Anthony's main objection to the feasibility of an apprenticeship model appears to boil down to the fact that it doesn't acknowledge the priority of profit over...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Sep 2, 2006 7:52 am
Well said Diarmuid. I started teaching having had a month's 'experience' as a class 'watcher' with a degree in my pocket. Oh how I suffered! I then went...
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a_gaughan1973
Sep 4, 2006 11:16 pm
Hello Diarmuid, Thanks for replying to my post but don't quite agree with you that the argument I put forward is simply one of profit versus quality. It is ...
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a_gaughan1973
Sep 4, 2006 11:16 pm
PS, It would also be interesting to hear from anyone reading this thread concerning the second point I made about what particular aspects of the CELTA...
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a_gaughan1973
Sep 4, 2006 11:16 pm
I suppose I'm writing this because after reading Diarmid's response to my first post I felt inaccurately portrayed as an apologist for capitalism and market...
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Paul
ankersman
Sep 4, 2006 11:17 pm
A sound observation or two, Kathy. I've done a TEFL, with no degree in my pocket. Despite the 6 hours of observed teaching, the 2000 plus pages of teaching ...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 5, 2006 7:23 am
Hi Anthony I suspect that there's not much we disagree on in reality. Of course, I am aware that what I am arguing for is highly implausible (I'm not sure I'd...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 6, 2006 10:07 am
From Guy Cook's Language Play, Language Learning (2000:197). Published by OUP "...although classroom activity is necessarily artificial, teachers tend to feel...
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Dennis Newson
dnewson2001
Sep 6, 2006 10:22 am
Greetings from within view of Harlech Castle, Wales. I certainly did not mean to pour cold water over Diarmuid's proposal. I just wanted to mention that...
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ianmartinnewby
Sep 6, 2006 2:38 pm
Dear all, I've been a DOGME discussion group lurker for what seems to be years and have always followed the various discussion threads with great interest. I...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Sep 6, 2006 3:16 pm
All this reminds me of that hefty observation: 'life is but a dream'. If it works, use it and make your excuses later. Games may not be 'real' but they...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 6, 2006 7:09 pm
From Guy Cook's Language Play, Language Learning (2000:197). Published by OUP "...although classroom activity is necessarily artificial, teachers tend to feel...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 7, 2006 3:31 am
I see within Cook's concern about the "cult of the real" a challenge to Dogme which seems to be a champion of that cult, to the extent that it calls for an...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 8, 2006 4:52 am
Diarmuid writes: As such, Cook appears to argue that texts, as found in textbooks, can, in fact, be wholly constructive, despite their artificiality precisely...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 8, 2006 8:57 am
Whatever one might think of academic qualifications etc, I think one has to recognise that Guy Cook is not just writing about a notion that occurred to him as...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 9, 2006 1:26 am
Diarmuid, fellow list members, it's difficult to properly criticize Guy Cook's arguments without reading them for ourselves. The excerpt posted by you,...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 9, 2006 8:19 am
Rob's right to remind me that what I consider to be relevant to dogme is surely relevant to "some" part of dogme. He's also right to point out that none of...
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eslindasd
Sep 11, 2006 1:30 am
of my first posting. :) I /think/ I'm slowly getting the hang of dogme. And from what I understand it seems a million miles away from a Korean hakwon. I've...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 11, 2006 6:03 am
Hi Linda Only now that the initial thrill has worn off are my fingers steady enough to try and type some sort of response. Not only is it your first post, but...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 11, 2006 5:13 pm
Linda, I wonder if a round of Simon says... would fit in with the TPR that Diarmuid suggests? Just a note on participation (which Diarmuid mentioned): make...
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Jkmoliver@...
jackamandy
Sep 12, 2006 8:13 am
As an aside, but pertinent to all teachers, I have recently come across a wonderful book which can be downloaded FOR FREE which may/may not give us some more...
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diarmuid_fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 14, 2006 11:42 am
A disappointing uptake on the thread about Language Play prompts me to write again! If anybody would like a copy of one of Cook's articles from ELT-J, let me...
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diamond_fingerz
Sep 15, 2006 10:03 am
Hello all, Beware - I think I'm about to embark on an entirely irrelevant rant! Over the last month or so that I've been following the discussions on dogme,...
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Luke Meddings
luke@...
Sep 15, 2006 11:06 am
Peter, not a rant, and no need to apologise. I haven't got the answer. But I think your analysis of the false (but incrementally real) barriers that are...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 15, 2006 3:14 pm
Peter, I think everyone on this list has felt similar frustration. There might even be a few posts to that effect. Your post reminds me of Pink Floyd's album,...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 15, 2006 8:55 pm
FOREST PARK, Ga. - On his first day of school, 5-year-old Al-Khafid Sharrieff Muhammad came home to tell his mom he didn't understand what anyone was saying in...
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elt@...
vonmarrviii
Sep 15, 2006 9:18 pm
Peter, From my one-year experience teaching English in China, I can bluntly tell you, and I share my opinion with some other "survivors," that you're wasting...
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Diarmuid Fogarty
diarmuid_fog...
Sep 15, 2006 10:40 pm
Hi Peter To begin first of all by reacting to your comment that dogme has an important message for education: I think we should be clear, in order to avoid...
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Robert M. Haines
romiha1
Sep 16, 2006 12:04 am
I've just read Diarmuid's post to the bitter end. I'm reminded of Dennis' once telling em what a friend of his said about how unreasonable it is to expect...
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pannazosia@...
zosienka46
Sep 17, 2006 6:54 am
... I was reading Diarmuid's post nodding my head until it nearly fell off but here I stopped (all for the better, otherwise I would get really dizzy). based...
