Perhaps I can smuggle in a comment on 'grammar' here rather than giving a new subject and producing a groan of "Oh No!" around the dogme world... I'm struck...
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Robert Wood
rob_wood_2000
Oct 1, 2003 8:13 am
I think the major publishers have a lot to answer for here, in that they tend to expect and demand that their coursebooks keep grammar to the fore. Then we ...
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sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Oct 1, 2003 10:11 am
Here's a thought. The vast majority of teachers - for one reason or the other - seem locked into the kind of grammar MacNuggets paradigm that Robert (among...
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Tom Topham
tom_topham
Oct 1, 2003 10:32 am
... Whoever they are no doubt they're also anti-semitic sexist bigots - no points for guessing sex and skin colour... ...
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Pete.
peterhart2000
Oct 1, 2003 11:20 am
A book that gathers a lot of this stuff re: language acquisition in children/case studies of 'feral children'/'talking' primates etc is 'The Articulate Mammal'...
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G G
aymikabeza
Oct 1, 2003 1:08 pm
Pete, I read the book a while back in my first years of teaching and agree with you that it is probably one of the best reads on the subject of...
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Steven Ceuppens
ctznkane78
Oct 1, 2003 1:18 pm
... Hey Scott, since this is my first year of EFL, I don't know the market that well (though I did see in our university library that you authored a coursebook...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Oct 1, 2003 2:16 pm
Steven asks: "But I've got a gut feeling somewhere that a dogme coursebook would come with a thin handbook, right?" Steven, In a discussion last year about the...
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Ted Bear
bob_the_pen
Oct 1, 2003 4:48 pm
Critical Period Hypothesis seems to ring a bell, as Pavlov may have said... ... _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 1, 2003 4:50 pm
Can't we just sit at home in the lotus position, thinking dogme thoughts that eventually permeate the collective consciousness of the universe? What's with all...
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Steven Ceuppens
ctznkane78
Oct 1, 2003 5:05 pm
... It's the Insane Clown Posse, and hostility towards everything is their trademark... Some audience seems to enjoy the Posse pouring lemonade over the...
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djn@...
dnewson2001
Oct 1, 2003 5:12 pm
I'm a virgo, a moderator of x lists, I studied history and was told to care about documentation.. Before we go any further in our initial brain-storming for...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 1, 2003 5:36 pm
Thanks for reminding me how hip I am not, Steven. ;-) I'll bet The Ramones poured lemonade over fans' heads first though. Rob ... From: Steven Ceuppens...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 1, 2003 5:41 pm
Make that the Sex Pistols and now I'm back to dogme-related topics --- Promise. Robbie Rotten [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Oct 1, 2003 6:01 pm
Can we all go easy on the one-liners: I keep getting complaints from people that their emails are full of dogme trivia. It seems it's either that or...
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Iain Diamond
diamond_iain
Oct 1, 2003 6:14 pm
As an aside, I once mentioned to some upper-intermediate students how I cope when talking to native Spanish speakers: sometimes all I understand is a couple of...
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Iain Diamond
diamond_iain
Oct 1, 2003 6:32 pm
An interesting idea, but I'm not convinced that a dogme textbook is going to do it. Part of my CELTA course involved evaluating material; if the course...
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profshaun36
Oct 1, 2003 8:33 pm
... grammar ... on ... on the ... the ... With regard mistakes what about reformulation. Which I use a lot in my dogmetic classes. When trainign in error...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
Diarmuid_Fog...
Oct 1, 2003 9:06 pm
The whole idea of a dogme coursebook is decidedly dodgy to me. It's a bit like the idea that you only destroy the parliamentary system by taking part in it; or...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Oct 1, 2003 9:44 pm
I agree what Rob W said about change being apparent - I've certainly seen big changes in attitudes and practices over recent years - without throwing the baby...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Oct 1, 2003 9:44 pm
(re Iain's point): and when we guess, we often go for the odds-on from experience where applicable - eg, if in a classroom, and teacher puts student utterances...
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Adrian Tennant
adriantennant
Oct 1, 2003 10:33 pm
Well, lots of issues here, ... (students & teacher). But it's of no use to other classes and of little use to the same class (it's really a very 'Here and Now'...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Oct 1, 2003 10:40 pm
this doesn't really answer your points Shaun, but what I find - though I'm talking small (max. 12 students) classes (dogme has many forms) - is that *most* of...
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Fiona
fiotf
Oct 1, 2003 11:10 pm
Well, I agree with Adrian, Scott and Diarmuid all at the same time! Have my cake and eat it. I agree that a dogme coursebook sounds like a contradiction in...
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lifang67
Oct 1, 2003 11:48 pm
Yesterday in Elementary English Education we were studying counting rhymes. You know, the things kids use to decide who is going to be "it". Eenie, meenie,...
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lifang67
Oct 2, 2003 12:02 am
I realize that some people are objecting (to Scott) to MY mails, as well as to Rob's pouring lemonade all over everybody. My suggestion is to go to the Yahoo...
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profshaun36
Oct 2, 2003 12:38 am
- Sorry Fiona I can't see that evenly the nicely packaged with some good listening English File, could possibly be entertained by a dogme teacher. The McNugget...
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Charles Jannuzzi
literacyacro...
Oct 2, 2003 2:06 am
... He must be the most quoted person on the planet. He doesn't really answer the point I raised. What shuts down? Is it a LAD or is it a type of general...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2003 5:20 am
Until the rules we've agreed to are changed or I'm booted off the list, I'll write what I feel is appropriate. If this causes problems for people, they should...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2003 5:32 am
The slide show/lecture on Nicaragua was interesting and informative. It was a treat for the stronger student to face the challenge of listening to a...
