Hi all:

I am just learning Digital SSTV, and have learned how to receive pix,
and have received some, on 40 and 20 meters.  Have also learned how to
load up and send pix...

However, when I try to send, either with tune or transmit, my Kaspersky
Antivirus program reports that Easypal is trying to execute a trojan
loader in some temp directory, and zaps it.  My Malwarebytes progrom
also thinks that Easypal.exe contains a trojan loader...

I have read some of the reflector and forum stuff about this problem,
whether it is real or not.

As far as I can tell, I have not been infected with the trojan, since
Kaspersky zaps what it thinks is the loader....

Be all that as it may, I just want to bypass the problem and get on with
learning to do more with digital SSTV.

While I am setting up another computer, not on the internet, to run
Easypal, I would like to run some other program to receive and send
digital SSTV, on my main machine.  Is there such a program?

Any recommendations on other programs???

thanks,

Larry
KA5T
Georgetown, Texas

Anti-Viri programs are not perfect. The do NOT scan for a particular item
of malware as such, rather they use various forms of digital
"signatures" (among lots of other things) to detect suspect files.
Sometimes this can result in a false positive, i.e. an infection free
program is flagged as having a problem.

Some months ago a poorly defined signature file on one of the major AV
products caused a system file to be flagged as infected. That caused a
lot of trouble until it was fixed. (withing a few hours as I recall)

You need to convince yourself that such a false positive is actually
true, and there are several ways to do this. Obviously the first thing
to ensure is that your own setup is actually clean, then perhaps obtain
downloads where there is something like an MD5 checksum generated for
the file, that you can compare against after download.


If you are happy that the file is clean and you do have a false positive,
then you enter the file and it's location in your AV software exclude
list.


Andy


On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 11:57:31 +0000 (GMT)
paul ap dafydd <papdafydd@...> wrote:

> I have had the same problem running easy pal..My anti virus picks up two
trojens and they are always there. Even if you delete them after scanning easy
pal wont run at all. I have asked some of my friends who are big into dsstv and
they dont know what it is.. Ive downloaded easypal from a number of sites and
they all end up with trojens.. Your not alone old man.....
>
> Best wishes and good health,                 Paul  gw0jty
>
> --- On Fri, 5/2/10, Larry KA5T <ka5t@...> wrote:
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> From: Larry KA5T <ka5t@...>
> Subject: [digsstv] Easypal & Trojan loader detection & alternate program
> To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 5 February, 2010, 21:17
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> I am just learning Digital SSTV, and have learned how to receive pix,
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> and have received some, on 40 and 20 meters.  Have also learned how to
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> load up and send pix...
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>
> However, when I try to send, either with tune or transmit, my Kaspersky
>
> Antivirus program reports that Easypal is trying to execute a trojan
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> loader in some temp directory, and zaps it.  My Malwarebytes progrom
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> also thinks that Easypal.exe contains a trojan loader...
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> I have read some of the reflector and forum stuff about this problem,
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> whether it is real or not.
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> As far as I can tell, I have not been infected with the trojan, since
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> Kaspersky zaps what it thinks is the loader....
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> Be all that as it may, I just want to bypass the problem and get on with
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> learning to do more with digital SSTV.
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> While I am setting up another computer, not on the internet, to run
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> Easypal, I would like to run some other program to receive and send
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> digital SSTV, on my main machine.  Is there such a program?
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Gang:

I found a newer version of Easypal, dated 5 Feb 2010.  When I load it up
and execute it, my Kaspersky Antivirus program no longer detects a virus
loader trying to load a virus, and clobbers it.  It lets the program run.

However, my Malwarebytes program does still detect a trojan loader in
the installed Easypal.exe file.  It does not effect the operation of the
program apparently...

So.. no longer looking for an alternate program  to Easypal...

Larry
KA5T
Georgetown, Texas

Thanks, Paul...

Seems like lots of people are plagued by this problem...


Larry
KA5T

Good info Andy...

thanks,

Larry
KA5T

Yes, Easypal is a wonderful program,

and Yes, Easypal has been infected with a virus/spyware/whatever for a very long
time.

Every single time I receive a picture, for many many months, I get Spybot
warnings that it stopped a program in the application data temp directory.  It
gets deleted, but keeps coming back.  It rotates among several names.  I recall
niceview.exe and iview.exe

The Easypal directory scans as uninfected - it's these temporary files that come
and go that are the problem - and Easypal causes them to appear.


You can read more information here:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=234529

I followed KC2PCR's advise in the above thread and downloaded Easypal from
VK4AES.COM (instead of the usual KC1CS website) and then there is no
virus/spyware.

Howard

Hello to everyone in the group.

I just tried easypal 2008-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
Also Jan 5 2010 ver-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
And Feb. 12 2010 ver -(With this ver it just would not open. Also it did not
show up in the control panel under installed programs. However, the program was
in the program files.)

However none of them work I am running windows 7 64 bit. I have tried changing
the compatibility but nothing works.

Should I give up?


Thanks
KI4KSY

 

Hello to everyone in the group.

I just tried easypal 2008-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
Also Jan 5 2010 ver-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
And Feb. 12 2010 ver -(With this ver it just would not open. Also it did not show up in the control panel under installed programs. However, the program was in the program files.)

However none of them work I am running windows 7 64 bit. I have tried changing the compatibility but nothing works.

Should I give up?

Thanks
KI4KSY

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Jones

To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 23:19

Subject: Re: [digsstv] easypal no work on 64 bit windows 7 :(

 

Hi Tim,

No, just connect your interface cables to the sound card connectors and EasyPal should run.  Use stereo minature phone plugs and be sure that they are fully inserted.

73 Dave KB4YZ

ki4ksy wrote:

 

Hello to everyone in the group.

I just tried easypal 2008-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
Also Jan 5 2010 ver-(With this ver it said it was missing hamdrm.dll)
And Feb. 12 2010 ver -(With this ver it just would not open. Also it did not show up in the control panel under installed programs. However, the program was in the program files.)

However none of them work I am running windows 7 64 bit. I have tried changing the compatibility but nothing works.

Should I give up?

----- Original Message -----

From: AA0OI

To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:49

Subject: Re: [digsstv] easypal no work on 64 bit windows 7 :(

 

I'm running win 7  64 bit with no problems.. try what Dave said.. sounds like sound card not plugged in.. make sure EasyPal is going into the 32 bit programs file folder ( X86).. The no hamdrm.dll is its not finding the sound card or the cables are not plugged in..
 

Garrett / AA0OI

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.

Oh Darn,

On digisites, I just did a "Paste to EasyPal TX" and Spybot popped up a warning
about iview.exe

It is still infected.

I'm eliminating EasyPal - until such time that the authors and distributing web
sites investigate, explain, and eliminate the problem.

Howard

--- In digsstv@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, Easypal is a wonderful program,
>
> and Yes, Easypal has been infected with a virus/spyware/whatever for a very
long time.
>
> Every single time I receive a picture, for many many months, I get Spybot
warnings that it stopped a program in the application data temp directory.  It
gets deleted, but keeps coming back.  It rotates among several names.  I recall
niceview.exe and iview.exe
>
> The Easypal directory scans as uninfected - it's these temporary files that
come and go that are the problem - and Easypal causes them to appear.
>
>
> You can read more information here:
> http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=234529
>
> I followed KC2PCR's advise in the above thread and downloaded Easypal from
VK4AES.COM (instead of the usual KC1CS website) and then there is no
virus/spyware.
>
> Howard
>

Rob Taylor wrote:

  > Hopefully Eriks continued work with EasyPal will now see few "false
  > positives" that have upset so many users over the past few months.

Once again, it seems that the Malware tail is wagging the software dog.
   All because some people don't have a clue about what Malware detectors do.

I thought it was only 'ordinary' users of Windows that suffered from
these delusions that Malware detectors were 100% perfect...

Dave (G0DJA)

Garrett,

It LOOKS, FEELS, BARKS, and WAGGS IT TAIL like a virus.

Anyone who uses anti-malware s/w that constantly runs and monitors a system -
would know it looks like a virus.

To then use it, well - you'd have to be a raving loon!

If the s/w wasn't changed, then it would DIE, as more and more anti-virus and
anti-malware programs would flag it - as they should flag it.

The only s/w that acts this way is Easypal and the loads of viruses out there. 
I've never seen any other s/w act this way.

The Easypal author had a choice - have most of the ham world abandon his s/w -
or change it so it stops acting like a virus.

Nobody (except a few like you) would trust the author - oh yes - your software
acts just like a virus, but I trust you - I trust you won't use your software to
steal my online banking passwords, credit card accounts, etc, etc..  I know you
so well because we've been neighbors and best friends since childhood - you
babysat my kids - I trust you with my life.  I can trust your software that acts
like a virus - I believe you - it is not really a virus.

He made the right choice.

Howard


--- In digsstv@yahoogroups.com, AA0OI <aa0oi@...> wrote:
>
> Howard :
> This is not a Trojan, a trojan loader, or any other problem with EasyPal..
This is a probem with your antivirus..ITS NOT INFECTED.  I have tested it with
VIRUS TOTAL, which runs it in 25 different antivirus programs,, its clean,, CAN
your crappy antivirus and get a good one (avg, CA etc)also
> make sure you have the most current program 12Feb10 and get it from
.  www.VK3aes.com and not from kc1cs...  If you have a problem or need help
7.173 where there is help everyday 7am till  5 or 6 at night...  Thousands
of us are running with no problem...
>  
> Garrett / AA0OI
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Z <Howard_Z@...>
> To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:51:17 AM
> Subject: [digsstv] Re: Easypal & Trojan loader detection & alternate program -
GOOD NEWS!
>
>  
> Oh Darn,
>
> On digisites, I just did a "Paste to EasyPal TX" and Spybot popped up a
warning about iview.exe
>
> It is still infected.
>
> I'm eliminating EasyPal - until such time that the authors and distributing
web sites investigate, explain, and eliminate the problem.
>
> Howard
>
> --- In digsstv@yahoogroups .com, "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Easypal is a wonderful program,
> >
> > and Yes, Easypal has been infected with a virus/spyware/ whatever for a very
long time.
> >
> > Every single time I receive a picture, for many many months, I get Spybot
warnings that it stopped a program in the application data temp directory. It
gets deleted, but keeps coming back. It rotates among several names. I recall
niceview.exe and iview.exe
> >
> > The Easypal directory scans as uninfected - it's these temporary files that
come and go that are the problem - and Easypal causes them to appear.
> >
> >
> > You can read more information here:
> > http://forums. qrz.com/showthre ad.php?t= 234529
> >
> > I followed KC2PCR's advise in the above thread and downloaded Easypal from
VK4AES.COM (instead of the usual KC1CS website) and then there is no
virus/spyware.
> >
> > Howard
> >
>

Howard, there is another end to that stick as well. The Windows defaults
are VERY bad for your computer health.

Open a folder.
Select "Tools->Folder Options".
Select the View tab. Turn on each of the items down through "Do not cache
thumbnails". Under "Hidden files and folders" change the selection to
"Show hidden files and folders." Turn OFF "Hide extensions for known file
types". Turn OFF "Hide protected operating system files." Turn ON "Show
encrypted or compressed NTFS files in color." Then at the top of that
window press the "Apply to All Folders" button.

Seriously, hiding extensions on files, hiding files, and the like is a
VERY serious invitation to problems.

And anybody who messes with the files in a program's directory under
Program Files is asking for problems unless they know VERY well what
they are doing. Even a text file with a line ending changed from a
single line feed to a carriage-return and line feed pair can kill some
programs when they parse the files for data in a format they know they
wrote themselves. (It is good programming practice to recover from such
errors. But some programs are not as well written as others.)

Get used to seeing foddle.exe on files. That way when you see something
like puddle.jpg.exe you KNOW it was meant to fool you into running a
file that will do really bad things to your system. (If common extensions
are hiden that displays as "puddle.jpg" and you figure, "Oh, that's just
a jpeg file." The next words are often, "Oh <expletive deleted.>"

{^_^}   Joanne, W6MKU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@...>
Sent: Sunday, 2010/February/14 20:25


Garrett,

It LOOKS, FEELS, BARKS, and WAGGS IT TAIL like a virus.

Anyone who uses anti-malware s/w that constantly runs and monitors a
system - would know it looks like a virus.

To then use it, well - you'd have to be a raving loon!

If the s/w wasn't changed, then it would DIE, as more and more anti-virus
and anti-malware programs would flag it - as they should flag it.

The only s/w that acts this way is Easypal and the loads of viruses out
there.  I've never seen any other s/w act this way.

The Easypal author had a choice - have most of the ham world abandon his
s/w - or change it so it stops acting like a virus.

Nobody (except a few like you) would trust the author - oh yes - your
software acts just like a virus, but I trust you - I trust you won't use
your software to steal my online banking passwords, credit card accounts,
etc, etc..  I know you so well because we've been neighbors and best friends
since childhood - you babysat my kids - I trust you with my life.  I can
trust your software that acts like a virus - I believe you - it is not
really a virus.

He made the right choice.

Howard


--- In digsstv@yahoogroups.com, AA0OI <aa0oi@...> wrote:
>
> Howard :
> This is not a Trojan, a trojan loader, or any other problem with EasyPal..
> This is a probem with your antivirus..ITS NOT INFECTED. I have tested it
> with VIRUS TOTAL, which runs it in 25 different antivirus programs,, its
> clean,, CAN your crappy antivirus and get a good one (avg, CA etc)also
> make sure you have the most current program 12Feb10 and get it from . Â
> www.VK3aes.com and not from kc1cs... If you have a problem or need help
> 7.173 where there is help everyday 7am till  5 or 6 at night...Â
> Thousands of us are running with no problem...
> Â
> Garrett / AA0OI
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Howard Z <Howard_Z@...>
> To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:51:17 AM
> Subject: [digsstv] Re: Easypal & Trojan loader detection & alternate
> program - GOOD NEWS!
>
> Â
> Oh Darn,
>
> On digisites, I just did a "Paste to EasyPal TX" and Spybot popped up a
> warning about iview.exe
>
> It is still infected.
>
> I'm eliminating EasyPal - until such time that the authors and
> distributing web sites investigate, explain, and eliminate the problem.
>
> Howard
>
> --- In digsstv@yahoogroups .com, "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Easypal is a wonderful program,
> >
> > and Yes, Easypal has been infected with a virus/spyware/ whatever for a
> > very long time.
> >
> > Every single time I receive a picture, for many many months, I get
> > Spybot warnings that it stopped a program in the application data temp
> > directory. It gets deleted, but keeps coming back. It rotates among
> > several names. I recall niceview.exe and iview.exe
> >
> > The Easypal directory scans as uninfected - it's these temporary files
> > that come and go that are the problem - and Easypal causes them to
> > appear.
> >
> >
> > You can read more information here:
> > http://forums. qrz.com/showthre ad.php?t= 234529
> >
> > I followed KC2PCR's advise in the above thread and downloaded Easypal
> > from VK4AES.COM (instead of the usual KC1CS website) and then there is
> > no virus/spyware.
> >
> > Howard
> >
>




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Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi Howard.

It just happens this sort of behavior as been mentioned on many other sites
it is not just happening with Easypal
They tend to be false negatives.

I remember back in the mists of time some virus checking system where
flagging some windows system files as being trojans.

The only thing to do is contact company whose software is flagging the
problem and offer to send them a copy of the file that
is causing the problem.

Regards Peter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@...>
To: <digsstv@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:51 PM
Subject: [digsstv] Re: Easypal & Trojan loader detection & alternate
program - GOOD NEWS!


>
> Oh Darn,
>
> On digisites, I just did a "Paste to EasyPal TX" and Spybot popped up a
> warning about iview.exe
>
> It is still infected.
>
> I'm eliminating EasyPal - until such time that the authors and
> distributing web sites investigate, explain, and eliminate the problem.
>
> Howard
>
> --- In digsstv@yahoogroups.com, "Howard Z" <Howard_Z@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Easypal is a wonderful program,
>>
>> and Yes, Easypal has been infected with a virus/spyware/whatever for a
>> very long time.
>>
>> Every single time I receive a picture, for many many months, I get Spybot
>> warnings that it stopped a program in the application data temp
>> directory.  It gets deleted, but keeps coming back.  It rotates among
>> several names.  I recall niceview.exe and iview.exe
>>
>> The Easypal directory scans as uninfected - it's these temporary files
>> that come and go that are the problem - and Easypal causes them to
>> appear.
>>
>>
>> You can read more information here:
>> http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=234529
>>
>> I followed KC2PCR's advise in the above thread and downloaded Easypal
>> from VK4AES.COM (instead of the usual KC1CS website) and then there is no
>> virus/spyware.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "AA0OI
Subject: Re: [digsstv] Re: Easypal & Trojan loader detection & alternate
program - GOOD NEWS!



>Take EasyPal and do not unpack it and go to the internet and put it in
>virus total http://www.virustotal.com/ it will run a virus check

And Google "Anitvirus false positives"

73 Alan G4ZFQ

Thanks for all the repl

I have checked the sound card to the best of my ability. I have used multipsk,
HRD psk31, wxtoimag, and a few other soundcard modes but have yet to have a
problem with any of them. I reinstaled the op-sys but that did not change the
fact that the computer will not start the program. I will try some more
soundcard settings tonight and see if it will start that way. thanks

KI4KSY
Tim

I have a IC-7400 interfaced to my PC (WinXP) by a Signalink SL-1+ In order to
use this with MixW or MMSSTV I depress the SSB button on the rig to go to
digital mode.  If I try this with EASYPAL the signal appears to be corrupted and
non-receivable.  Yet I need this mode selected in order to TX.

Can anyone with a IC-7400 and Easypal please give me some advice on how to set
up for TX.  I can receieve images OK.

Many thanks

Glyn
GM4CFS

PS is easypal always transmitted in USB or is LSB used on 80/40m

The new version is working flawlessly on my Vista laptop with the exception of
the installed FTP program MOVEit Freely. However i can manually load the pic the
FTP thru it's command prompt. If i use an older EasyPal version it works fine,
with the exception that i can't load any pics without my anti-virus program
saying the .jpg images are viruses, but not on the new version. Can anyone help
with this please. I know of one other person that is having this problem also
but he is running Windows 7.

Thanks and 73,
KC9OUB Nate Harris

 

 

 

Hi Group

 

Well after paying around with the latest version of easypal I now have the auto FTP function working in this version.

 

It well may be documented and I have missed it but in windows vista and windows 7 the latest version of easypal will only FTP if easypal is installed

In C:\easypal.

If installed in C:\program files FTP  won’t work, I tried settings in the UAC but could not FTP work.

 

Sorry if this has already been covered but its caught me out.

 

73 Keith GU6EFB

 

 

 

 

 

From: digsstv@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digsstv@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KC9OUB
Sent: 21 February 2010 04:45
To: digsstv@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digsstv] EasyPal installed FTP issue on the new version!!!

 

 

The new version is working flawlessly on my Vista laptop with the exception of the installed FTP program MOVEit Freely. However i can manually load the pic the FTP thru it's command prompt. If i use an older EasyPal version it works fine, with the exception that i can't load any pics without my anti-virus program saying the .jpg images are viruses, but not on the new version. Can anyone help with this please. I know of one other person that is having this problem also but he is running Windows 7.

Thanks and 73,
KC9OUB Nate Harris