Thanks for all your advice on this particular problem. The situation is rather different from normal I think as the guys I'm teaching are there for a 30 week...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 4, 2006 6:59 am
James, My first thought is that it is fascinating to think of someone trying out a dogme approach in Arabia. My second thought is that I'd much rather hear...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Jul 4, 2006 8:31 am
May I suggest something which works for my Arab students as I too have similar problems. I know that whilst most are used to more formal grammar training, it...
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Gary Harwell
gharwell1
Jul 4, 2006 8:32 am
As someone who is currently teaching in Saudi Arabia I can give a couple of insights into the Saudi Students. Many people assume that because the students are ...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 4, 2006 9:04 am
Kathy, That approach sounds good to me, and if your learners enjoy it... I've got my parchute on, so do shoot me down , fellow and fellowin dogmetists if you...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Jul 4, 2006 9:33 am
A.S. Neill used to say that students at Summerhill needed time to get used to the idea of freedom. In the meantime, they often ran amok. Of course, they were...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Jul 4, 2006 11:15 am
I won't shoot you down, but I have yet to come across a culture where people don't have SOME interests or opinions that they are happy to articulate in public....
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MCJ
omarjohns
Jul 4, 2006 11:55 am
... Personal rapport is very important with Arab students. Relationships are everything and it is really a very good idea to learn all your students names and...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Jul 4, 2006 11:57 am
As a post script to my earlier suggestion about the use of scripts, I think it's important to add that since learning has to come from the learner, in a class...
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mary saunders
rubycarmansc...
Jul 4, 2006 5:20 pm
Hi I'm new and have been following the posts. I too think that building on scripts works! Although it seems 'artificial' by dogme terms the...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 4, 2006 5:52 pm
Kathy asks: "Have you also tried asking them what they like and don't like about your classes so that you can fit in with them more? " I think there are two...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Jul 4, 2006 6:58 pm
I wholly agree, but needs are different from likes. I mean, you can address their needs, which the teacher may decide for them, in a way that they like. I...
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efling1980
Jul 11, 2006 3:26 pm
I have recently been reading popular psychology book by Oliver James entitled 'They F*** you up'. An interesting point he makes is that a free society will...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 11, 2006 6:38 pm
I suppose one could say that Dogme approaches are likely to lead to learners making themselves more and more independent and thus free - but I reckon to talk...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Jul 11, 2006 7:02 pm
***Apologies if this double-posts. I sent it from my e-mail, but it never arrived. So here it is (again).*** If we were to follow the analogy through, we would...
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lizdeltamadrid
Jul 11, 2006 7:44 pm
Hello all.....just joined the group out of a. profesional interest and b. I´ve just started the DELTA intensive course and am thinking of doing a DOGME stylee...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Jul 12, 2006 11:25 am
Hi Liz Welcome to the group. I hope that it'll prove worthwhile for you. You may want to have a look in the files section. A colleague of mine, Emma Jones,...
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josephbarr1971
Jul 13, 2006 1:11 pm
"dogme is really just a label for what is widely considered to be good teaching". I think this statement should be qualified a little. A Dogme approach may be...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 13, 2006 2:36 pm
What is dogme? Really, I'd say, 'dogme' - if that implies a method or an approach - doesn't exist. Thjere is a dogme electronic discussion list, and there are ...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Jul 13, 2006 3:49 pm
Joseph suggested that "A Dogme approach may be "good teaching" in certain contexts, but in others I think it could be entirely inappropriate, irresponsible and...
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Scott Thornbury
scott_thornbury
Jul 13, 2006 5:30 pm
Liz wrote: Hello all.....just joined the group out of a. profesional interest and b. I´ve just started the DELTA intensive course and am thinking of doing a...
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josephbarr1971
Jul 13, 2006 10:02 pm
"This is always to assume that "a dogme approach" exists, but all the evidence would seem to indicate that it doesn't. Neither is it, perhaps, "good teaching"....
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greg baldwin
spin_duck
Jul 14, 2006 8:24 am
Can anyone unpack the expression 'winging it to an art form'? ... Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 14, 2006 8:27 am
Joseph, Do note that only two people, in recent exchanges, made a number iof statements about dogme, though Scott did describe the quoted article as dogmetist....
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 14, 2006 8:29 am
I'll try: "Turning spontaneous, unplanned teaching into an art form." Dennis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Jul 14, 2006 8:34 am
I can't remember where this phrase came from - I think it was something said about us quoted I think by Scott - someone querying whether dogme was merely...
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greg baldwin
spin_duck
Jul 14, 2006 9:12 am
Dear agony aunt I sometimes get the feeling that I am 'winging it to an elevated art form' but don't feel guilty about it. Just the other day, a bee flew into...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Jul 14, 2006 9:24 am
Greg, You remind me of a cartoon I saw years ago. Sadly I haven't a copy. Scene: A classroom. A boy is gazing out of the window staring at a butterfly. The...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Jul 14, 2006 9:52 am
Perfect, Dennis! I like the butterfly cartoon. Greg, for a horrible moment I thought your account was going to end with the stranger with the clipboard...
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lizdeltamadrid
Jul 14, 2006 10:06 am
First of all, thanks for all your advice and directions to producing a dogme style lesson. First of all I know that it isn´t a set appraoch and surely if it...
