Hello Piro, I remember a great summary of dogme that was posted here on 17/07/2010 by Frank Ferendo titled Dogme Summary. If you look in the archives you...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 1, 2012 2:27 pm
What a memory, Natasha! Here's a link that message : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dogme/message/15443 Rob ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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Alan
manxli
Mar 1, 2012 4:33 pm
Hello Following quote from (Butt et al, 2000, p.41) is of interest: 1. If learning activities focus only on correct language use, there is a risk of limiting...
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sarahestop
Mar 1, 2012 4:33 pm
It's a group of 11 learners, 10 women and 1 man, from Bangladesh, Guinea Bissau, Pakistan, Somalia and Thailand. Ages range from 20s to late 60s. Most are...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 1, 2012 10:10 pm
Alan, I remember discovering SFL for myself and finding it a convenient and practical method of analysis, but I can imagine it would confuse and frustrate many...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 1, 2012 10:18 pm
Thanks, Sarah - now we're getting somewhere! :-) Where is the man from, and how does he feel being the only make in the room? What kind of interaction is there...
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Alan
manxli
Mar 1, 2012 11:51 pm
Hi Robert You are quite right? The student doesn't need to learn meta-language jargon to learn a language. Just as many jazz musicians play by ear and have no...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 1, 2012 11:58 pm
Thanks, Alan. I've nothing to be right about as I was just posing a question based on a list member's ideas. :-) I like the idea of learners associating with...
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mcjsa@...
mcjsa
Mar 2, 2012 7:46 am
I'm also interested in structural / functional "grammar" and use a system that's similar to Alan's called KISS http://home.pct.edu/~evavra/KISS.htm The system...
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Alan
manxli
Mar 2, 2012 10:49 am
Hi Mark / Rob Yes, it's not really so important 'SFL' or 'KISS' (There's also Dik's Functional Grammar and others). The main point is, as Francis Christie puts...
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Natasha Janzen Ulbricht
natashajanzen
Mar 2, 2012 12:32 pm
Hello! Several months ago I began using SFL with my students, (thanks to Alan's website). The last time we did a class evaluation of the activities and methods...
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binoychetia
Mar 7, 2012 2:25 pm
Hi, this is Binoy i am a new member of this forum, I am a student of Tezpur University which is in Assam, India. I am doing my dissertation on 'Dogme...
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sinan akababa
ginizli
Mar 15, 2012 12:03 am
Dear Teachers, sorry for cross posting. Several teachers are needed for language school in Istanbul. we have two different projects; one immersion school and...
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Carol Goodey
carolgoodey...
Mar 15, 2012 10:29 pm
It's a long time since I've contributed to this group but I felt it was high time that I shared some of my experiences as I've really enjoyed the stories from...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 16, 2012 2:41 am
Lovely, Carol! Wish I had been a part of that fine gathering. Rob ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Mar 16, 2012 7:39 am
I very much enjoyed reading your account. Thank you. As always, though, I cannot help wondering about focusing on "grammar". You wrote: " I focused on his use...
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Carol Goodey
carolgoodey...
Mar 16, 2012 8:50 am
Thanks, Rob! I really appreciate your comment, and you would have been very welcome. Next time you're in Perthshire... :-) Carol ... From: "Robert Haines"...
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Carol Goodey
carolgoodey...
Mar 16, 2012 8:51 am
Thanks, Dennis. Your anti-grammar statements are useful to get us thinking about what we do and why we do it. This particular learner has been in the UK for a...
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mcjsa@...
mcjsa
Mar 16, 2012 12:00 pm
Hi Dennis, I agree that much grammar instruction is pointless and often counter productive. You're right that most of this is really learned through...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 16, 2012 4:25 pm
Mark, what you've written reminds me of this quote from Keats: "I mean Negative Capability, that is when man (sic) is capable of being in uncertainties,...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Mar 16, 2012 4:38 pm
Thanks, Mark. A very interesting read. Just o0ne question: Did yo9u link to reference to Krashen's article fall off the message? Nothing seems to have come...
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dogme@yahoogroups.com
Mar 16, 2012 5:09 pm
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the dogme group. File :...
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feyzanurcakal
Mar 16, 2012 6:54 pm
"Predominant use of the target language has long been considered an important principle of second language instruction....On the other hand, I am also...
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Binoy Chetia
binoychetia
Mar 16, 2012 6:54 pm
Hi, this is Binoy i am a new member of this forum, I am a student of Tezpur University which is in Assam, India. I am doing my dissertation on 'Dogme...
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Ando Douglas
ando_doug
Mar 16, 2012 6:55 pm
A grand challenge! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 16, 2012 7:01 pm
I think L1 use is fine. You'll find more on this topic in the archives, too. Where Dogme classrooms are on this issue will of course depend on the people in...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 16, 2012 7:20 pm
Hello Binoy. Thanks you for your queery. One way to approach your class, which I assume is a class of beginning language learners, is by having a conversation...
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feyzanur çakal
feyzanurcakal
Mar 16, 2012 7:43 pm
In an EFL setting, my classroom has a high expectation of translation. Intense efforts of mine to use English make me worried when I sometimes turn to...
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feyzanur çakal
feyzanurcakal
Mar 16, 2012 7:44 pm
Hi, I want to join the conversation with my own question marks, if you accept......I wonder about "the conversation-driven" part. You say "the conversation...
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Robert Haines
romiha1
Mar 16, 2012 7:53 pm
Hi Feyza, Dogme can be materials-free, depending on how we define 'materials', and also materials-lite (with few materials). My suggestion to use text, which...
