Remco, Congratulations on your first message to dogme and thank you for not being passive. Dennis [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Oct 1, 2006 7:58 am
Zosia, I'd agree - the profile must contain: "Confident and comfortable in the use of English", and underline that this does NOT simply mean: "native ...
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Celso
celsocamargors@...
Oct 2, 2006 1:37 am
I think the level of the students is of more importance than the teacher's NNs xNS status. In my experience, only from the upper-intermediate level on (for...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 2, 2006 4:22 am
Last year I taught a small class of beginners and we managed to have lessons that fell comfortably within the boundaries of what might be termed "a dogme...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 2, 2006 6:00 am
I think the concerns over whether dogme is a rich man's [sic] group is a red herring. After all, the whole idea of dogme is that teaching and learning can...
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dogme@yahoogroups.com
Oct 2, 2006 5:42 pm
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the dogme group: Are you a native speaker of English? o Yes o No To vote, please visit the following...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2006 5:48 pm
Dennis, you wrote: "If one of the list's moderators set up a simple poll with the one question: "Are you a native speaker of English" Yahoogroups programming...
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dnewson2001
Oct 2, 2006 5:55 pm
Why thanks - Rob. Dennis...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2006 6:24 pm
Reading Diarmuid's most recent post to this list reminded me of the connections I see between dogme and the Democratic party of the United States at the...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2006 7:03 pm
In the article ( http://www.hltmag.co.uk/nov01/mart4.htm )cited by Diarmuid recently, you can read: "Some critical linguists such as Phillipson (1992) and...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 2, 2006 7:41 pm
One might ask whether or not people like Phillipson feel that it is their role as linguists to address the "concrete problems of teaching English in difficult...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 2, 2006 9:01 pm
Diarmuid wrote: "One might ask whether or not people like Phillipson feel that it is their role as linguists to address the "concrete problems of teaching...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 2, 2006 9:10 pm
Some may. Others may appreciate having research to fall back on. Others may think that research is a load of bunkum and act anyway. But Maley's criticism of...
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Zosia
zosienka46
Oct 3, 2006 11:46 am
... I've personally known a lot of non-native English speakers who ... hear, hear. actually, it is the age-old debacle "NS vs NNS" . Remco is his(her?)...
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Zosia
zosienka46
Oct 3, 2006 12:13 pm
... whatever ... without trying to sound flippant or criticising, how can you make statements concerning the professed match of level vs approach if you don't...
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nicholascolleen
Oct 4, 2006 11:31 am
I completed my Celta in Mumbai last year. Almost all in my group are not using the Celta. Reason....jobs are only for native speakers of English. My...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 4, 2006 12:09 pm
... I think you've just answered your own question, Colleen....
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scott_thornbury
Oct 4, 2006 9:23 pm
... speakers???? and ... 1. If they didn't offer the course to non-native speakers, then they would have even less chance of getting a job: 2. If they offered...
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scott_thornbury
Oct 4, 2006 9:54 pm
We had another session on dogme today, as part of SIT's professional development program. We picked up at the point we left off last week, where questions had...
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Kevin Landry
lklandry2002
Oct 4, 2006 11:26 pm
I agree with Scott. The CELTA not to blame for a culture that views native as accurate. Non natives can be fluent and great teachers. It is a problem of...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 5, 2006 4:28 am
I thnik that Soctt i perhaps being too (uncharacteristically) charitable. I also read Colleen's question differently. I understood Colleeen to be asking why...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Oct 5, 2006 4:29 am
My first thought is that I didn't explain myself very well. My McD's versus home-cooking metaphor was not meant to be an advocacy for ANY type of coursebook,...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Oct 5, 2006 9:43 am
I think there are two issues here; in terms of coursebooks Diarmiud's description of something 'cobbled together through records of classes' feels right - not...
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Zosia
zosienka46
Oct 5, 2006 12:30 pm
... The engagement needs to be there ... room ... class well, I must disagree, based on first hand experience. not once, not twice, although perhaps not an...
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Laura Nogues
laura_nogues
Oct 5, 2006 12:51 pm
I have been reading your exchange of emails for a while, but didn't dare to participate. Today's contribution is my first one. Scott, I like the idea of...
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Rita Baker
lydbury85
Oct 5, 2006 1:31 pm
I think that what is so simple, yet revolutionary about Dogme is the fact that it uses the learner as a resource. As a VSO in the Bush in Zambia exactly 40...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Oct 5, 2006 1:38 pm
Hi Zosia - 'the key feature is having an open ear to the present group's voice but not shielding them from the voices from the past' - fair play, and well put...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Oct 5, 2006 1:58 pm
The 'from Vermont' thread could be confusing. For a minute there I thought Rita had moved to Vermont too... perhaps we could all go there. Scott? And well said...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Oct 5, 2006 3:39 pm
Thank you for the interesting posts everybody! Dogme, as something other than a manifesto or moniker, might be out there, and some of us might be in touch...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Oct 5, 2006 6:04 pm
Greetings everyone from Budapest, where I am for a conference. I read some of the earlier correspondence a few hours ago in an internet cafe, now I am back at...
