Diarmuid, Wendy, When my life was dominated by correction (of 'essays' written by German university students) I found, whatever research claimed to...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
Diarmuid_Fog...
Nov 1, 2004 1:34 pm
... wrote Somehow this heavy-handed approach worked. One student wrote: "I've so enjoyed this course. It was like writing a long letter to a good friend each...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Nov 1, 2004 2:16 pm
Diarmuid, In research terms my own feeling is that Truscott et al are right i.e. that I wasted an awful lot of time doing all that correction. I had to do it,...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
Diarmuid_Fog...
Nov 1, 2004 2:32 pm
A question that might be worth another $64000 is why so many teachers also seem to believe that detailed feedback on errors made in writing is also likely to...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Nov 1, 2004 3:52 pm
Diarmuid asks: A question that might be worth another $64000 is why so many teachers also seem to believe that detailed feedback on errors made in writing is...
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Balbis
sandracamill...
Nov 1, 2004 4:28 pm
For an assignment I have been asked to select a tapescript (from ELT published material of from an authentic recording and identify and comment on four...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Nov 1, 2004 5:04 pm
Diarmuid, thinking aloud about the persistent belief that a learner's written language should be corrected, writes: "Does it have something to do with the...
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fiotf
Nov 2, 2004 12:36 am
Diarmuid asks: A question that might be worth another $64000 is why so many teachers also seem to believe that detailed feedback on errors made in writing is ...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Nov 2, 2004 8:33 am
Fiona writes: "I have rarely been able to convince them just to circle or gently underline the offending items, in a sort of 'x marks the spot' mode, so that ...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Nov 2, 2004 3:45 pm
By no means what I consider serious action research, but I have toyed with Diarmuid's AR suggestion by first giving students a list of twenty questions about...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Nov 2, 2004 4:32 pm
Rob writes: "I ask students to tell me what to focus on in correcting their work, giving as examples spelling, prepositions and punctuation." Rob, weren't you...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Nov 2, 2004 5:09 pm
Dennis writes: Rob, weren't you being a bit like a conjuror there who pushes forward the card he wants the person from the audience to choose? As a piece of...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
Diarmuid_Fog...
Nov 2, 2004 8:19 pm
I'd be interested to read about the different techniques people use in the final stage of a dictogloss. Once students have heard and reconstructed the text,...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Nov 2, 2004 8:44 pm
A lot depends on the original text.If a limerick is being used, for example, it might be helpful to work on stress patterns with students, possibly by asking...
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Peter M Hanley
peterhnly
Nov 2, 2004 10:28 pm
Re the dictogloss, Diarmuid, I usually find that by the time they´ve got the whole thing up on the board, which in my experience (the way I do it) takes ages...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Nov 2, 2004 11:37 pm
Like Rob, what I usually feel is most involving and valuable about collaborative activities like dictogloss is the peer teaching and learning that goes on,...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Nov 2, 2004 11:59 pm
sorry, Peter, just out of curiosity - you say your military group are taking an internal army exam in February - so I don't suppose it's the NATO STANAG ...
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Julian Bamford
julian12jp
Nov 3, 2004 8:58 am
Hi Lee, This is a late response to your 10/28 message ("A few examples?) about the workshop you're giving on materials free teaching. You invited us to answer...
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Russell Kent
russkent321
Nov 3, 2004 6:33 pm
Hallo Sue I am studying for a Masters in Applied Linguistics. I had to write a paper on evaluation and chose to compare a Polish Stanag Level 3 test with a...
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Melanie King
meljking04
Nov 3, 2004 9:43 pm
These are a couple of things I did with a dictogloss of about 7/8 sentences to personalise it, once the students got it all out and corrected on the board : ...
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Marta Gabriel
martitagabriel
Nov 3, 2004 10:26 pm
Dear Russell, My name's Marta Gabriel and I'm a Naval Officer in the Portuguese Navy. I hold a degree in Modern Languages and Literatures (English and German...
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fiotf
Nov 3, 2004 10:50 pm
Hi Diarmuid, as with everything, I think the next stage after the text just kinda emerges. It's often pron.-related in my class, but maybe that's my accent...
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Adrian Tennant
adriantennant
Nov 3, 2004 11:11 pm
I did a dictogloss today and the focus at the end was twofold. Firstly, language focussed on the difference between 'The men ..' and 'Men ..' and secondly a...
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Neil Forrest
nforrest@...
Nov 4, 2004 8:58 am
In answer to Adrian - what I do is get them to look for the differences between their version and the original and within their group try and explain why -...
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Russell Kent
russkent321
Nov 4, 2004 10:11 am
Hallo Diarmuid, Could you explain exactly what dictogloss is? Thanks Russ ... From: Diarmuid Fogarty To: dogme@yahoogroups.com Sent: 02 November 2004 21:19 ...
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davidhogg_bcn
Nov 4, 2004 4:17 pm
... UNQUOTE. KOD: Hear, here. I've also tended to find that helping folks to say what they *want* to (be helped to) say is much more appreciated than teachery...
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davidhogg_bcn
Nov 4, 2004 4:44 pm
... UNQUOTE. I'm not sure I agree that to correct every spoken error is totally impractical quite as often as Fiona implies. Unnecessary?: yes, very often. But...
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Adrian Tennant
adriantennant
Nov 4, 2004 5:14 pm
... to do with real, human-sense ... mastered some usaged that the teacher ... That may well be the case in the average classroom but NOT in the Dogme ...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Nov 4, 2004 5:37 pm
*Please excuse the cross-post if you're on gisig. A bit more AR to share (notes from the blackboard): context: 20 Latino scholarship students are discussing...
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Peter Hanley
peterhnly
Nov 4, 2004 8:39 pm
... STANAG ... Yes indeed, it is the Stanag. I´m afraid I don´t have many notes to compare at this stage as I´m still figuring out what it´s all about--I...
