Blessings for a peaceful New Year to you all.  Let world peace be the goal of
the 21st Century.  Sue Jeffares, New York USA

hello to all of you in 2000 from me, still in 1999, with 12 hours to go.
Happy New Year, Century, Millennium!  Peace to all.
Betty Fitterman, New York, USA

There's 1 minute to go before 2000 - so I'm off-line at the moment - but
I'll log on just before midnight - and if the world hasn't vanished into
oblivion - I'll be first to wish you all HAPPY NEW YEAR


Dave
The Wild Colonial Boy

Thanks for your research in the "mother land". I'd appreciate a copy of what
you have obtained from your sources in England. I have a great deal of
information from this side of the Atlantic on my branch of the "Durnfords".
I also have a copy from the Royal Engineers Journal for September, 1933 on
the Durnford involvement with that military organization.

Please forward the information in a zipped file. It will take less time to
forward it that way.

Thanks again.

Percival Durnford Burrrows
339 Horsham Ave.,
Willowdale, Ontario  M2R 1G8
Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Brown <donald.brown1@...>
To: <durnford-family@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 9:44 AM
Subject: [durnford-family] UK GRO indexes.


> As part of my research into my family history I have been extracting the
> records for DURNFORDS from the UK General Records Office indexes.
> Whilst not yet a complete list, what I have is available as a M/S Excel
file
> if anyone wants them.
>
> Births            1847 - 1943.   882 entries    File size 103KB or 30KB
> zipped
>
> Marriages    1837 - 1943.    691 entries                     85 KB or 25KB
> zipped
>
> Deaths         1856 - 1983      841 entries                    109KB or
32KB
> zipped
>
> If anybody wants a copy send me an email and say if you want zipped or
not.
>
>
> Don Brown.
>
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Hi Fran -- Betty Fitterman here.  Chappaqua, New York (near Manhattan).  My
ICQ is 45302761.  Would love to chat after the holidays.  I'll look for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful Christmas.   B

I have ICQ.  #45302761 --  Betty Fitterman   Would love to chat after the
holidays.  Just got back from Toronto -- loved it.  B

Anyone interested in setting up an ICQ live chat?  If you don't have
ICQ you can download it free, naturally I don't have the website
address in front of me here at work.  We can use the calendar on this
site to set up dates.

Cynde

Don - hi, happy holidays.  Hope all is well.  I would love the files, but
don'[t have an unzip here.  The office does, however, so could you send to
devitofitterman@... -- or if that doesn't work, devitofitterman.com.
We're switching over and it may be completed, just not sure.

Yes, there is a Mr. -- He's John and has been my lovely "other" for almost 32
years.  Which surprises me, because as you know, I am only 36.  Hmm.  How
about you?  Is there a Mrs.?

Merry Christmas with love and best wishes.  Betty

As part of my research into my family history I have been extracting the
records for DURNFORDS from the UK General Records Office indexes.
Whilst not yet a complete list, what I have is available as a M/S Excel file
if anyone wants them.

Births            1847 - 1943.   882 entries    File size 103KB or 30KB
zipped

Marriages    1837 - 1943.    691 entries                     85 KB or 25KB
zipped

Deaths         1856 - 1983      841 entries                    109KB or 32KB
zipped

If anybody wants a copy send me an email and say if you want zipped or not.


Don Brown.

There is an Alice M Durnford listed in the index of deaths as having died
aged 43 in 1928.   This entry was recorded at Romford which of course is
very close to Hornchurch.   Possibly the one you are looking for ?

Don Brown
Pwllheli
North Wales.

Hello Betty,
I'm the one that runs the Durnford family newsgroup and website.  Thomas
probably told you about me.  Welcome!  I automatically get a copy of
everything that goes into the newsgroup.  We're just getting it off the
ground so it's not as busy as I would like it to be.  There are about 50-60
Durnfords in our group right now.  I will add your name to my address book
so that you will automatically get any updates, etc. from me.  If you have
any information you would like to see on the website please send it to me,
photo's, genealogical info, etc.  Again, welcome!

Cynde Durnford Branecki

----- Original Message -----
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To: <durnford-family@eGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 2:58 PM
Subject: [durnford-family] just joined!


: Hello to one and all.  I am Elizabeth Jeffares Fitterman (call me
: Betty), eldest daughter of Edna Durnford Jeffares, granddaughter of
: Thomas Durnford who came to New York, USA.  My cousin is Thomas
: Durnford of New Hampshire, USA., son of Edna's brother John Durnford.
: The third Durnford sibling in my mother's family was Gertrude, who
: lived in NY and also Florida.  I have had the pleasure of making Don
: Brown's acquaintance through cousin Tom.  If anyone would like to
: correspond with me, I would be delighted to do so.  My direct e-mail is
: bfitterman@....  I believe I am related to George Adams Durnford of
: Buffalo.  His grandfather Harry was probably my grandfather's brother.
: I would love to hear from you, George.  Regards to all.  Betty
: Fitterman, Briarcliff Manor, New York, USA
:
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Hello to one and all.  I am Elizabeth Jeffares Fitterman (call me
Betty), eldest daughter of Edna Durnford Jeffares, granddaughter of
Thomas Durnford who came to New York, USA.  My cousin is Thomas
Durnford of New Hampshire, USA., son of Edna's brother John Durnford.
The third Durnford sibling in my mother's family was Gertrude, who
lived in NY and also Florida.  I have had the pleasure of making Don
Brown's acquaintance through cousin Tom.  If anyone would like to
correspond with me, I would be delighted to do so.  My direct e-mail is
bfitterman@....  I believe I am related to George Adams Durnford of
Buffalo.  His grandfather Harry was probably my grandfather's brother.
I would love to hear from you, George.  Regards to all.  Betty
Fitterman, Briarcliff Manor, New York, USA

According to family lore one of the Durnfords on my family tree (Henry
William, born 1865 at All Cannings, Wiltshire England)  went to America and
was a Warden of Sing Sing prison where he was killed in a riot ( maybe about
1920).   I understand that all the records for Sing Sing are held at the New
York State Archives and may be only accessible only in person.

I have written to them asking if they could help but no reply..   Does
anyone in the group ever go there  and could maybe look for me ?  Its a long
way from the U K to New York for just one enquiry !  Otherwise any
suggestions would be welcome

Don Brown

North Wales
U.K.

Hi Folk's;

A Few more from the Hermitage Anglican (CoE) Marriage Records:

Aug. 24, 1882 at Rencontre Samuel Collins 24 m. Catherine Durnford 22
both of Rencontre
Aug. 18, 1884 at Francois Thomas Dollimont 24 m. Maria Durnford -- of
Francois
Aug. 21, 1884 at Rencontre John Ball 32 m. Edith Durnford 18 of
Rencontre
Sep. 19, 1885 at Hermitage John Cains 24 of Great Jervois m. Sarah
Durnford 21 of Rencontre
Aug. 19, 1886 at Rencontre Abraham Durnford 33 of Rencontre m. Ann Thorn
22 of New Harbour
Aug. 20, 1887 at Francois Martin Carter 23 m. Ann Durnford 19 both of
Francois

Cheers :-)
--
Bill Crant, PO Box 86, 24 Lorna Crt., Elmsdale, NS B0N 1M0
Phone (902) 883-8634
Founder - Newfoundland's Grand Banks
http://www.infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/project21/
or http://www.wordplay.com/ngb/

Hi Folk's;

Here's 10 years worth of Durnford marriages, sorry I couldn't read all
the dates and places, but that's old records for ya! I should have the
next ten years done soon.

DATE OF MAR  PLACE OF  MARR NAMES   FROM WHERE

1871

? 30 1871 Richard's Hr  Robert Durnford  ?
     Elizabeth Clothier  Rencontre

1872

Sept 11 1872  Hermitage  Walter Pink   Cape La Hune
     Rebecca Durnford

1873

Sept ? 1873    Isaac Fudge   New Harbour
     Susan Durnford

Sept 1873    George Fudge   New Harbour
     Hannah Durnford

1877


Sept 5 1877  Hermitage Stephen Spencer (21)  West Cul de Sac
     Caroline Durnford (16)  ?

1879

Aug 22 1879  Francois  Jabez Durnford 23  Francois
     Esther Dollmount 19  Francois

Aug 25 1879  New Harbour  Robert Durnford 23  Francois
     Catherine Marsden 19  Francois

Aug 25 1879  New Harbour  Edward Carter 21  Francois
     Hannah Durnford 21  Francois

1880

Sept 8 1880  Hermitage  Thomas Skinner 21  Richard's Harbour
     Esther Durnford 21  Rencontre

Cheers :-)
--
Bill Crant, PO Box 86, 24 Lorna Crt., Elmsdale, NS B0N 1M0
Phone (902) 883-8634
Founder - Newfoundland's Grand Banks
http://www.infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/project21/
or http://www.wordplay.com/ngb/

.ged is the universal system that all genealogical databases such as family
tree maker use.  So if you have a genealogical database you can import and
export data real easy and it's compact and easy to email.  All the
information I have on the website and more is in my family tree maker
database and I can make a copy for anyone who wants one.  Much easier than
manually importing all that info.

Cynde





-----Original Message-----
From: watsonflt@... <watsonflt@...>
To: durnford-family@egroups.com <durnford-family@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 3:35 AM
Subject: [durnford-family] Re: Ged files


:Cynde
:
:What is a Gedfile?
:
:Fran (Durnford) Watson
:Renfrew, Ontario

Cynde

What is a Gedfile?

Fran (Durnford) Watson
Renfrew, Ontario
> If anyone wants a Gedfile of the various Durnfords please contact me,
> I'll be glad to email what I have.
>
> Cynde
>
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Hi Chandra:

Just a word of greeting from the "Great White North" although right now it
is quite warm and humid.

My cousin, Ted Durnford, who will be 75 next month, is an electrical
engineer. He graduated from the University of Toronto after serving overseas
in the Royal Canadian Navy during the war years. He was chief administrator
for several years prior to his retirement from Scarborough Public Utilities
(our hydro - your electric commisiion). He lives outside the Toronto area
and is still active in some of the "Hydro" meetings.

It is great to meet this way. My mother died last September at the age of
100 which she reached on July 14th, 1998.

Perhaps in time we can get the various branches of the Durnfords arranged so
that we can see how  we are all related.

One item that might be of interest is the video "Zulu Dawn" which features
Burt Lancaster portraying Col. Durnford of the Royal Engineers in the
British conflict with the Zulus during the late 1800s.

Percival Durnford Burrows
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: cdurnford@... <cdurnford@...>
To: durnford-family@egroups.com <durnford-family@egroups.com>
Date: August 27, 1999 1:44 AM
Subject: [durnford-family] Re: Durn4d at College


>cdurnfor-@... wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/durnford-family/?start=4
>> Hi Durnfords,
>>
>> I'm Chanda Durnford - grandaughter of Dewey Foster Durnford, Jr., the
>> Marine Corps Ace fighter pilot.  Dewey's children (Vicki, Kathi, Thom)
>> and grandchildren (Chanda, Parker, Coleman) are alive and well in the
>> South - Virginia, Florida and Georgia.
>>
>> My mom Vicki lives in Chester, Virginia.  I am 20 years old, and right
>> now I am in Troy, New York, at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  This
>> is my 5th semester studying Civil Engineering.
>>
>> If you haven't introduced yourself yet, send us a quick note like this
>> one.
>
>Looks like Chanda is following in the family footsteps, considering how
>many of them were in the Royal Engineers!
>
>
>
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>

Back in Jan someone sent me a ged file with Newfoundland names such as
Bagnell & Day.  At the time I didn't really look at it.  When I did
there was only 1 Durnford and I thought now why do I have this until I
realized it was my aunt and I had the complete history of her husband's
side of the family!  So if anyone remembers sending this to me please
contact me.  Now isn't this proof that you should take care of the
important things first!

Cynde

If anyone wants a Gedfile of the various Durnfords please contact me,
I'll be glad to email what I have.

Cynde

cdurnfor-@... wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/durnford-family/?start=4
> Hi Durnfords,
>
> I'm Chanda Durnford - grandaughter of Dewey Foster Durnford, Jr., the
> Marine Corps Ace fighter pilot.  Dewey's children (Vicki, Kathi, Thom)
> and grandchildren (Chanda, Parker, Coleman) are alive and well in the
> South - Virginia, Florida and Georgia.
>
> My mom Vicki lives in Chester, Virginia.  I am 20 years old, and right
> now I am in Troy, New York, at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  This
> is my 5th semester studying Civil Engineering.
>
> If you haven't introduced yourself yet, send us a quick note like this
> one.

Looks like Chanda is following in the family footsteps, considering how
many of them were in the Royal Engineers!

Hi Dave ( and everyone else )

You wrote

>
>Further down the line my grandfather was William Walter Durnford who for
>some reason I can't imagine moved from Evercreech with two his brothers
>and came to live in grimey Leigh in Lancashire - a coalmining and cotton
>spinning town.
>
>

They had a lot to answer for those old Durnfords !   My grandfather moved
from glorious countryside in Wiltshire to Salford in Lancashire, not far
from Leigh as you will know. He was a guard on the railway .   Like you I
guess, I couldnt wait to get out of the grimy city and have wandered around
the UK since 1953. Now thank goodness I live with a view of the sea on three
sides and the Snowdonia mountains on the other.  Mind you when we were in
Wiltshire recently I could almost have been tempted to move back to the
place of our ancestors, it is so very nice down there.


>I wondered if you knew anything about the Rampisham, Evercreech, Shepton
>Mallet areas of DORSET & Somerset as I would like to establish a
>connection - vertically or horizontally with any other Durnford Clan.


Well the immediate answer would be no.  BUT.  The Durnford that I referred
to from London and South Wales, (another David), isnt computerised and asked
me to search for his great grandparents and their son.  I found them in
South Wales but the g - grandfather William had been born in Great Toller,
Dorset (1811)and his wife Dinah in Punknowle Dorset(1814). Their son however
had been born in Milston, Wiltshire.

There is no Great Toller on the maps of Dorset nowadays.

I searched for possible relatives in Dorset in 1881 and found to my surprise
that there were a few born in Toller, Little Toller and Great Toller but by
then living all over Dorset.  But where are these places today?

However one of these Durnfords, Joseph Durnford born 1805 in Toller was
living at Rampisham Street, Rampisham, Dorset.  There may be a connection.
I intend to do some research for David along these lines but not for a while
yet, I am too busy with my own tree.

By the way one of these Durnfords was the head attendant at the 'Dorset
County Lunatic Asylum'.  Hope it wasnt catching.   I also found a Durnford
as an inmate at the ' Devizes Lunatic Asylum' in Wiltshire and (later)
another that was the bailiff looking after the same place.   Maybe thats why
they were crazy enough to move to grimey Lancashire ?

Thats enough for now. Hope it wasnt too boring everyone.

You might like a look at my web site. Nothing about Durnfords and lots of
boring stuff but a little about me !

http://freespace.virgin.net/donald.brown1/homepage

Don Brown
North Wales. UK

Don Brown wrote:
>
> Hello everyone
>
> My mother was a Durnford so I hope that qualifies me for the group.
> ..............................................
> I am also in touch with another Durnford living in London whose family moved
> from Dorset ( and Wiltshire on the way) to South Wales.  Anyone got any
> South Wales connections
.............................................................................

Hi Don (and everyone else !!)

My records of my immediate famuily only go back to my great great
grandparents Robert Durnford 1787-1868 who married Elizabeth
Bartlet-Soper (1789 - ?) in 1810 - and they lived at Slough Farm in
Rampisham (between Yeovil and Dorchester) DORSET.

It appears their son Henry took over the farm when the old man died -
but he was apparently a bit too fond of his grog, went bankrupt and
moved to Foscombe Cottage in Evercreech in Somerset.

Further down the line my grandfather was William Walter Durnford who for
some reason I can't imagine moved from Evercreech with two his brothers
and came to live in grimey Leigh in Lancashire - a coalmining and cotton
spinning town.

I noticed there was a Leigh not far from Rampisham and my theory is that
was the Leigh they were aiming for - but they turned left instead of
right and finished up at the Leigh up North ! Maybe they had a duff
compass.

William Walter my grandfather - who moved to and remained in LEIGH where
he
married my Grandmother Margaret Jane Page.

One of their sons - Thomas, was my father who died 7 years ago here in
New
Zealand where I emigrated to in 1974 and my parents followed seven years
later.

My Mother (Lily 82) lived with me in Christchurch until she died five
weeks ago.

I wondered if you knew anything about the Rampisham, Evercreech, Shepton
Mallet areas of DORSET & Somerset as I would like to establish a
connection - vertically or horizontally with any other Durnford Clan.

Regards  Dave Durnford    Christchurch New Zealand

Hello everyone

My mother was a Durnford so I hope that qualifies me for the group.  I have
been researching my Durnford ancestors here in the UK since May this year
and found the web site after a few months of searching through parish
registers etc. . To my delight I was able to tie up our family with one of
the trees on the  Genealogy page.  Namely Thomas Durnford of New
ampshire.( page 6). We share the same g-g-g-g-g-grandfather !
I am also in touch with another researcher in the UK who is related to us .
We have shared much information already and we are hoping that any info that
Thomas can exchange with us will really shed light on happenings in the
past.
We have researched our branch of the family back to the 1600's in All
Cannings, a village in Wiltshire near Devizes. From there they have spread
throughout Wiltshire and to London, Manchester, and many other places in
England.  I myself have ended up in North Wales.   We now find that they
have gone to the States as well.  Who knows where else ?

I now have 267 people on the tree and it is growing almost daily. Perhaps
someone else out there is related to us?

I would be pleased to try looking up anything I can here in the UK if anyone
wants something on their ancestors. Anything anyone has that they think
might apply to our line would be very welcome.

I am also in touch with another Durnford living in London whose family moved
from Dorset ( and Wiltshire on the way) to South Wales.  Anyone got any
South Wales connections ?

Don Brown

Mynytho,
Pwllheli,
North Wales   UK

Hi Folk's;

Just wanted those interested to know I have posted a few photo's of
Ramea Come Home Year and Rose Blanche at these URL's;
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9534/ramea99.htm
and
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9534/roseblanche.htm
Both Communities have Durnford families living there and these are part
of my south coast collection, I have a few hundred to post at the Ramea
site, but that means I need a few hours yet!
Cheers :-)
--
Bill Crant, PO Box 86, 24 Lorna Crt., Elmsdale, NS B0N 1M0
Phone (902) 883-8634
Founder - Newfoundland's Grand Banks
http://www.infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/project21/
or http://www.wordplay.com/ngb/

Hi Durnfords,

I'm Chanda Durnford - grandaughter of Dewey Foster Durnford, Jr., the
Marine Corps Ace fighter pilot.  Dewey's children (Vicki, Kathi, Thom)
and grandchildren (Chanda, Parker, Coleman) are alive and well in the
South - Virginia, Florida and Georgia.

My mom Vicki lives in Chester, Virginia.  I am 20 years old, and right
now I am in Troy, New York, at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  This
is my 5th semester studying Civil Engineering.

If you haven't introduced yourself yet, send us a quick note like this
one.
I want to know who you all are!!

Hi everyone, thought you would be interested in exchanging ideas
through a newsgroup I set up.  This way you can exchange ideas and news
directly to each other.  I'm the moderator but as far as I'm concerned
this is an open forum for family stories, research, info, etc.
Consider this our family party line!

Cheers!

Cynde

Hi Folk's;

Just returned from a three week trek to the South Coast of Newfoundland,
visited both Francois and Rencontre in a small 21 ft fishing boat. I had
hoped to bring back photo's so I purchased one of those disposable
cameras, since I didn't want to take my expensive one on the boat and
perhaps lose it overboard, good thing as I did lose the cheap one to the
sea. I can only tell you know of the rugged beauty of the places,
Francois back dropped by huge rock cliffs, I suppose 300 or 400 feet
high, hard to navigate into. They have put in service a coastal boat
that goes from Francois to Grey River to Burgeo westward and one that
goes to McCallum and Gaultois east ward so if you ever want to visit it
can now be done quite easily, although it doesn't look good for these
communities as they have no roads, no fish and no source of income.
Families are moving out now and within the next few years I expect it
will be deserted. Rencontre is simply a wooded area that you'd miss is
you had no guide to tell you where it was.
Taking many of these excursions, I am proud to say the families that
endured these rugged conditions for some 200 years were my ancestry. I
could only think how difficult it must have been simply to market their
fish or in the beginnings build "tilts" to live in. If you were ever
fortunate to see the coast these settlements are nestled in between the
high cliffs along the coast. The coast seems so unforgiving and the
people have hearts of gold. Not just the Durnfords, but the people of
"our" coast. It isn't difficult to see why early in our history, our
forebears went inland to "over-winter" and came back to the Bays and
Harbours to fish through out the summer months. How the young would
leave a settlement and move up the coast to build a new settlement as
the available landwash would become exhausted and there they would marry
into other families and propagate until we were the outcome, spread from
Coast to Coast in Canada and the US as well as many other countries.
Looking back it can easily be seen as these families grew that there
were the necessity of great exodus to other parts of the Americas as was
often the case in the downturn of the fishery. Now with the moritorium
on the Cod Fishery there might be one last exodus, that being the end of
over two hundred years that these people were able to make a hard, but
honest living.
Even the idea that these were illiterate people, does not change the
fact that intelligence comes not just from books, but experiance. If you
have seen the stunnted growth on the coast and that they would dig up
the roots of these trees and use them to build the ribbing to build
their dories shows that they learned from experiance and had they
ability to build these without the aide of plans, I'd say that in itself
shows how intelligent they were. Using lobster laths as partitions for
there simple yet effeciant two story home, a large kitchen was the
essence of the ground floor, with a fireplace in the centre with stairs
leading to the upper story where there was three bedrooms, and a closet.
They used chaber pots for our human necessities and a bucket in the
closet for emptying the pots, that would freeze in winter, men used a
"sounding hole" (a hole cut in the floor covered with a piece of wood)
at their stage for this purpose. Slips and stages built of thin logs
that weren't large enough for other purposes. Imagine working building a
crib to set the shores for the stagehead when the tide was low, only six
hours and it would be flooded.
Guess what I want to know is we came from good stock, the kind that did
for themselves and asked nothing of the governments, simply wanted to
make a life for their families and now the government wants them out of
there. Odd turn of events!

Cheers :-)
--
Bill Crant, PO Box 86, 24 Lorna Crt., Elmsdale, NS B0N 1M0
Phone (902) 883-8634
Founder - Newfoundland's Grand Banks
http://www.infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/project21/
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