Also for a more general discussion about assessment this paper published in Educational Researcher Online is very interesting.: "The Role of Assessment in a...
... would like to ... picture of any ... conclusions ... benefit ... etc. Zosia, You might like to look over writings by Lyle Bachman, now at UCLA (try a...
John, How good are you at assessing a learner's written English? I always thought I was pretty good and that two pages of A4 was more of a sample than I needed...
... to realize that, within about 15 minutes of talking to ... level (especially compared with the thousands of ... frightens me the most is that I am rarely...
Dennis, I know what you mean. The linguistic competencies at play in producing written English really do seem to require using a different way to measure them....
... frustrating ... communicative ... me and ... I ... And I can do ... speaker', I ... assessment? I ... Dr Evil, ... speaker', I wonder how you know they are...
... great extent, listening ability, and, to a lesser extent, ... So how would you mark someone who said: Aah's gaan yem. or says, 'Axe' instead of 'Ask'. i.e....
... appropriacy to a ... A lot of people in the neck of the woods where I grew up (Illinois, USA) pronounce "ask" as /aeks/, so as a stand-alone pronunciation...
Hi John, Basically all three were accepted variants of British English. They would, in fact, be very common in the speech of hundreds of thousands of people in...
Hang on, here. If someone said to me ay up midduk, in a situation where he/she knew I wasn't from Northern England and in a context where the phrase as a...
... De: Adrian Tennant [mailto:adrian.tennant@...] Enviado el: viernes, 02 de enero de 2004 20:32 Para: dogme@yahoogroups.com Asunto: Re: [dogme] Re:...
Dear Halima, The reason for the focus on native/non-native was that John originally ... 15 minutes of talking to any non-native speaker, I have > a darn good...
After reading the exchange between Adrian, John and Halima: I've been a certified IELTS assessor. I found it relatively easy to assess written and spoken...
Adrian's examples reminded me of when I came to live in Newcastle, UK and the first contacts with blue-collar natives corrected my assupmtion that I could...
... De: Robert M. Haines [mailto:haines@...] Enviado el: viernes, 02 de enero de 2004 22:22 Para: Dogme Asunto: [dogme] Social interaction and language...
... when to modify their language eliminating ... far fewer problems speaking and understanding ... Interstingly enough, a couple of years ago I saw a talk by...
An interesting story about your son, Halima. Thanks. Question on your statement: "Most EFL learners need to do business or learn science or something like that...
Only personal experience. So I could be way off. But if not for these reasons, WHY do people learn English? Travel, business, work, pleasure? And why is...
... I'll add to the anecdotal evidence. My personal experience is that most all adults want to learn English for these reasons. Immigration, cultural interest,...
In response to Halima and Tom: I'm not convinced that any of us really knows what sort of instrumental and integrative motivation is at work within most...
An interesting gloss on language and imperialism on today's BBC website - a piece by the presenter of 'Follow me', the televised English teaching programme ...
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Dr. E asks: "So how would you mark someone who said: Aah's gaan yem. or says, 'Axe' instead of 'Ask'. i.e. I axed you before. or Ay-up midduk Wouldn't you...
Zosia writes of some Geordies: "I wonder whether they would pass the most lowly IELTS?" To pinch Rob's phrase..."without endorsing IELTS...", I gathered during...
... accent, pronunciation need to be assessed? Well, Yes and No. Who decides what accent is acceptable? What accent, or form to teach? Isn't it an absurdity...
... De: Adrian Tennant [mailto:adrian.tennant@...] Enviado el: lunes, 05 de enero de 2004 9:30 Para: dogme@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [dogme] Accents ......
... relative competency in communication skills in a ... sort of international setting where concerns of an > international sort of audience are concerned. In...
Dr. E. writes: "Isn't it an absurdity if a native speaker of English can't pass an English exam because their accent is unacceptable?!!!" I don't find it an...
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