From a review about primate behaviour in the latest London Review of Books: "In fact, most of the life skills that people learn are not deliberately taught....
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Diarmuid Fogarty
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Oct 1, 2001 7:26 pm
Well, there might not be an overwhelming rush of answers, but what does come through is good stuff! Inspired and upbeat, thanks to the replies, I went into...
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adrian.tennant
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Oct 1, 2001 8:51 pm
Diarmuid, To answer 2 of your questions:- ... Not always. It depends very much on what is happening within the class/group dynamics. Some days we spend a lot...
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Sue Murray
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Oct 1, 2001 9:16 pm
It's good to hear the smile in your recent postings, Diarmuid, and things seem to be going really well. Here are some personal thoughts on the points you...
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Sue Murray
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Oct 1, 2001 11:24 pm
'dogme moments as trial and error play in the company of others' makes me immediately think of children, and games, whether for adults or kids; and that the...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
dfogarty@...
Oct 2, 2001 3:20 pm
Adrian wrote: With lower level classes on the other hand I have found that the students produce so much language for me to throw back to them to work with that...
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F. Mortes
fmortes@...
Oct 2, 2001 8:40 pm
Hi, there! Been very busy at work recently, but have followed the NEST vs non-NEST debate with a great deal of interest. IMHO, this is a false...
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pali
pali@...
Oct 3, 2001 6:56 am
Dear Frances, I absolutely agree with your valuable insights about the artificial division between NESTs and so on. It is just a manifestation of inferiority...
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sthornbury@...
Oct 3, 2001 6:58 am
From Sue's posting, quoting Terence Deacon: "...dolphins spontaneously produce similar behaviors in the wild and the trainers simpy taught them to exaggerate...
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Tom Walton
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Oct 3, 2001 7:15 am
... I agree 100% with Francesc. Incidentally, with the ADOS-s (there were two), I once sat down at the school where I worked, which at the time employed around...
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adrian.tennant
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Oct 3, 2001 5:20 pm
Sorry to spoil the party but I'm going to say that I don't agree with what Francesc in terms of the NEST and non-NEST divide. I will modify this by saying that...
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Sue Murray
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Oct 3, 2001 7:11 pm
I agree with Adrian that the nest/non nest debate has run its course here, but reluctantly add a postcript. This week, I was quite aghast to meet, on...
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Sue Murray
suemurray@...
Oct 3, 2001 7:54 pm
'throwing back language at students'..... 'generating 3 hours out of a 10 minute activity' *how?*, asks Diarmuid. Good question, and one which lies at the...
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Sue Murray
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Oct 3, 2001 8:28 pm
I wrote a spontaneous and typically disorganised - and late night! - reply to Diarmuid(which I've sent anyway - after all, that's part of the point of a...
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Sue Murray
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Oct 3, 2001 9:00 pm
Nice, inspiring pieces from Scott in October's issue of ELT journal (and two more books coming out - how do you do it Scott? Are you one of those who manages...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
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Oct 3, 2001 9:09 pm
Thanks, Adrian, for getting things back on line (BOOM BOOM). The NEST distinction does seem somewhat out of place in a pedagogy that blurs the distinction...
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Eric Baber
Eric@...
Oct 5, 2001 1:19 pm
With apologies for cross-posting: The ELT online conference (ELToc - http://www.eltoc.com) On November 10 & 11 2001, NetLearn Solutions will be hosting the...
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Sue Murray
suemurray@...
Oct 6, 2001 9:03 pm
... You're so right, Diarmuid. (Like that often quoted, 'Well, I did the present perfect, but I don't know what they did'). I think this is totally normal and...
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dnewson@...
Oct 7, 2001 11:36 am
Sue's recent posting on student-generated lessons reminded me of a former pupil of my wife's (she has taught German over the years to the children of political...
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Sue Murray
suemurray@...
Oct 7, 2001 1:11 pm
... The story about Firat reminded me of a slightly related thing from last year. Solo lessons with Teresa, a High School teacher of English. A fair amount...
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dnewson@...
Oct 7, 2001 6:02 pm
Sue has got me remembering again.... I keep by my bed (I've just fetched them) five books by Nanette Newman - Collins 1972 onwards - compilations, with...
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perkinsfam@...
Oct 11, 2001 2:07 am
Hi Everyone! Being a newbie to the list, I'll keep it short. But, a brief intro first... I'm in my 6th year of studies (after a 10 year break) at 35 and still...
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perkinsfam@...
Oct 11, 2001 2:57 am
Sue and all, I'd like to add just a little to your great post... I personally believe the driving force is, at least in industrialized capitalistic societies,...
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sthornbury@...
Oct 11, 2001 7:10 am
Picking up on Sue's "I did the present perfect - I don't know what they did" - I remember observing a class of beginners in which the teacher organised an...
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dnewson@...
Oct 11, 2001 9:26 am
Scott reports of a lesson about the present simple and daily routines he observed: "At the end he [the teacher] gave them a short questionnaire - along the...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
fogarty@...
Oct 11, 2001 4:06 pm
I've been sent off to do a PGCE in FE up here in sunny (Octobery!!!) Manchester and my first assignment asks me to relate learning theories to practical...
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F. Mortes
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Oct 12, 2001 2:05 pm
Hi, Diarmuid! I thought I'd post a couple of references that relate (language) learning theory with classroom practice. Before that, though, a big hug from...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Oct 12, 2001 2:55 pm
Taken, of all places, from Pseuds Corner in Private Eye (a collection of pretentious sounding extracts featured in a bi-weekly satirical magazine in the UK): ...
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jane arnold
arnold@...
Oct 13, 2001 12:17 am
Diarmuid - a few sources on language learning/teaching theory that might help you out HD Brown - Principles of language Learning and Teaching and also Teaching...
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Sue Murray
suemurray@...
Oct 13, 2001 1:39 am
Stretching things a bit, but talking with a class about song lyrics the following quote was recalled, and it sort of relates to Carmen and her prepositions...
