1. The teacher is the most important person in the classroom. Hopefully the content is the most important thing in the classroom and the teacher and students...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 1, 2001 10:53 am
Hi Adrian I'm not the person best suited to answer you as I am still on my huge existential angst trip. But your post made me think. You wrote of how your...
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Brian Perkins
perkinsfam
Dec 3, 2001 12:39 am
... I'd like to explore this question if we may. What are the popular thoughts? (I would assume they are negative.) What are the various opinions here? I,...
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kellogg
lifang67
Dec 3, 2001 3:43 am
Dear Evil: I have an extremely long quote to share with you, and my only excuse is that it's about Uzbekistan. But it's also about a "dogme" problem which has...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 3, 2001 7:22 am
In response to Brian: I suppose so much depends on the circumstances, not to say the motivation! But as a general rule, the idea that it is unethical to be...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 3, 2001 7:26 am
DK It struck me that the Uzbek peasants' reasoning was as syntagmatic as paradigmatic. Would you agree? By the way, thanks for the off-list posting which I...
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Graham S Hall
gshgshgshuk
Dec 3, 2001 9:20 am
Hi ... I'm not sure whether I'm with Adrian and his students on this one. I can't comment on outside the UK, but for my classes in Newcastle, I think dogme ...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 3, 2001 10:10 am
Carl Rogers and Earl Stevick are frequently mentioned on dogme. Which books by these two authors would list members particularly recommend? Dennis Dennis...
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Simon Gill
pangill2001
Dec 3, 2001 11:45 am
Brian Perkins asked for opinions about "fraternizing" (funny word that - it seems to collocate, in my mind at least, with "with the enemy") with students. My...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
dfogarty@...
Dec 3, 2001 12:29 pm
The Carl Rogers' book that's probably worth starting off with is 'Freedom to Learn'. This has been revised and added to a number of times but there seems to be...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 3, 2001 1:07 pm
As we keep telling each other, it depends so much on individual circumstances.The main point, surely is: how old are the pupils and how old is the teacher? ...
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sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Dec 3, 2001 2:40 pm
The first Stevick book I read was A Way and Ways (Newbury House)- it was practically the first book I read on anything ELT related, and I'd been teaching about...
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adrian.tennant
adriantennant
Dec 3, 2001 5:18 pm
But DK, surely the groupings that the 'unschooled39; Uzbeki's chose were fine. They just didn't conform to the logic expected (or required) the the person asking...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Dec 3, 2001 9:32 pm
... I didn't think DK was saying the groupings were in any way inferior; I took the point as also meaning that language is often presented and learnt as...
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Sue Murray
suemurrayit
Dec 3, 2001 9:41 pm
... And as a 'dogwoman39; (does that make me a bitch?), I'd personally prefer the term 'socialising39;! And yes, it depends on lots of things. Classes here often...
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kellogg@...
lifang67
Dec 4, 2001 12:24 am
Diarmuid: Sorry, I was trying to keep things short, and I truncated the quote (which isn't actually Luria himself, it's from Lantolf's introductory essay...
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Bob Gettings
gettings@...
Dec 4, 2001 2:00 am
Hi! This is my first time to post but I've been lurking for a bit. Hope I haven't missed something that makes my post seem off track! kellog's quote about...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 4, 2001 6:12 am
Kellogg quotes: Luria: "Cotton grows where it is damp and dry. In England it is cold and damp. Does cotton grow in England?" Unschool Uzbek Peasant: "I ...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 4, 2001 6:33 am
I wish at this very moment that there was a button that could pull back a recently sent message. It's not so much that my remark about the peasant being...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 4, 2001 7:30 am
You're quite right, David (on a number of counts!). It was David French who replied to me offline. Apologies to both of you. DF, I'd still be interested in...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 4, 2001 7:41 am
Hi Bob You can find the commandments (read 'ah-mahnd-muntz' because of tongue in cheek) on Scott's (our?) website www.teaching-unplugged.com. Just a quick...
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g.hall@...
gshgshgshuk
Dec 4, 2001 10:14 am
Hi Just thought I'd follow up Dennis' message where he raised a question about the role of research - does it help the target group (Dennis, I know you've...
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sthornbury@...
scott_thornbury
Dec 4, 2001 10:54 am
Apropos of research... It was interesting (to me at least) that the recently-conducted dogme poll (itself a tiny bit of research) threw up the fact that a lot...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 4, 2001 7:05 pm
How do you teach somebody how to drive humanistically? Or is the answer that humanist teachers have no control over what is learnt?...
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Bob Gettings
gettings@...
Dec 5, 2001 1:33 am
Diarmuid! Thanks for the URL (www.teaching-unplugged.com) So much interesting stuff to read. And apologies for mail that was perhaps too harsh or...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 5, 2001 5:28 am
With reference to the discussion on how to teach driving humanistically, I'm struggling to recall a title. Isn't there a (past) cult book named: "Zen and the...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 5, 2001 6:51 am
Harsh and argumentative is good! Incidentally, Bob, I didn't pick up on either of them in your e-mail. The same thing happens to me. I type goodnaturedly and...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Dec 5, 2001 7:44 am
Here's a question that I would genuinely love to see answered by all: Do you consider yourself primarily a teacher or primarily an English Language teacher? ...
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Dennis
dnewson2001
Dec 5, 2001 9:10 am
Nice one, Diarmuid....(Do we/did we see ourselves as primarily teachers or English teachers?) For the first part of my career, when I was young and green and...
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Ruth
rwajnryb@...
Dec 5, 2001 10:41 am
do they read Yeats in Uzbekestan? regards Ruth ... From: <dogme@yahoogroups.com> To: <dogme@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:55 PM ...