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Hi Mabel,

What you need is called “overland” passenger or traveller lists. Some trains in some periods did keep such records. Louis Rasmussen has published at least two volumes of such lists in his series “Railway passenger lists of overland trains to San Francisco and the West.” Another book is “Overland to California with the Pioneer Line,” although it is not comprised of lists but is a diary in which names and fates of some people are mentioned.

I am not sure if overland travel in Canada was recorded that much, but certainly for cross-border travel the border crossing lists are the most common way to find travellers whether they travelled by train or other means. Certain conductors did keep lists but few of these lists survive. There is a book called “Overland route through British North America” by Waddington, published in 1868. I am not sure if it contains any names of travellers. Also you have not stated a timeframe for the travellers you have in mind.

The destination certainly could have been purchased all at once if the person was coming from overseas and proceeding overland immediately upon arrival. These were usually called “inclusive through tickets.” In my grandparents’ effects, I found their “ticket” with the stub removed. The remaining � page document states how they will get from Antwerp to Montreal and then how they will proceed from there. My grandmother said that those from steerage who were traveling inland by train were put overnight in a basement holding room until they were boarded on the train the following day. She said she knew it was “underground” because she could see through the windows at the top of the room (the only source of light) the shoes of passers-by on the street outside. In other words, the complete trip from Antwerp to Alberta was ticketed and paid for prior to their departure.

Xenia

From: owner-dist-gen@... [mailto:owner-dist-gen@...] On Behalf Of Mabel Kiessling
Sent: November 17, 2009 8:34 AM
To: dist-gen@...
Subject: Immigrant Train Passengers

Hello fellow dist-gen members:

Does anyone know if passenger lists exist for immigrants that took trains from the port of Montreal to their destinations, either in Canada or the U.S.? Are Border Crossing Records the only way to know?

Thanks for any help on this question.

Mabel Kiessling

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#5806

From: "Charlie Hansen" <4Charlie@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:29 pm
Subject: My Early Calgarians on the Web Computer SIG Presentation Nov. 14

4Charlie@...

I have extracted the comments and URLs from my PowerPoint presentation to the Genealogical Computing SIG on November 14 to an "Early Calgarians.rtf" file with, I hope, clickable links. {Select the full URL and click it.] I have not tried to change the fonts from that used in my PPT file, so text size will be large.

Would anyone wishing to have a copy send me an e-mail and I will send that file as an attachment. If you wish, I can send the PowerPoint file but as those of you were at the meeting will recall, I had some troubles with the fonts with using a different computer.

Regards,

Charlie Hansen

4charlie@...

#5807

From: "Wendy Pitcher" <wpitcher@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:18 am
Subject: Calgary Family History Centre

wpitcher@...

I have just received word that Monday November 30^th, 2009 will be the last day that we will have the “UK 1911 Census” available. I do not know if or when we will have them again. A few larger Centres in London and in USA will have access but no others. I am sorry to have to report this but if you need to use this resource then please do so this week.

Wendy Pitcher, Director CFHC

#5808

From: Lois Sparling <lsparling@...>
Date: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:59 am
Subject: Celtic SIG

lsparling@...

The next meeting of the Celtic SIG is tomorrow night, Wed. Nov 25 at 7
PM at the AFHS library.  The library is located at 712 - 16th Ave NW.
There is parking between our building and the bar next door to the
west.  The bar recently changed its name to Fat Jack's or something like
that.  We will be solving Irish research problems.

Lois Sparling

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#5809

From: "Lorna Laughton" <lornalaughton@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:11 pm
Subject: about Ancestors in the Attic

lornalaughton@...

http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazed/gazed192.htm

Hi Everyone:

The following article about the TV program Ancestors in the Attic was referenced in the newsletter from Global Genealogy yesterday. I thought that you might be interested that this program is starting again in January.

Lorna

+ + + +

Ancestors in the Attic - Season IV Premieres January 7, 2010
Updated: 25 November 2009
By: Rick Roberts, Biography & Archived Articles

Fans of the popular Gemini-nominated (Best Documentary Series) Ancestors in the Attic will be delighted to learn that the series returns for its fourth season on January 7, 2010 on History Television (in Canada) at 6pm and 9pm. The program will air each Thursday at those times. This promises to be the best season yet as the sleuths at Ancestors In The Attic help Canadians find lost relatives and discover the truth behind their unsolved family mysteries.

The bewildering part of this story is that the series has not been renewed for the fifth season... yet. History Television is waiting to see what the ratings look like in 2010. We encourage you to mark your calendar, check out the show, and let History Channel know that this is the kind of television programming that you want to see.

This week, producer Dugald Maudsely explained that in this upcoming season "Ancestors In The Attic will travel to Belarus to help a Canadian woman search for her sister lost during the Russian Revolution, to Ukraine to discover how Stalin's Reign of Terror split one family and to China to try and uncover the secret a father would never tell his daughter. We will also journey to Switzerland, Denmark, German, France and Italy in search of a black market baby, the life and death story of a Canadian soldier and the secret that nearly destroyed a Manitoba family. Using remarkable resources available to anyone, Ancestors In The Attic will again provide unexpected, emotional and often life-changing answers to the genealogical questions that haunt many Canadians."

As mentioned, Ancestors In The Attic has not been commissioned for a fifth season. If you enjoy the show and would like to see more, this upcoming season is the one to watch and to tell your friends and family about.

It is also time to start filling History Television's inbox with messages of support for the continuation of Ancestors In The Attic for a fifth season. To send an email to History Television (Canada) click here, then scroll to the bottom of the resulting page where there is an email form.

Here's an overview of each of the Season IV programs beginning in the New Year on History Television (Canada):

· EPISODE AA4040 - January 7, 2010 @ 6pm/9pm
THE CHINESE CONNECTION
When she was in grade three Denice Brown of Kingston, Nova Scotia made a startling discovery - she was part Chinese. Despite asking, her father refused to ever tell her anything about her Chinese ancestry or about his life before arriving in Canada. All Denice could ever discover was the rumour that her grandfather, Au Kim Lee, was one of the first Chinese immigrants in Newfoundland. All her life Denice realized that something dramatic must have happened to her father back in China, something so fundamental he cut all ties with his Chinese family. Now, with the help of Ancestors in the Attic, Denice is returning to her father's homeland to discover what caused his silence and to see if she can uncover her Chinese connection.

· EPISODE AA4041 - January 7, 2010 @ 6:30pm/9:30pm
THE LEGEND OF CYRIL GARDNER
Jonathan Hart is an unusual 15-year-old: while his friends are off chasing girls, Jonathan's been chasing a mystery. Obsessed with all things military, Jonathan, who is from Clarenville, Newfoundland, has long been captivated by the legend of Cyril Gardner, a relative who fought in World War One. Twice decorated, Cyril received the Distinguished Conduct Medal for a remarkable act of bravery - taking 72German soldiers prisoner in the midst of a front line battle. But Cyril's courage didn't stop there. Legend has it that when a British officer tried to execute the German prisoners, Cyril intervened and saved their lives. Out of gratitude, one of the prisoners took an Iron Cross from his own uniform and pinned it to Cyril's chest. Now, 80 years later, Jonathan has undertaken a mission: find the Iron Cross and prove the legend true. With the help of Ancestors in the Attic, Jonathan is about to embark on a journey that will take him all the way from Clarenville, Newfoundland, to the battlefields of France.

· EPISODE AA4042 - January 14, 2010 @ 6pm/9pm
AL LAMBERT- ESCAPE FROM BEHIND ENEMY LINES
Albert Lambert was a navigator and squadron commander during World War II. In July 1943, his plane was shot down over German-occupied France and he went missing. For five unbearable months, his family feared the worst. Then, one day, they received the good news: Al was alive. He had escaped to Spain.

Although Al Lambert lived a long life, he never told his children or grandchildren what happened during those five months in France. Now, 65 years later, Al's grandson, Chris Lambert of Saint John, New Brunswick, has decided to begin a journey to retrace his grandfather's footsteps and discover, if he can, the people who helped save Al Lambert's life.

· EPISODE AA4043 - January 14, 2010 @ 6:30pm/9:30pm
CLEM & ANGUS
Neither Tami Georgi of Wetaskiwin, AB, nor Kathie Mackie of Toronto, ON, planned to fall for a World War One soldier. A few years ago, Tami bought a batch of post cards on EBay. When they arrived, she discovered six post cards written by Clement Peake, a young Canadian soldier from Halifax. Clement was writing home from the front lines of World War One. Tami was immediately captivated. Kathie found her soldier in an abandoned house in Cape Breton. When she was a little girl, she discovered two letters written by Angus Morrison to his sister Katie. Moved by the affection evident for his distant sister, Kathie kept the letters for decades.

Now, both Kathie and Tami have asked Ancestors in the Attic for help in finding their soldiers' families. Two women, two WWI soldiers, two quests to find their families and, finally, bring these young men home.

· EPISODE AA4044 - January 21, 2010 @ 6pm/9pm
JOURNEY TO ORTONA
On Christmas Eve 1943, 28-year-old Melville Madden was in the thick of one of the bloodiest battles in the history of the Canadian military - the Battle of Ortona. Like the rest of his regiment, Madden was looking forward to an historic Christmas dinner organized by his unit, the Seaforth Highlanders. But he was also looking forward to something even more important - a Christmas reunion with his older brother, Cecil, who was also fighting in Italy. Unfortunately, Melville never arrived at their reunion. Sometime on Christmas Eve he was killed in action. To this day, his family has no idea how he died.

Until now. Julian Sacher, a high school student from Lacombe, Alberta - Melville Madden's hometown - is about to embark on a journey to Ortona. With the help of Ancestors in the Attic, he will try to discover the truth behind Madden's death, and, if he can, finally answer the questions Melville's family have asked for more than 65 years.

· EPISODE AA4045 - January 21, 2010 @ 6:30pm/9:30pm
SIDOR'S SAGA
In 1928, when he was 24, Sidor Cembrowski fled Eastern Europe to build a better life for himself in Canada. But he never forgot his family back home, and treasured the letters he received from them. But after World War Two, and the fall of the Iron Curtain on his homeland, the letters stopped. Although he tried, Sidor couldn't contact his family and died never knowing whether they survived the war or Stalin's Reign of Terror.

Now, Sidor's oldest daughter, Millie, and his great-granddaughter Annamari, of Charlie Lake, B.C., want to fulfill Sidor's dying wish and find his lost family. With Ancestors in the Attic, they are about to journey back to Ukraine, to try to reconnect with their ancestral roots and make their family completely again.

· EPISODE AA4046 - January 28, 2010 @ 6pm/9pm
SLAVERY ROOTS
Bob Stoutley, of Milton, ON, is white. But recently he made a stunning discovery: his father may have taken a dramatic family secret to his grave. Digging into his family history Bob had stumbled across a man claiming they shared the same grandfather, and that this grandfather was Black. Unfortunately, Bob's own father had already passed away, and there was no one left in his family to tell him the truth. So Bob turned to Ancestors in the Attic. Now he is about to begin a journey that will take him to Canada's east coast in search of answers about his family's roots, and the secret his father kept hidden until his dying day.

· EPISODE AA4047 - January 28 @ 6:30pm/9:30pm
RUSSIAN DAUGHTER
When the Bolsheviks took power in Russia, Nicolas Makletzoff - an officer in the White Army - was forced to flee the country to avoid execution. Left behind was his 13-year-old daughter, Natalia. Eventually ending up in Canada, Nicolas spent the rest of his life desperately trying to find Natalia, but never saw his Russian daughter again.

At the age of 60, Nicolas had another daughter who he named Natalie. But when Natalie was just 18, Nicolas died. Now, nearly 40 years after his death, Natalie, who lives in Thunder Bay, ON, wants to fulfill her father's lifelong dream and discover what happened to Natalia. With Ancestors in the Attic, she will journey all the way to Belarus, in search of her half-sister, her father's Russian daughter.

· EPISODE AA4048 - February 4, 2010 @ 6pm/9pm
THE SECRET
When she was eight years old, Marguerite Ogilvie, from Lac Du Bonnet, MB, secretly read a letter from her German aunt. In it, she discovered that her grandmother, Minna, had died "a horrible death" during WWII. But Marguerite's mother, Charlotte, would never reveal what happened to Minna, and after WWII ended Charlotte suffered a nervous breakdown. Marguerite's life was never the same again. All her life Marguerite was haunted by the death of her grandmother and the possibility that her mother's illness was brought on by the guilt of being unable to save her.

Now, at the age of 66, Marguerite Ogilvie has finally decided to go in search of answers and discover whether it was her grandmother's "horrible death" that caused her mother's breakdown and the destruction of her own life. To uncover the truth she will have to journey to Denmark and Germany, find her lost family and expose a piece of history kept secret for more than half a century.

· EPISODE AA4049 - February 4 @ 6:30pm/9:30pm
BLACK MARKET BABY?
At the age of 29, Christiane Weideli, from Vancouver, B.C., discovered that much of her life had been a lie. The people who had raised her were not her real parents, and she was not born in Peru, as she had thought. Instead, she had been adopted as a baby from Switzerland. Now in her forties, Christiane desperately wants to find her biological family. But there is a catch: her adoption may have been illegal and Christiane may be a black market baby.

Undeterred by this enormous challenge, Christiane has decided to return to Switzerland and, with the help of Ancestors in the Attic, search for clues to her hidden past and find, if she can, the parents who gave her up.

And finally, take a moment to help History Television know that you watch and enjoy Ancestors In The Attic and want to see it renewed for a fifth season. Click here, then scroll to the bottom of the resulting page where you can let History Channel know that you want to see more episodes of Ancestors in the Attic.

Rick Roberts
GlobalGenealogy.com

#5810

From: "Christine Hayes" <Christine.Hayes@...>
Date: Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: Monday's meeting

Christine.Hayes@...

Our meeting on Monday (December 7) is a bring and brag. We have nine members who will be bringing their heirlooms and they will tell us the stories behind these treasures. The meeting is River Park Church, 3818 14 A Street SW, from 7-9 PM. If anyone would like to bring a small plate of goodies to share at break time, please do. We will also be collecting for the food bank so if you would like to bring a non-perishable food item, we will make arrangements to get these to the food bank. Any questions? Contact me at afhsprograms@...

See you there

Christine Hayes

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#5811

From: "Linda Murray & Mark Misunis" <misunism@...>
Date: Fri Dec 4, 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: Library Closed Today

misunism@...

Hi Everyone,
The AFHS Library is closed today because of the snow.  Sorry for the late
notice.  If you planning a trip to the library tomorrow please check first
to see if we are open.  If the snow continues we may close tomorrow as well.
Thanks,
Linda Murray
Library Chair

#5812

From: "Donna Kirkwood" <dekirkwood@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 3:34 am
Subject: QUEBEC SIG MTG CANCELLATION

dekirkwood@...

Good evening Everyone,

FYI The Quebec Sig meeting for tomoorow has been cancelled due to inclimate weather/driving conditions which are not likely to inprove significantly by noon tomorrow.

Seasons Greetings to all.

Donna Kirkwood

Quebec Sig

#5813

From: "Linda Murray & Mark Misunis" <misunism@...>
Date: Sat Dec 5, 2009 7:25 am
Subject: Library Closure for Saturday Dec 5th

misunism@...

Hi Everyone,
The AFHS Library will be closed on Dec 5th as a result of this storm and the
resulting road conditions.  Stay warm and safe and do some research at home!
Linda Murray
Library Chair

#5814

From: Gord Hulbert <Gordon@...>
Date: Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:57 am
Subject: Computer SIG Meeting - 12 Dec 09

Gordon@...

Computer SIG Meeting

12 Dec 09

Lounge Area
of the
LDS Family History Centre,
17 Ave & 19A St. SW

"Beginner Session" @ 9:30 AM

"Main Session" @ 10:30 AM

Topic: "Christmas Goodies"

Facilitator: Mrs. Claus (AKA Donna Coulter)

Send your ideas to Mrs. Claus
(coulterd@...)

-- Regards,
Gord
"I'm in my snapdragon phase -- part of me has snapped and the other part is draggin."

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#5815

From: Gord Hulbert <Gordon@...>
Date: Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:57 pm
Subject: Computer SIG Meeting - 12 Dec 09

Gordon@...

Send your ideas to Mrs. Claus
(coulterd@...)

-- Regards,
Gord
"I'm in my snapdragon phase -- part of me has snapped and the other part is draggin."

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#5816

From: Joan Miller <luxegen@...>
Date: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:02 am
Subject: Women Pioneers of Saskatchewan BOOK 2

luxegen@...

Women Pioneers of Saskatchewan Book 2

Hi all,

I just received a notice that there will be a Women Pioneers of Saskatchewan Book 2 published.� (I wrote an article about Grandmother Isabel Irvine in Book 1, due out in January 2010).

�

Deadline for submissions for book 2 is May 31/10 if anyone is interested.

�

Details are here:

�

Cheers,

Joan Miller

�

#5817

From: Gord Hulbert <Gordon@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:34 pm
Subject: Computer SIG Meeting - 12 Dec 09 - IMPORTANT NOTICE

Gordon@...

Hi all:

With the poor weather and driving conditions, Mrs. Claus (Donna Coulter) will not be able to make it in from the North Pole (Nanton, AB) to attend our upcoming 'Xmas Goodies' Saturday meeting. Instead we will 'ad lib' the program, as we have done very well in the past. Since the weather looks poor for Saturday, if you plan to attend, PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAIL SATURDAY MORNING to see if the meeting has been canceled entirely.

-- Regards,
Gord
"I'm in my snapdragon phase -- part of me has snapped and the other part is draggin."

#5818

From: Gord Hulbert <Gordon@...>
Date: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:55 pm
Subject: Computer SIG Meeting - 12 Dec 09

Gordon@...

Hi all:

I've just talked to the our main-man, Jim Benedict, and a corporate decision has be made to CANCEL Saturday's meeting. The weather outlook is extremely poor. To make matters worse, Mrs. Claus has had to send her regrets. Have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy, Prosperous New Year. See you all again at our next meeting 09 Jan 2010.

-- Regards,
Gord
"I'm in my snapdragon phase -- part of me has snapped and the other part is draggin."

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#5819

From: "Linda Murray & Mark Misunis" <misunism@...>
Date: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:57 pm
Subject: Library Closed today

misunism@...

Hi Everyone,
We are closed today as the current weather is -36� C with the wind chill and
the library would be cold! We are scheduled to be open this Thursday,
December 17th (9 - 3) but that will again depend on weather conditions.
Stay warm.
Linda Murray
AFHS Library Chair

#5820

From: Joan Miller <luxegen@...>
Date: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:16 pm
Subject: Arizona Family History Expo Jan 22-23

luxegen@...

Hi all,

Is anyone else going to the Arizona Family History Expo the last weekend in January?� If so do you want to meet up?

�

Details on my webpage at Luxegen Genealogy and Family History.

�

cheers,

Joan Miller

Proud Blogger of Honor

Arizona Family History Expo

#5821

From: "ANN WILLIAMS" <astridge@...>
Date: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:29 pm
Subject: JANUARY BREEZE

astridge@...

If anyone has announcements for the January Breeze please send to me by Thursday, December 31st � Thanks & Merry Christmas, Ann Williams

#5822

From: "Louise Calderbank" <lcalderbank@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:32 am
Subject: Re: Alberta Birth Death and Marriages

lcalderbank@...

Land Title records can be a good source of information to help build the family history story and establish when and where a family was living with more exact dates than provided by say the Henderson Directory entries. Not too expensive and some of the records are accessible online. This had worked for me in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Cheers

Bruce

----- Original Message -----

From: E.Rodier

To: Leslie Grauer ; dist-gen@...

Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 12:16 PM

Subject: Re: Alberta Birth Death and Marriages

http://www.ourfutureourpast.ca/newspapr/np_home.asp

Hi Leslie,

There is a local history tab as well as the newspaper tab at this link. Families that stayed in a community or maintained connections contributed family stories to the local history books published around 1967 or later. I often used this web site while working on 1906 census for Alberta. Family names might be spelled a different way in every census so it helps to know the location of a farm or residence. Uncle Al never lived in Airdrie but his birth was registered there in 1918. Family lived on a farm about ten miles west at the time.

Researchers can contact a specific church or school to ask about history books. One of the Presbyterian churches has a newly published 1905-2005 history of church staff and families that isn't currently listed in the local history room of the downtown Calgary Public Library.

Well worth looking in old (online) newspapers if the researcher has a date for any early Alberta birth, marriage or death. I found small notices for many relatives and their friends around 1906-1914. Also learned about the funeral arrangements for the mother of a former Calgary mayor. Family researchers using cemetery records assumed she died in Ontario but she lived in Calgary several years at the end of life and appeared in one or two census households with her son's family.

In the same family, there was a worn sandstone marker at Union Cemetery for three children who died in the 1880s, probably moved from the earlier cemetery. See http://www.ucalgary.ca/~dsucha/unionhist.html for cemetery history. Death date for one infant seemed to be different on the father's tombstone in another section of the cemetery. Death notice from the Calgary Herald solved the mystery when the death registrations were uncertain.

http://www.legacy.com/can-calgary/Obituaries.asp

Newspaper online archives for recent obits start May 3, 2002 -- link near the bottom of the screen.

No development or change to our old Junior High School left vacant several years. Some of the items were still in the museum near Mr. Kennedy's room the last time a former student asked. -- Elizabeth Rodier aka Alice

----- Original Message -----

From: Leslie Grauer

To: dist-gen@...

Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:30 PM

Subject: Alberta Birth Death and Marriages

As the facilitator of the Canadian group with the British Columbia Genealogical Society, I am preparing a talk for your fellow researchers who now live in B.C. Being a Calgarian and having several pioneer ancestors in Alberta, I have been pretty successful finding data for my own family, but would very much welcome any hints you might have on researching Alberta ancestor BMDs beyond the obvious contacts to the Ministry, Archives, the AFHS and its website, the Edmonton group, Alberta Digital Archives etc., all the obvious associations in Calgary and Edmonton with research capacity who I will recommend anyway, as they did some great research for me. It appears that most of the audience here are not novice researchers, so I am looking for "extra hints" on BMDs.

Beyond the obvious sources, do any of you have any hints? some stories? to share on successes re: researching specific churches, records or any databases that I may have overlooked or might not have been on my radar? I know less about Northern Alberta.

Thanks so much in advance and, just so you know, I am very serious about crediting my sources!

Leslie Grauer

Facilitator, Canadian Group

British Columbia Genealogical Society

#5823

From: "ANN WILLIAMS" <astridge@...>
Date: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:19 pm
Subject: FFHS 2009 REPORT

astridge@...

The AFHS is a member of the British-based FFHS (Federation of Family History Societies) - as the FFHS's contact person I have received this report on sources that have (or will) become available to us:

The Chairman's 2009
Christmas Message

Good day from Cornwall

Family Historians have had an interesting year with the release of the 1911 Census and the full release of the available Soldiers Service Records from the First World War.

There are many other records that have been released over the past twelve months, some of them more specific and local to your societies.

The future still looks bright and over the coming five years I hope that the Red Cross records of field burials and prisoners of war will be indexed and made available on-line by the 100th anniversary of the First World War in 2014.

Just over a month ago the GRO announced the digitization of the Births Marriages & Deaths records was moving forward after a period where it was static. This can only be good news for family historians around the world.

The National Library of Wales has made 193,000 wills available online. These have been available to view within the library for some time but the ability to view them online is a quantum leap forward. Visit the National Archives of Wales Family History Resources page at http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=247

In Ireland the 1911 census has been made available for all 32 counties. This census and its images are available for free and I would recommend everyone to dip into the resource and have a look at it. You never know if one of your relatives unexpectedly ended up there. Visit their site at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie.

Can I make a special mention of our overseas members. Your membership is valued by us and I know from my conversations with many of you that you feel the need to maintain the link with the FFHS. I am keen to try and improve the benefits we can provide for you. One of the benefits we have been able to make available is a period of free access to the FindMyPast service for short periods of time such as fairs or family history courses.

When this service was first announced the first society to take it up was one of our member societies in Australia. If you want to know how to take advantage of this service, you should contact the Sales Team of FindMyPast on sales@...

Whilst there have been many highs during the year, we must not forget the lows - ongoing issues concerning closure of archives or reduced opening hours. It is important that we, the FFHS continue to make our voice heard and represent the views of our members whenever and wherever possible.

Finally I hope that you will find 2010 as not only the start of a new decade but a time to move family history forward for your society and that the coming year will be a prosperous one as we hopefully start to move out of the period of recession.

May I wish you all the best for Christmas and the New Year.

David HOLMAN
Chairman
The Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS)
chairman@...

#5824

From: "Roger Leach" <roger.leach@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:27 am
Subject: Recommendation for genealogy software for Mac OS X

roger.leach@...

Hi to all Mac users

My 93 year old father in law is anxious to record his family tree and has a Mac. As a diehard PC person I do not know what to reccommend. Something simple will suffice as I doubt he will be publishing.

Suggestions welcome

Merry Xmas

Roger

#5825

From: Peter <peter.van.schaik@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:36 am
Subject: Re: Recommendation for genealogy software for Mac OS X

peter.van.schaik@...

Roger Leach wrote:
> Hi to all Mac users
> My 93 year old father in law is anxious to record his family tree and
> has a Mac. As a diehard PC person I do not know what to recommend.
> Something simple will suffice as I doubt he will be publishing.
> Suggestions welcome
> Merry Xmas
> Roger

Roger the following might be helpful. The document is a couple
of years old, so some info might be outdated.

MacGenealogy.org - http://www.macgenealogy.org/
MacGenealogy.Org's goal: - to keep Mac users informed of the
latest news and information concerning genealogy on the
Macintosh platform. We hope to increase awareness of genealogy
software for the Macintosh platform, as well as assist Mac
users with their genealogy questions. We hope to encourage
development of current and additional genealogy software that
runs on the Macintosh platform.

Macintosh Genealogy Software -
http://genealogy.about.com/od/software_mac/
Find family tree software programs written for the Macintosh
operating system, with descriptions, reviews, free trial
versions, comparisons, and tips from Mac users.

OSX Applications

MacFamilyTree Version 4.0.10 (Jan 2005)  Requires OS X 10.2.6
Cost $45
This Mac-only family tree shareware program offers versions in
a variety of different languages, including English, French
(MacG�n�alogie), German (MacStammbaum), Italian (Mac
Genealogia) and Spanish (Genealog�aMac), are also available.

OhmiGene Version 0.50b2 (Dec 2004)  Requires MacOS X  Cost
Free (for now)
With OHMIGENE it is possible :
- to create and to manage genealogies, to import GEDCOM files,
to export files in the format GEDCOM, to publish genealogy in
a website.

SeeGEDCOMX Version 0.8b2 (Sep 2004)  Requires OS X 10.1.5 Cost
Free
SeeGEDCOMX is a minimalist genealogy program for the
Macintosh, started before MacOS X made minimalism fashionable.
Originally a browser application for GEDCOM files, it has
become a much more general application. You can now use it to
create a family history from scratch, to maintain an existing
family history stored as a GEDCOM document, or simply to
browse your GEDCOM documents and downloads.

GEDitCOM Version 3.70 beta 3 (Aug 2004)  Requires OS X 10+
Cost $49.99
GEDitCOM is the customizable genealogy application for the
Macintosh for editing and viewing GEDCOM genealogy files.
Using the GEDitCOM customization features, you can design your
own genealogy user interface. Or, if you prefer, you can use
the Default Format that comes with GEDitCOM and provides a
powerful, user-friendly interface with 100% access to all
features of the GEDCOM standard.

HEREDIS Mac X Version 10.1.5 (Jun 2004)  Requires OS X 10+
Cost $69
This French genealogy software program comes in two versions
for Macintosh - Heredis Classic and Heredis Pro. The Mac
version also comes in German, but Heredis' foray into the
English-speaking genealogy market seems to be concentrating on
Windows.

Reunion  Version 8.05 Requires OS X 10.1.3+ Cost $99
Reunion records names, dates, places, facts, plenty of notes,
sources of information, pictures, sounds, and videos. Families
are linked in an easy-to-understand fashion.
Reunion makes it easy to publish your family tree information
-- even if you want to share it on the Web. You can
automatically create common genealogy reports, charts,  and
forms, as well as birthday calendars, mailing lists,
questionnaires, indexes, and other lists. Reunion even
calculates relationships, ages, life expectancies, and
statistics.
Reunion also creates large, high-resolution, graphic charts
allowing complete on-screen editing of boxes, lines, fonts,
and colors. Wall charts are one of its specialties.

GenerationX Version 2.4.1 (Nov 2003)  Requires OS X 10.2+ Cost
Free/GPL
GenerationX is a genealogy tool designed specifically for
weekend hobbyists. GenX is the first application of its kind
developed entirely in Cocoa and optimized for Mac OS X.
GenerationX has been praised by the hobbyist community and
bundled with publications by Family History Monthly Magazine.

Genealogy Pro Version 1.02 (May 2003)  Requires OS X 10+ Cost Free
Genealogy Pro is a freeware software program for storing
family relationships and drawing family trees.
It features:
	 �  A database to store familial relationships
�  Easy creation of sophisticated family tree charts,
including horizontal, vertical, ancestor, descendant charts,
and various formatting options
	 �  An expandable database that allows creation of custom fields

GenScribe Version 1.1 Requires OS 8.5+*, OS X 10+ Cost $12
GenScribe is a family history research tracking and
record-keeping program, designed to help you plan and manage
your genealogy research.
		 Here are some of the things you can do using GenScribe:
	 �  Create research "to do" lists for any given venue.
	 �  Record the actual research data that you find (GenScribe
includes standard text entry fields as well as templates for
the 1790-1880 and 1900-1920 U.S. censuses).
	 �  Keep track of your genealogy correspondence, including
dates of correspondence and money that you've paid for
research or to cover costs.

TreeTracker Version 1.1 (Jul 2003) Requires OS X 10.1+ Cost $21.95
The purpose of TreeTracker is to make it easy for family
historians and genealogists to track and organize family
photos and their lineage. The interface is designed to be "the
simplest tool that could possibly work."
OS 8/9 Classic Apps

SeeGEDCOMX Version 0.8b2 (Sep 2004)  Requires OS 8.6*, OS X
10.1.5 Cost Free
	 See description above

GEDitCOM Version 3.70 beta 3 (Aug 2004)  Requires OS 8.1+*, OS
X 10+ Cost $49.99
	 See description above

HEREDIS Mac X Version 10.1.5 (Jun 2004)  Requires OS 9.1* Cost $69
	 See description above

MacFamilyTree Version 3.6.7 (May 2004)  Requires OS 9.1* Cost $30
	 See description above

Reunion Version 8.05 Requires OS 8.5+*, OS X 10.1.3+ Cost $99
	 See description above

GENE Version 4.3.4 Requires OS 8.5+*, Cost $15
Gene is a shareware genealogy database for the Macintosh
written by David and Diana Eppstein. You can use Gene to store
family data and notes, draw and print family trees and
pedigree charts, create web pages from your database, and
exchange GEDCOM data with users of other genealogy programs.
Gene is capable of handling complicated databases with
thousands of names, multiple marriages and divorces,
adoptions, illegitimate children, and intermarriage between
relatives.

GenScribe Version 1.1 Requires OS 8.5+*, OS X 10+ Cost $12
See description above

--
Groetjes
Peter
http://familyrecordfinder.com/

My computer problems are caused by a loose nut
between the chair and the keyboard.

#5826

From: Joan Miller <luxegen@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:10 am
Subject: Re: Recommendation for genealogy software for Mac OS X

luxegen@...

Luxegen Genealogy and Family History

I'm curious if any of you have experience with genealogy apps for an iphone?� I would like to carry my gedcom around with me.

�

Thanks,

�

Joan Miller

#5827

From: Mary Arthur <maryarthur@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:00 am
Subject: Re: Recommendation for genealogy software for Mac OS X

maryarthur@...

Reunion, the genealogical software for Mac that I happily use, has an app that allows you to put your entire file on the iphone. Getting it back and forth can be frustrating, from what I read, but if you are only looking at the file, it works.

On 22-Dec-09, at 18:10, Joan Miller wrote:

I'm curious if any of you have experience with genealogy apps for an iphone? I would like to carry my gedcom around with me.

Thanks,

Joan Miller

Luxegen Genealogy and Family History

#5828

From: Joan Miller <luxegen@...>
Date: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:07 am
Subject: Re: Recommendation for genealogy software for Mac OS X

luxegen@...

http://genealogy.about.com/b/2009/06/22/genealogy-apps-for-the-iphone-and-ipod-touch.htm

Hi Mary,

I'm using Family Tree Maker on a PC so it would need to be a gedcom I move across.�

Someone sent me this page of Genealogy Apps

�

thanks everyone for your comments and suggestions.

�

Joan Miller

�

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Mary Arthur <maryarthur@...> wrote:

Reunion, the genealogical software for Mac that I happily use, has an app that allows you to put your entire file on the iphone. Getting it back and forth can be frustrating, from what I read, but if you are only looking at the file, it works.

On 22-Dec-09, at 18:10, Joan Miller wrote:

I'm curious if any of you have experience with genealogy apps for an iphone?� I would like to carry my gedcom around with me.

�

Thanks,

�

Joan Miller

Luxegen Genealogy and Family History

#5829

From: "Donna Snyder" <snyderda@...>
Date: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:18 am
Subject: Program for Mac

snyderda@...

Hi All - I know this has been discussed here before, but since it didn't involve me, I didn't pay much attention. So please, forgive my bringing it up again. My daughter has Legacy on her home computer, and she has a Mac laptop. Here is her request:

I was wondering if you would send an email out to your Genealogy Guru's asking about Family Tree programs for Mac Computers. There seems to be a couple including Reunion and MacFamilyTree. I'm looking for feed back before I make a purchase. Thanks.

Thanks for your help,

Donna Snyder

#5830

From: "Christine Hayes" <Christine.Hayes@...>
Date: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:54 pm
Subject: Monday meeting

Christine.Hayes@...

Hello,

Our program topic for Monday's meeting is Desperation Genealogy: What the rest of us can learn from Irish researchers. A group from the Celtic SIG will talk about the strategies they have used to overcome the loss of records many of us take for granted. This can be very helpful to those of us encountering our own "brick walls."

#5831

From: Shari Peyerl <shari+afhs@...>
Date: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:26 am
Subject: request for help: Glenbow town and quarry

shari+afhs@...

Hi,

I'm new to the list because another list member suggested this would be a good
place to ask for help.

I am working on a project for the Archaeological Society of Alberta, Calgary
Centre. We are doing research on the town and quarry of Glenbow. It falls within
Alberta's newest provincial park and is located just east of  Cochrane, Alberta.
We have mapped the remains of the village, which was built for quarry workers
about 1909. The quarry did not last long and closed before the First World War.
The village lasted a little longer and we think the last residents left in the
late 1920s.

We have already checked the Calgary Public Library, University of Calgary, and
the Glenbow Library and Archives for any available resources. We have census
data, some newspaper articles, some private diary entries, some interviews with
Cochrane old-timers made in the 1970s, some general maps and air photos, and one
photograph from the end of the 1920s.

We are looking for any additional information regarding the village,
particularly photographs or maps, which would help us identify the buildings we
have mapped and would identify the quarry bunkhouse.

Any help would be appreciated.

#5832

From: "Christine Hayes" <Christine.Hayes@...>
Date: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:09 am
Subject: Monday Meeting

Christine.Hayes@...

Sorry everyone - I didn't make it clear in the last posting to distgen that the meeting on Monday is at the River Park Church 3818 14 A Street SW starting at 7 PM.

Christine

Reply | Messages in this Topic (2)

#5833

From: william campbell <wacampbell@...>
Date: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:31 am
Subject: CALGARY HERALD MISLEADS READERS

wacampbell@...

Hi Folks:

For those of you who read the article 'Discovering Your Roots' by Lesley Anderson in the Dec 28 edition of the Herald (Page C 14) I'm sure you will be upset with how it mislead and gave no credence to any of the genealogy organizations in Alberta. The following piece was submitted today to the Herald Editor and hopefully will appear on the Editorial page.
You are encouraged to also write to the Editor to express your displeasure with the Herald's lack of credibility.
An email can be addressed to Letters@...
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Re:'Discovering Your Roots' - Lesley Anderson Dec 28

Ms. Anderson's suggestion that families can benefit from exchanging and recording family information when they meet on holiday occasions has commendable merit. However, it should have reached readers before the Christmas festivities, not after. Sadly, her article is grossly misleading in leaving readers with the misunderstanding that they can just plug in the internet and find their ancestors and their stories. As a genealogist involved with one of this country's leading genealogy institutions she knows much better than that. Internet research is both highly complex and often inaccurate - caveat emptor!

Had the Editor thought to check with local genealogy authorities, Ms. Anderson's information could have served readers much more effectively. It could have pointed out the enormous genealogy resources that are available in Calgary - including the Calgary Public Library – Humanities Dept., the LDS Family History Centre, the Glenbow Archives and of course our Alberta Family Histories Society and its library, just to name the most prominent ones. What a disappointment! The Herald clearly missed the boat.

Our Society is the pre-eminent independent Calgary volunteer-based genealogy organization and would welcome the opportunity to help all those who are sincerely trying to research and write a history of their families. Call 403-214-1447 or visit www.afhs.ab.ca

Bill Campbell

Alberta Family Histories Society

Public Relations

-- "People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to their ancestors." - Edmund Burke
WILLIAM CAMPBELL
CALGARY, Alberta, CANADA

#5834

From: "Donna Snyder" <snyderda@...>
Date: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:44 pm
Subject: MAC Programs

snyderda@...

Thank you all who replied to my daughter's question about Family History programs for MAC. I have forwarded them on to her and on her behalf thank you for your help. I leave it in her hands.

Happy New Year all.

Donna Snyder