... yes Dennis, I was thinking the same about the students too! (maybe, just put it down to the activation of normal human capacities and capabilities, though...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Feb 1, 2004 8:57 pm
... me too, Dennis - known many such people, including members of my family, and even been one myself. and some language just doesn't have an equivalent -...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Feb 1, 2004 9:23 pm
Mathew, I never found Hallidaian grammar to have much explanatory force for my German university students. In Applied Linguisitics, as opposed to working...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Feb 2, 2004 1:01 am
The comments about Friday's lesson have been very helpful to me in reflecting on the process of teaching and learning. I was worried I might not have something...
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Rita Baker
lydbury85
Feb 2, 2004 11:05 am
Yup! Crazy bunch, the French! Rita MD : Hey Rita, I know exactly what you mean ! The context in which a word was learnt matters a lot ! Thanks for the funny...
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Marianne Dorléac
marianne_dor...
Feb 2, 2004 8:49 pm
... me too, Dennis - known many such people, including members of my family, and even been one myself. MD : but this seems perfectly normal and natural to me :...
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Marianne Dorléac
marianne_dor...
Feb 2, 2004 9:00 pm
Sue Murray <suemurray@...> wrote: (excerpt from posting 5) "I was talking to one of my high-level students today, she's an English language teacher...
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Marianne Dorléac
marianne_dor...
Feb 2, 2004 9:15 pm
"Robert M. Haines" <haines@...> wrote: None of my teachers resembled what Scott has called "Robin Williams on roller-skates". As a teacher, that style...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Feb 3, 2004 3:15 am
We chatted about miscellaneous items like the Superbowl I hadn't watched or even been aware of, the NRT class this morning and other things. During this time,...
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raimund_bartmann
raimund_bart...
Feb 3, 2004 12:25 pm
I've followed the dogme discussion with interest for some time. There is a = lot here to agree upon, and it is encouraging to read so many posts from...
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diarmuid_fogarty
Diarmuid_Fog...
Feb 3, 2004 12:43 pm
Listening is an area that has indeed been discussed relatively recently. As usual, the "dogme take" was actually "dogme takes". My personal view is that...
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Raimund Bartmann
raimund_bart...
Feb 3, 2004 1:09 pm
Thank you Diarmuid. What I had in mind was the original dogme idea about listening, which I appreciate may have been re-examined since then. "No recorded...
6282
sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Feb 3, 2004 1:57 pm
Raimund, welcome. Just to re-iterate Diarmuid's point, there's a long thread on listening starting from about posting 4796 (October 6th 2003). Of all the dogme...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Feb 3, 2004 4:59 pm
Rob, Just a few "thoughts arising". You wrote: "I asked if everyone wanted to do another group presentation as the others had gone over so well. It seemed they...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Feb 3, 2004 5:25 pm
Raimund, When I read: 'No recorded listening material should be introduced into the classroom: the source of all "listening" activities should be the students...
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Raimund Bartmann
raimund_bart...
Feb 3, 2004 7:20 pm
Hello Dennis, Yes, I admit that I do cringe when playing some of those `synthetic' recordings. But although I am committed to restricting (strangling?) such ...
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Adrian Tennant
adriantennant
Feb 3, 2004 10:56 pm
Scott's message about his friend watching soaps in Catalan reminds me of my own initial experiences learning Spanish. I lived and worked in the Canaries and,...
6287
Fiona
fiotf
Feb 4, 2004 12:08 am
Hi Raimund, can I pick up on two things? I'll try to be at least semi-coherent and not too long-winded. The first thing is I think, or feel, that Scott's take...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Feb 4, 2004 12:59 am
Not every human being has the capacity to stomach McGyver --- even Dr. Evil left the room --- so what about the question of listening as interaction vs....
6289
Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Feb 4, 2004 1:15 am
The primitive Virgo in *me* (Dennis) wanted to get really strict with the class after yesterday. Another "session" in the college lavatory helped me tap a more...
6290
djn@...
dnewson2001
Feb 4, 2004 8:55 am
I think it could be that in our discussion over listening we are spread-eagled over undifferentiated teaching and learning contexts. Scott wrote, msg #6282, "I...
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scott_thornbury
Feb 4, 2004 11:18 am
Dennis wrote ... lines ... opposed ... first. ... the ... high ... I'd say Mmmmmm, too. Confusion between hearing and listening, I think, Dennis. You can train...
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sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Feb 4, 2004 12:35 pm
Dennis wrote ... I'd say Mmmmmm, too. Confusion between hearing and listening, I think, Dennis. You can train computers to recognise commands in twenty...
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Raimund Bartmann
raimund_bart...
Feb 4, 2004 3:24 pm
I would say listening is hearing, perceiving and understanding. But I never= ask my students `Do you understand?' because I think that is offensive, rat= her...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Feb 4, 2004 3:56 pm
It strikes me that activities of this kind are task, rather than skill, directed - to do with making meaning, not deconstructing it. Ultimately this means...
6295
Rita Baker
lydbury85
Feb 4, 2004 5:33 pm
I don't know if this technique is dogme-approved, but I do think it is useful for students to be able to read and hear at the same time, for the purposes of...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Feb 4, 2004 11:55 pm
... history, ... aside from translation, it strikes me that what Marianne says about words is equally valid for grammar. and the source is first and foremost...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Feb 5, 2004 12:37 am
Perhaps most of all, what strikes me about this listening thread is how Raimund is *really* listening to his students and his students' needs, and working...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Feb 5, 2004 12:44 am
Perhaps most of all, what strikes me about this listening thread is how Raimund is *really* listening to his students and his students' needs, and working...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Feb 5, 2004 1:30 am
We had a quiz today. Because this one is in a format that allows for it, I'd like to include it in the files section of the list for feedback, questions, etc....
