> >
> > You have received an important Message! Check it here:
> > ht tp://byd yvfu.zo omshare.com/fi les/ke nny.htm
> >
> Yeah, as if I'm ever going to click on that!  I broke the link
just to
> make sure...
> Ignore it folks!  No matter how well protected you may think you
are, if
> you cause your system to down load a malicious web page, you can
still
> get a nasty suprise, and not always imediatly!
> I'm not saying that page is know to be bad, but this is how the
bad guys
> work...
> >
> > Messages in this topic (1)
> > __________
> > 2a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
> >     Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@... g7kse
> >     Date: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:49 am ((PST))
> >
> > Where do I start. I tried a whole heap of different client.
> >
> > WinSCP - Did the upload fine but timed out and couldn't keep
> > alive AutoFTP from Primasoft - As WinSCP AUTOftp Manager -
> > Worked but being married to a Scot a free solution was what I
> > was after.
> > CoreFTP - Done on a schedule rather than as a syncro service.
> > Worked well.
> > FTP Synchronizer - Expensive but worked
> > Carbon FTP - Never got off the ground as I found the Glen
> > Delahoy AutoFTP
> >
> > I struggled so hard to make the keep alive part working that
> > I ended up giving up and ended up using a macro recorder and
> > scheduler in XP to run it. The ftp part was the biggest
> > headache and still isn't failsafe on my system.
> >
> > I'm planning on a pc upgrade so I'm hoping that if I switch
> > to a better motherboard then it'll not give out the errors so
> > regularly
> >
> > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <dave@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Alex,  The only problem I had was the time out and
disconnect
> > on idle. I need a keep-alive feature I guess. I have another
> > FTP program that does that but won't upload on file change.
> > What other FTP clients are available other that SCR?
> > >
> > > Thanks a million,
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Dave Baxter
> > >   To: dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:34 AM
> > >   Subject: RE: [dxatlas] Web Upload for Faros
> > >
> > >
> > >   Alex (G7KSE)
> > >
> > >   If you ever need to host your own Faros page, let me know,
and
> > I'll walk
> > >   you through what I had to do, not only with the mini web
server
> > program,
> > >   but the Router "Adjustments" needed to allow it all to work,
and
> > stay
> > >   secure.
> > >
> > >   With a suitable PC, it should be posible to have Faros, and
the
> > web page
> > >   server all on one box. It's a pitty it still needs an
external
> > NTP
> > >   source, or you could use it when out portable away from
the 'net.
> > >   (Mobile GPRS or 3G based 'net, does not cut the mustard, oh
how
> > I've
> > >   tried!)
> > >
> > >   73
> > >
> > >   Dave G0WBX.
> > >
> > >   > -----Original Message-----
> > >   > 1a. Re: Web Upload for Faros
> > >   > Posted by: "g7kse" g7kse@ g7kse
> > >   > Date: Tue Nov 4, 2008 1:36 am ((PST))
> > >   >
> > >   > --- In dxatlas_group@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Baxter" <dave@>
> > wrote:
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Hi...
> > >   > >
> > >   > > At the moment I host my own web site so the auto FTP
upload
> > >   > isn't an
> > >   > > issue for me, yet. However I did it this way as like
Alex
> > >   > (G7KSE) I
> > >   > > had lots of problems with WinSCP, not least that most
> > servers will
> > >   > > auto disconnect you, if there is no traffic between you
and
> > >   > them, 15
> > >   > > minutes was way too long! Any less, and I'd risk the ISP
> > police
> > >   > > complaining about something.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Dave G0WBX (G8KBV)
> > >   > >
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > Hi Dave (G0WBX). As you can see with the script I'm still
> > >   > with Wordpress, VE3SUN's pages are really useful if you
are
> > >   > build pages up from scratch and I totally agree with you
> > >   > about Kompozer (Nvu). Easy to use and well supported. As
for
> > >   > the self host. I tried setting something up locally and I
> > >   > have to say that it was beyond me. Perhaps I need to do
some
> > >   > more learning before trying again. Really good to know
that
> > >   > there is an expert looking on though.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > Dave (KA0SWT)
> > >   > That stuff I posted was the full template from my
wordpress
> > >   > site. I see also that you've given it a try on XAMPP.
Perhaps
> > >   > I should do the same and see if it'll work for me. What
theme
> > >   > are you usung and I'll try and copy that on my machine.
> > >   >
> > >   > Alex
>

Hi Andy,

V.1.3 is not supposed to work with the web cluster. This version was
modified to download spots from DX Summit in their new format but,
unfortunately, this format changed several times after 1.3 was released. The
DX Summit team announced yesterday that they are now providing the spot data
in the old format on a special page on their new web site. I changed Band
Master to work with that page, and a brief test confirmed that the page
works fine. The updated version of Band Master will be released shortly.

73 Alex VE3NEA




----- Original Message -----

Any news on the web downloads? It takes forever to populate the list.
I saw an old installation (1.2?) that worked and that was after
DX-summit changed its layout so I'm really confused.

Today I use 1.3 with both web and telnet and sometimes it seems like
web is working but normally spots originate from telnet sources.

73 de Andy in Lapland

When a station a shown to work in split mode, my icom706MKIIG is put
in plit mode but the TX freq is not set correctly but kept the same as
the rx freq.
73, Robert

Thanks for a speedy reply Alex!

Looking forward to download the new version. BM is my favourite
cluster tool. I have it integrated with Ham Radio deLuxe / Ionoprobe /
DX Atlas and hamCap. Really nice!

Cheers!

Andy

Hello all,

Not certain if this is the right list for this, if not please point me
somewhere more appropriate - this is the list linked from the CW
Skimmer site.

I've got a (trial) copy of CW Skimmer running with an SDR-IQ. However,
it's "stopping" itself almost seemingly at random (so far, I've only
got a couple days experience so not enough to correlate yet).

Runtimes have been 3hrs, 7.5hrs, 5 hrs, 11.5 hrs and 30 minutes (have
a logger running).

I do have a script I wrote in order to automagically QSY from band to
band via telnet commands, however this behavior was happening before I
brought that into the picture.

What happens is the waterfall just goes blank. No error messages, no
program crashes, the waterfall display just stops. It keeps the
connections to all my telnet apps open (and I can see them in the
bottom of the window as normal). Clicking the "Start / Stop Radio"
button twice (presumably once to stop / once to start?) brings it back
to life.

I didn't see documented anywhere that during the trial mode it was
time limited - but am willing to accept that, obviously. I just wanted
to make sure this wasn't indicative of something within my setup that
may not work out before I bought it.

Adam
KC0YLK

No, it is not time-limited.  This used to be a problem with the very
earliest SDR-IQ version of Skimmer - are you sure you have the latest of
both the Skimmer and the SDR-IQ activeX control?

73, Pete N4ZR

At 08:42 AM 11/13/2008, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>Not certain if this is the right list for this, if not please point me
>somewhere more appropriate - this is the list linked from the CW
>Skimmer site.
>
>I've got a (trial) copy of CW Skimmer running with an SDR-IQ. However,
>it's "stopping" itself almost seemingly at random (so far, I've only
>got a couple days experience so not enough to correlate yet).
>
>Runtimes have been 3hrs, 7.5hrs, 5 hrs, 11.5 hrs and 30 minutes (have
>a logger running).
>
>I do have a script I wrote in order to automagically QSY from band to
>band via telnet commands, however this behavior was happening before I
>brought that into the picture.
>
>What happens is the waterfall just goes blank. No error messages, no
>program crashes, the waterfall display just stops. It keeps the
>connections to all my telnet apps open (and I can see them in the
>bottom of the window as normal). Clicking the "Start / Stop Radio"
>button twice (presumably once to stop / once to start?) brings it back
>to life.
>
>I didn't see documented anywhere that during the trial mode it was
>time limited - but am willing to accept that, obviously. I just wanted
>to make sure this wasn't indicative of something within my setup that
>may not work out before I bought it.
>
>Adam
>KC0YLK
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Thanks, everyone, for your repoorts.

This morning I went to restart my computer after some Windows updates, and
"bang", Skimmer was back up to using 70 percent of resources on an
almost-empty band.  After a lot of parameter switching and program stopping
and starting, with no discernible magic pattern, I finally got it to settle
down.  Currently, with 92 out of 453 decoders running across 14000-14096
KHz bandwidth, and Skimmer minimized, Skimmer is using a total of 17
percent of my 2.66 GHz Celeron.  With Skimmer full-screen, utilization
jumps to ~40 percent across the two processes, and Skimmer reports 41
percent; if the abnormally high CPU utilization were present, the task
manager CPU value Would have been 85-100 percent.

What does this say?  To me it clearly indicates the presence of a subtle
and darned difficult-to-find bug in the initialization process somewhere,
that can affect you adversely any time the Skimmer is running on a PC with
other applications.  Until that is found and fixed, I'd recommend the
following to minimize impact on other programs, such as loggers, running at
the same time:

* keep Skimmer minimized whenever possible, or at least keep it as small as
possible.  Use Skimmer's Telnet command function to control band changes
from inside your logging program, or use WD5EAE's script-based control
program to do that for you.

* keep your Scan Rate as low as possible - don't use 192 unless you are
running Skimmer on a dedicated machine.  96 is plenty - you can set the
Skimmer frequency 38 KHz above the bottom band edge and cover 000-096,
which is all you need.

*  if it comes up in a condition where the task manager says that CPU usage
is significantly higher than Skimmer itself reports, try changing the
Sample rate, Switching to SoftRock and back to SDR-IQ, or vice versa,
stopping and starting the waterfall, and stopping and starting
Skimmer.  Try doing parameter changes both with the waterfall running and
after pausing it.1  After each activity check the task manager and see if
the CPU utilization has reverted to being less than what Skimmer
reports.  Be sure to wait a few seconds each time for Skimmer to settle
down before you reach a conclusion.  Eventually, if it reverts to normal,
don't stop and restart Skimmer.  Set your Sampling rate back to what you
want, if it isn't already, and hopefully it won't go nuts again.

* Adjust your choice of bandplans on the Misc tab, as necessary edit your
band plans in the bandplan.ini file, and be sure that you have "Decode only
in CW Segments" checked.  If you look in the bandplan.ini file, you'll see
ways to improve on the number of spurious decoders that Skimmer attempts to
deploy on RTTY and SSB signals.

This is important because a large share of Skimmer's CPU demand is due to
efforts to determine whether each candidate decoder that is deployed is
actually seeing anything that is decode-able.  For example, I edited my CW
Contest bandplan to stop 40 CW at 7040 and 20 CW at 14070.  With that
limitation, under essentially the same conditions as reported above,
Skimmer is displaying 94 of 94 decoders, reporting its own utilization as
36-38 percent, and task manager reports it as only 11-16 percent.  Sure
does make my other programs run better!

73, Pete N4ZR
the World Contest Station Database is back...
www.conteststations.com