... From: Neil Forrest - IH Barcelona [mailto:nforrest@...] Subject: RE: [dogme] coursebooks (again) ... these people associate with classrooms. One...
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Olwyn Alexander
o.alexander@...
Dec 2, 2000 5:40 pm
This started out as a warmer for an academic writing class and ended up taking the whole hour. I was working on writing abstracts with a group of MSc and PhD...
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sthornbury@...
Dec 3, 2000 4:19 pm
Ok, Olwyn and Neil, so coursebooks help non-autonomous learners organise the input for learning. Granted. But then, what kind of coursebook would a Dogme...
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Olwyn Alexander
o.alexander@...
Dec 3, 2000 6:55 pm
From: sthornbury@... Sent: 03 December 2000 16:22 ... coursebook that foregrounds the learners' meanings, needs, desires - their "inner story"? How...
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kellogg
kellogg@...
Dec 4, 2000 9:32 am
Scott, Olywn: I have a lesson to share, and then some emergent thoughts on the dogme coursebook problem. (briefly, for those in a hurry, I want to see a...
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sthornbury@...
Dec 4, 2000 1:48 pm
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kellogg
kellogg@...
Dec 4, 2000 10:52 pm
Scott: In defense of alienation effects. The problem with the alienating Contact English approach is the lack of alienation, which allows the possibility of...
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Scott Thornbury
sthornbury@...
Dec 5, 2000 9:56 pm
A footnote to posting 317 (about my grandfather). http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,525248a1902,FF.html...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Dec 7, 2000 11:26 am
... I can't imagine a dogme 'coursebook' having levels at all. ... It may be that there are or will be books which fit the dogme classroom, but I doubt that...
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Jeremy Harmer
jeremy.harmer@...
Dec 8, 2000 12:59 pm
What fun to come back (at Scott's invitation) after some time away, and see how the conversation is going. I was struck by the story of Luke and the watch. So...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Dec 8, 2000 2:58 pm
Hi Jeremy Welcome back Well, yes - dogme use. The how is more important than the what. And less is more. More or less. Luke *********** REPLY SEPARATOR...
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kellogg
kellogg@...
Dec 9, 2000 1:12 am
In a great deal of what Scott writes (particularly his exquisite, and excruciating, "On Not Being Dangerous" in the TTSIG newsletter), there is a kind of...
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sthornbury@...
Dec 13, 2000 1:18 pm
There's a rather neat article in the latest TESOL Journal on non- native speaker perceptions of NS teachers - a questionnaire study of teachers and students in...
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Jeremy Harmer
jeremy.harmer@...
Dec 14, 2000 6:27 pm
I enjoyed Scott's report of the article about native speakers. I know those teachers! Coincidentally I had a long conversation today with a university student...
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Tom Walton
twalton@...
Dec 14, 2000 6:58 pm
I like Jeremy's summary very much - particularly the bit about the "teacher's observable concern for the relationship between him/herself and the students as...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Dec 15, 2000 6:40 pm
Jeremy, what were you doing in your time off site? You have come up with one of the best outlines of dogme yet, and I'll respond item by item below. Tom, I...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Dec 15, 2000 6:40 pm
In case the mood doesn't hit me next week, I'd like to wish everyone a Happy Christmas and New Year and thank all participants for teaching me so much this...
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sthornbury@...
Dec 18, 2000 5:18 pm
While on the subject of songs (No Guru, No method, No teacher) I found the following lyric running through my head (after watching a two-hour TV tribute to...
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Dan
dan_humm@...
Dec 21, 2000 5:10 pm
Dear All, It seems that I can't afford to turn my back on the list for a moment or I'll have to read through 45 unread messages like I just did. The two ones...
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stephen darwen
sdarwen@...
Dec 21, 2000 5:59 pm
feliz fiestas a ti! see you soon Dan. Steve. p.s. the coffee bar survives... ... _________________________________________________________________________ Get...
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sthornbury@...
Dec 29, 2000 6:05 pm
The latest TESOL Quarterly is devoted to "TESOL in the 21st Century". Here's a milennial thought from Mark Warschauer (who I've quoted before on this site): ...
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sthornbury@...
Jan 1, 2001 10:46 pm
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Jeremy Harmer
jeremy.harmer@...
Jan 2, 2001 5:00 pm
A happy new year to everyone! I enjoyed Dan's words about 'el Don'. I agree completely that we shouldn't promote the super teacher. My point was only that some...
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sthornbury@...
Jan 6, 2001 6:36 pm
Just happen to be flicking through a new adult coursebook (pre-int, published 2000): Cover blurb: "It combines a strong grammar syllabus with a contemporary...
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Ruth Wajnryb
rwajnryb@...
Jan 7, 2001 3:50 am
Happy New Year to everyone I've only just had time to look at some `dogmemails' from late dec - this one from Scott made me think: Scott cites a reviewer who...
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kellogg59@...
Jan 8, 2001 9:39 pm
Dan: As we all know, you learn more about discourse when you participate in it. You listen more when you are going to make reply, and you read better if you...
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Ruth Wajnryb
rwajnryb@...
Jan 10, 2001 10:31 am
Hi David Thank you for your long message. An interesting read. But how does your Korean teacher fit with your theory about the social attractiveness etc of ...
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kellogg59@...
Jan 10, 2001 3:41 pm
Ruth: Sorry about that. Once again I cut too deep, concision vs. clarity. Earlier on the list, we talked about the problem of "level", and I argued that...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Jan 10, 2001 6:12 pm
... This is a very improving approach indeed. Reading better is a strange concept, like walking better. ... Do you want a reading of this message? I think you...
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Ruth Wajnryb
rwajnryb@...
Jan 10, 2001 11:18 pm
David more on this special teacher quality phenomenon - are you familiar with Penny Ur's research on this? It was an IATEFL plenary address (a couple of years...
