monday27may2002
@Rainbow Circle Ludlow

my feet is damp but my spirit's high
eating food and drinking chai
orc needs help putting up the tents
and something something something fence...

(oh shit oh curse i cant do verse)

we've agreed on a fence,
but whether temporary or permanent i dont know,
(sundays meeting was not winter working group
but co-ordinators so i wasnt there)

good farmer tom says he wants one,
but i dont know about posts and wire and tools,
im off to see my mum tomorrow,
back soon, its great in this field,
im in the kids bus typing by power
of the rainbow circle solar cells
-- oh actually it is the RC "School Bus"
and education is for everyone
and franqui should come for a photoshop lesson
and we can improve the website
and gretel might teach me to sew,
and loads of friends are coming over the next few days..

dear Susannah from Kentish Town Rainbow Church
and Stonehengers and more

oh yes trisha, i moved the death slide
to within a few yards of your caravan
its a lot safer there and being tested
so watchout for overhead kids when sunbathing
in between rain

and public transport theres a bus from birmingham to hereford
which passes very near (2 miles south of ludlow)
192/289 from birmingham StationSt, Colmore Row, FiveWays
and no dogs in the top field

has anyone the words from disneys jungle book isnt it
accenuate the positive
and dum de dum the negative...

andrew B popped in tonight..

and theres no paint or brushes in the kids bus

and has anyone sound recording equipment
with top quality microphone and minidisk

and oh look at that sunset
look at those clouds

  ~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
  ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
  www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
  ~~~~~~~~~  george@...   ~
  ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
  ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
  (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
  ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

hello,
my batteries run out and its not windy enough
so i cant get emails from my bus
so im here in ludlow cybercafe,..

parked up at the site where we had rainbow circle beltane camp-
it was great,
very very very..
here until family fun camp
in half term,
june 1st ish..

and lots have pictures have disappeared from my websites..

see you all soon,
i'll send more information when i get new battereis or its windyer!

phone me?

~~~~  http://www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm  ~~~~~
~~ Stonehenge Campaign + Tribal Voices + hotlinks + + + ~~
~~     http://www.dicenews.com ~  george@...~~~
~~ I gotta mobile phone ~~~~(UK orange)  ~~ 07970-378572 ~~
~~~~ phone after 7pm and I'll phone you back cheaprate ~~~~


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dicenews egroup newsletter
from me, george@...
Saturday 30 March 2002  @ karelia bus

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Tribal Voices Gig and Stonehenge Meet
were pretty good - thanks to (almost) all

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think diggers day on Monday is cancelled,
its too close to Millie's disappearance.
[Plans for a grand opening of the Diggers Trail
around St. George's Hill have been delayed for
a few months waiting for a convenient time for
Tony Benn to perform an opening ceremony.
The idea is to have a vintage bus tour
around the various sites marked by the
trail with refreshments to mark the trail's
inauguration sometime this spring or summer.]
www.thelandisours.co.uk ???
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stonehenge Campaign Meeting:
Weds 3 April 8pm 99 Torriano Av
plans for Solstice and afterwards

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

26 April -06 May Rainbow Circle Beltane camp,
near Ludlow 02077-947-093
I hope to get this bus there.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tribal Voices CD 5 is almost ready,
but I need better CD-writing software
for audio and data -Enhanced/CD-Extra?

http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices

Cassettes 3 and 4 have almost sold out,
I'm converting them to CDs,
50 minutes music each,
which leaves about 200MB for data,
including the words to the songs,
but theres loads of space left -
have you got any videos or pictures
or words or websites etcetera
which you could get to me on a CD
for possible inclusion on the CDs?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



  ~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
  ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
  www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
  ~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
  ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
  ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
  (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
  ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

sorry if you got repeated emails about tribal voices or stonehenge meeting
at glastonbury 23/24 march

i've been working away at them for months,
ive sent the email to everyone on my dicenews egroup,
plus the rainbow-circle and tribal-voices egroups
plus tthe stonehenge egroup,

so if you're in x of these groups you'll get the emails x times,
i cant see how to avoid this

but it annoys me when it happens to me!

I just download hotmail headers in Outlook Express
(Inbox settings = Headers only)
then delete unwanted emails without downloading them..
)

george -

see you in glasto next weekend

(this email was powered by the TLIO windmill
rescued off Wandsworth EcoVillage roundhouse)

namaste

~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
  ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
  www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
  ~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
  ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
  ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
  (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
  ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.dicenews.com egroup email from george ~ wed30jan2002

There's something on in Glastonbury Assembly rooms Thursday night.

And on Saturday 2/2/2002 is a Rainbow Benefit,
opening circle 6pm, helping earlier.
  www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/rainbows.htm
       I think it'll be packed so come early!
And please bring some words and/or art for the
   Rainbow Circle newsletter which is soon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rainbow-circle

Wed 6 Feb 8pm Stonehenge meeting at 99 Torriano
www.dicenews.com/stonehenge  hyperjumps to new site?

I've moved many of my webpages to phreak/stonehenge/backups:
i hope the javascript loads most images, and the slideshows
at www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/stonepix.htm work,
and most of the real-audio music samples at
www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/dgfluban.htm
should stream ok now - please email me if they dont.

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McDonalds want to build a branch in Stroud.
The planning decision is due on 12 February...
February 4th: Traffic Action on the proposed McDs site: 4 - 6
February 12th: Demonstration outside Ebley Mill Stroud 10.00 am
http://bristol.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=58&group=webcast
tony@... ~  www.bilderberg.org  ~ www.public-interest.co.uk

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Tuesday, 12 February 7pm Public meeting   Stop the War on Dissent:
Grand Committee Room House of Commons Westminster, SW1
The threat to civil liberties posed by the Terrorism Acts
          Hosted by Jeremy Corbyn MP
contact:  Estella 020 7586 5892  knklondon@...

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Tuesday, 12 February at 7pm
  RICHARD STALLMAN, software  "geek" , founder of the
  Free Software Foundation and of the GNU Project,
and principal author of some of the most important GNU software,
will briefly be in London in  February... to Queen Mary,
  University of London,  a public lecture on
  "Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks".
  Sue White: suew@... or 020 7882 5217.
  Skeel lecture theatre, QMUL Mile End Campus
  http://www.qmul.ac.uk/travel/mileend.shtml

[from: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ir-l]



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I've been planning Tribal Voices CDs with music and data
    ((where can I edit CDs? how to print labels?))
and another gig on 23rd March at Glastonbury,
www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tribalvoices.html
(and see below, help needed...)
and a Stonehenge Talking Circle on Sunday 24March.
   www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/glastone.htm


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and I'm going to the dentist tomorrow,
I cracked a front tooth with the bus starting handle
when it backfired last month - ow -
I'm my own worst enemy! (and to digress ...
if you got all my friends in one room
there'd probably be a huge fight! ~ [JOKE] ~ )

Now parked up just north of Priddy in Somerset,
beautiful country: Stones and tumuli.

This email is powered by The Land Is Ours windmill
which I rescued off Wandsworth Eco Village Roundhouse.

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From: "george  dicegeorge@..." [tribalvoices@...]
To: tribal-voices@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Glastonbury Assembly Rooms" [info@...]
Subject: [tribal-voices] YES TV@glast  (23 march)
Date: 29 January 2002 23:04

We've had two offers of PAs,
New Age Radio and Rainbow Pistols want to play
and Kerry and Fraser and Angel and Tu and others,
so the gig is on on the 23rd March,
at which I hope to release CD versions of tapes 1-4
and TV5 (from recordings at last year's gig)
and TV6 from various recordings,
but i may not have them quite ready -
and i need use of computers
and to get them checked and agreed by several Tribal Voices members,
more info will be on the tribal-voices egroup
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tribal-voices

george.

PS I will be advertising this on saturday
at the assembly rooms rainbow gig -
see you there!



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



----- Original Message -----
From: "george dicegeorge@..." [tribalvoices@...]
To: [tribal-voices@yahoogroups.com];
[stonehengepeace@yahoogroups.com];
[festivaleye@yahoogroups.com];
Cc: "Glastonbury Assembly Rooms" [info@...]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:59 PM
Subject: [tribal-voices] TV or not TV? (23 march)


] www.dicenews.com/tribalvoices
]
] Should i cancel the 23 march 2002
]  Tribal Voices / Stonehenge benefit gig at glastonbury?
]
] Last year's lost 50 quid, but ive just been listening to the tapes
] and it sounded great, theres enough for TV5 on them.
]
] I must decide whether to cancel it on 2/2/2002 before the
] Rainbow gig - the assembly rooms needs money.
] Or distribute flyers at that gig.
]
] New Age Radio arent coming this March,
] im investigating another PA with microphones.
] any ideas?
]
] Ozrics are playing glast town hall on friday 22 march.
]
] But Ruth who organised the profitable gig 2 years ago
] isnt living in glasto any more.
]
] A few people want to play at the gig,
] Jes from Brighton, Kerry..
] a few people definitely arent coming,
] a few are neutral.
]
] I dont want it to be a dicegeorge gig
] but a fantabulous tribal voices gig.
]
] that camp of the Gathering (tapes 3 and 4)
] was so fabulous you could say quit,
] elkie's dead
] but the musics so beautiful,
] im still converting from tapes to CDs and demoing CD5
] whether or not the march 2002 gig is on.
]
] so let me know if and how the gig could happen,
]
] the hall is still booked in my name
] until I cancel or dont this saturday .
]
] your cousin,
]
] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
] ~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
] ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
] www.phreak.co.uk/stonehenge/psb/george.htm
] ~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
] ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
] ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
] (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
] ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
]
] www.dicenews.com/tribalvoices
]
]
]
]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tribal-voices/
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tvoices.htm

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From: "chrissy" [tantara2000@...]
To: [tribal-voices@yahoogroups.com]
Subject: Re: [tribal-voices] YES TV@glast  (23 march)
Date: 30 January 2002 19:08

Hiya George,
I hope to be able to get there too and do a few songs;
maybe 15 mins?? Well done for keeping the energy up
and pursuing the cds.
  May you prosper and the music continue! -Chrissy


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dear friends,
Stonehenge Solstice sunrise is probably Saturday 22nd,
Friday 21st --22nd is the longest night.
Friday is the shortest day.
Saturday the southest sunrise.
I think.
But I did get it wrong in the
September Stonehenge Newsletter-
there is no Saturday 23rd Dec 2001 !
whoooooops.

I'm online with this Dell laptop. Windmill powered.
But only 16 colours/colors - drivers?

I want to write webpages
not debug windows.

And theres candlewax in the mousepad!

Wed19December-in my bus in Wiltshire, tomorrow is it's MOT.
50 - 50 if it passes.
Sometimes the windscreen wipers dont work,
sometimes the front left indicator doesnt work,
I've been gungumming various exhaust leaks
and sometimes it doesnt start.
This time last year plus one day the diff broke.

And in Afghanistan it sounds like
Bin Liner has escaped,
I dont think he's admitted responsibility
for September 11th
which I thought he should've
if he was.


And geocities have been hiding my webpages

====23:32 19/12/2001
(windows notepad / F5)

heres a letter I sent the Stonehenge Newsletter:




Dear Stonehengles,
   sorry about my mistoke in our September Newsletter: winter solstice
sunrise is probably  Saturday 22nd December, (not 23rd.)
But some argue for Friday 21st sunrise, or sunset - when, if you
stand in the Avenue looking over the Helestone at Stonehenge you'd
see the sun set dead centre over the Stones. Midwinter solstice
sunset is opposite Midsummer solstice sunrise, as can be seen from a
three dimensional model of the planets (if you believe in  Kepler's
epicycles)

The builders of Stonenge didn't have digital watches. I think they
stuck sticks in the circular bank in the direction of sunrises and
sunsets. Each morning the stick would be a bit further than the day
before, until one day the direction changed. The stick of the day
before was the furthest, whereat the sun's motion stopped, or stuck,
from the latin 'sol' for sun and 'stickere' to stick. (ish).

I've been cycling up and down the Fosse Way, a long straight track
that was here in Somerset long before the Romans came. There are
wooded hillforts at the heights along it.

The countryside is now the inverse of what it was when the earthworks
were built and the Fosse Way cut: then the low land was wild wooded,
the heights cleared. Perhaps they'd leave some trees for lookouts, or
build their own huge wooden structures, as at Woodhenge, (from
whereup Stonehenge could be seen, (and in which they'd be warm and
dry in Britain's dark wet winters)).

Some classify societies/cultures as somewhere on a line between Law-
>Chaos, Slavery->Freedom, Conservatism->Fashions, but I think of that
line as the base of a triangle at the top of which is Art. The
pyramids were safe tombs for dead kings, St Pauls is a huge dry space
where masses can sing to the glory of their Church, but Stonehenge is
a mystery, a great work of art.

george@...  07970-378-572

http://www.dicenews.com

{~;

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/ssitemap.htm

mo0st of the images on my webpages are working,
i've been editing them all in homesite
on borrowed computers
but they all neeed doing again-
geocities free webpages have been suspending
my webapges because theyre too popular,
2gig bandwidth, whatever that is,
but thats what the adverts are for arent they?

please tell me of any bugs,
if most of the images dont work in your web browser
then i want to know, so i can change the javascript..

george

im in a bath cybercafe,
back to somerset tomorrow
{~;

contents: Intro, datelist, Foot+Mouth Gloucester,
Rainbow Circkle, solstice not 23rdDec, Bin Liner,
Tribal Voices, CD writing help me please...
disclaimer@ www.geocities.com/dicegeorge/svbintro.htm?


==== DICENEWS DATELIST ================
sat27th october 2001 gloucester foot+mouth demo (see below)
Saturday27 + sunday28  Leominster - Rainbow Circle AGM - (PgDn)

Fri 2 November Theo+Shannon atGlastonbury Rugby Club (bypass)
Sat 3 November Tribal Trance @ GlastonburyAssembly Rooms - drums and
dance
Wed 7 Nov Stonehenge Campaign  Meeting, 8pm, 99 Torriano Av
Sat 22 Dec 2001 Stonehenge Winter Solstice sunrise?
      not sat 23nd decemebr?


=====DICENEWS F+M DEMO PASTED ====
  ----- Original Message -----
  FROM: Elm Farm Research
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 AM
  Subject: FW: Foot and Mouth March, 27th October, Gloucester

  The Foot and Mouth - Full Public Enquiry March.


  On Saturday 27th October there will be a march in Gloucester to
demand a
  full public enquiry in to the government s handling of Foot and
Mouth.
  Please meet at 12:30 pm. at The Park. Turn off at junction 11 to
  Gloucester, turn right on A417 Over Causeway, left ring road St
Oswalds Rd
  leads to Priory road, then Gouda Way into Black Dog Way into Brutom
all
  part of ring road. Just past the station there is a sign to the
superstore
  and Metzs Way turn off here and park in Asda or B&Q car park. There
is a
  pedestrian access via B&Q to The Park. Here there will be speakers
and
  music from Seize the Day.

  Gloucester is central and will provide an opportunity to meet others
from
  around the country; until now just a voice on the end of a telephone.

  At 2:30 p.m. we will march on the local government Building, Shire
Hall in
  the town centre (DEFRA s building is sadly too far away).

  Please bring banners drums, etc. to lend to a colourful yet hard
hitting
  and powerful day of non-violent direct action.

  We MUST all stick together and fight the appalling Welfare Cull which
  threatens to far outweigh the FMD crisis.

http://www.oneworld.org/tlio/


=====DICENEWS ============
Pok spacegoat wants a computer, 486 or pentium

=====DICENEWS RAINBOW SQUIGGLE=============

RAINBOW CIRCLE AGM SATURDAY + SUNDAY
  I'd pessimised that Magic Hat would fail last summer,
but every evening there was a wonderful meal,
so many individuals stepped forward who
maybe wouldnt have it had been more organised -
shall we dare do it again next summer?
  Better or worse or different.
And how to deal with the painful-resignations over
foot and mouth hypocrisy etcetera?
[george]

====================================

RCC 1:Name. Amendment1
proposed to Constitution of Rainbow Circle
by George

Rainbow Circle Constitution Amendment:
for Rainbow Circle Constitution  AGM October2001
1 Name:
In section 1 and throughout delete
"Rainbow Circle" and replace it by:
"Rainbow Squiggle spiral web galaxy
with magenta and grey and gray
and black and white and silver and pink
and neon and RGB and CMYK and transparent
and translucent and psychedelic
and unimaginable and undescribable
and infra red and ultraviolet
and brown (joke).
".

====

RCC 6c:Mediators:
(Amendment6c for Rainbow Circle Constitution  AGM October
by George)
2001:

RCC Amendment 6c "Mediators"

Add a new section 6c:
" 6c Mediators:

6ci: Perhaps when situations arise
'mutually agreed mediators'
could talk with all sides of the problems
and clarify beliefs and misunderstandings
perhaps bringing considered proposals
to a bigger group.

6cii: There is a list of volunteer mediators.

6ciii: Other times 'Mercuries' or 'Problem Solvers'
or professionals or trained counsellors
or healers might be appropriate,
or something else.

6civ: This is Self Policing.
".



====



    here's my third motion to the AGM


== Rainbow Circle will honour our responsibilities
== and pay the one hundred pounds for the
== shovelling after the Family Fun Camp 2001.
== Proposed: (dice) George
== Seconded: Tipi Jean


george.
(PS I talked to Jean on the phone yesterday,
to Charlie at the weekend,
and to Jacob by phone)

X






=====DICENEWS============00:50 26/10/2001
NOTEPAD [F5] 01:22 26/10/2001

how to write cds for tribal voices 5?



---end
=====DICENEWS========PASTE===
01:12 26/10/2001 email from mum


From: "multicultural umbrella of music"
umbrella@...
To:  dicegeorge@...>
Subject: Seize The Day concert performance in Glastonbury ~
Friday November 2nd
Date: 17 October 2001 23:23

Please mention this in your Whats On section.  Thanks.
still and video footage can be provided on request.

On Friday November 2nd Seize The Day are performing at Tor Rugby Club
in Glastonbury.

Seize The Day are an innovative front-line band whose live concerts
are
exciting, moving and truly inspirational.  The last few years have
seen
Seize The Day play their unique brand of modern folk music to
audiences at
British, American and European festivals;  including appearances at
Cambridge, Ely, Towersey, Bromyard, Warwick, Glastonbury and Womad.

"They are brilliant live and have huge energy and presence on stage."
Permaculture Magazine Editors, Maddy and Tim Harland

Next Friday's concert coincides with the release of their latest
album, "All
hands That Are Ready."

Seize The Day are renowned for their powerful lyrics and haunting
melodies
which support their successful Direct Action campaigns.  These
include the
naked rooftop protest against Genetically Modified Food and their
fight to
save Britain from excessive road building and quarrying.  Not to
mention a
recent dramatic visit to the Esso Headquarters in Surrey…

Seize The Day have toured North America, performing as the headline
band
at the "Rally for Rural America" in Washington DC, the Biodevastation
Conference in Boston, the May Day March in San Francisco and dozens of
venues up and down the east and west coasts of the U.S.A. and Canada.
During a previous tour of the United States a few months earlier, the
band
played to 5000 people at The Key Arena in Seattle on the eve of the
WTO
meeting.

Meanwhile, in the UK, the band was featured on the Radio 4 programme
"Singing in the Wilderness", hosted by Tom Robinson.  Lead singer
Shannon
was subsequently interviewed for BBC World Service's "Everywoman",
reaching
45 million listeners world-wide.  Shannon's appearance was also
selected for
the "Pick of the World" programme.

"Unreservedly Recommended"
Living Tradition

mum productions welcome everyone to this concert and are
delighted to announce that all tickets are only £5.00, while those
aged 16
and under are FREE.  The licensed bar opens at 8 pm and the music
will begin
at 9 pm.

venue...TOR RUGBY CLUB, GLASTONBURY.
NR  BECKS ELECTRICAL, ON A 39 RELIEF RD
LOWERSIDE PARK, LOWERSIDE LANE
For more info:  01749 860 689   or umbrella@...
and www.seizetheday.org


Thank you,

kind regards,

Louise Somerville Williams (mum)
multicultural umbrella of music

umbrella@...
Tel:  01749 860 689


==========01:12 26/10/2001
=====DICENEWS WINTER SOLSTICE WHEN OH WHEN?

In the September Stonehenge Campaign newsletter
I emailed that Stonehenge Winter solstice Sunrise
  is on saturday 23rd December 2001. It  isnt.
There is noSaturday23rd of Deceber 2001.
Solst7ce sunrse at sTonehengeis probably on
Sat 22 Dec
though some might say its on Friday 21st.
Friday 21st?
see see webpage
http://www.geocities.com/dicegeorge/scna112.htm

all right? no half left,
my fingers dont hit the right keys
and half the time i dont know
so if you think its all right
and that everythinggs perfect
you're in a worse state than me
(I know I make mistakes
typing by candlelight..
drinking sherry
smoking what?



===01:15 26/10/2001




Happy New Age! [george]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------

when is winter solstice 2001???

From: "Toby Evans"
To:
Subject: Re: [Guilfin] GuilFin's  #2.33 Something For the Weekend
Date: 25 October 2001 09:01

tch!

not a precise science, is it!

can't you look down a stone or something?

I've changed it to a 2 day event ...

are you going to Zion Train at Glastonbury?

Hawkwind/Greasy Truckers were *excellent* ...

ttfn

T



Quoting "george  george@..."
:

> winter solstice sun rise
> is probably sat 22nd not friday 21st
> as you say
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
> ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
> www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
> ~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
> ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
> ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
> (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
> ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
> > *December-01*
> > 21/12/2001: Winter Solstice ;
> > more/latest info at
> >
http://www.guilfin.net/database/showevent.php3?ev_id=evINET8
87
> >
> >
> >
>
>




Toby Evans
www.guilfin.net
07092 238392



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From: "Paul Aitken"
To:
Subject: Re: Is Winter Solstice Sunrise on 21st or 22nd December 2001?
Date: 18 July 2001 23:44

george dicegeorge@... wrote:
>
> dear paul,
>   what do you think of the following conundrum ive found...
>
> Is Astronomical solstice is 8.19pm on Friday 21st Decemeber?

No, it is 19.18 - 7.18 pm.

> Can someone check this in an almanac or computer please?
>
> Stonehenge Avenue was built pointing at Summer solstice sunrise,
> when the sun rises South East.

You have your ups and downs sideways here - North East.
>
> At Equinox it rises East.
>
> At Winter Solstice North East.

South East
>
> I define Winter Solstice Sunrise as the sunrise
> when the sun rises northest.
>
> Therefore, assuming astronomical solstice is at 8.18pm Friday,

It isn't but,

> then if sunrise is before 8.18 then Saturday is Solstice,
> if it rises after 8.18a.m. then Friday is Solstice sunrise.

if it were, this would be correct for the 'northest' rise.
This is the reasoning we have been using for 'solstice sunrise' dates.
It is a secular view. Religious groups and perhaps the builders could
have other criteria than 'northest' sunrise. For example many cultures
had ceremonies at the winter solstice to reflect or assist the death
of the old sun/king/god/year (enter priests, fear and negative waves).
They would be interested in the 'southest' sunSET. Then there
might/not
be an inter-regnum non-day (or 2 in a leap year) to make 364 from
365+1/4.
Then they might celebrate the birth of the new sun/king/god/year at
the sunrise, which would no longer be the 'southest'.

> At what latitude is sunrise 12 hours away from astronomical
solstice?

Sunrise is 8.16 at the Stones, ie 11 hrs after sunrise and 13 hrs
before the next (22nd). Sunrise time does vary with latitude. but more
so with longitude.

> North of this latitude solstice sunrise will be Friday,
> south of that latitude solstice sunrise will be saturday.

Hence if solstice were halfway between 2 sunrises, 'northest' is
Friday
east of stones, Saturday west of.

There is no real conundrum, it is due to having a spinning planet with
an arbitary Greenwich meridian and international date line. Any event,
astronomical or otherwise,is perceived as happening at different times
in different places. So Lennon was shot on the 8th Dec in US, but on
9th Dec here.

> Please comment, supply data and reasoning,

(marks will be deducted for incorrect spelling and grammar)

> this is a draft of a future article for stonehenge newsletter
> and the web - but i'd like to get the facts right,
> and the arguments sussed!
>
> george.
>
> PS if its cloudy the solstice is the other day.

Unless there is a procession order on the other day.

P.A.


========================================01:18 26/10/2001

From: "Paul Aitken"
To: "DG6"
Subject: epeace post
Date: 25 September 2001 02:02

Agreed that night of 21/22 is 3 seconds longer than 20/21, but it is a
myth that the longest day and night coincide with the solstices, other
than roughly. Parallax and other considerations mean that sunsets
getting later and sunrises getting earlier 9and vice-versa) do not
exactly track each other on the same time curve. As you often say,
they
didn't have digital watches, so that was not the builder's concern.
'Northest' sunrise is 129.382356 deg azimuth on 21st, 129.381810 on
22nd. [clockwise from south]
P.A.


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----------

From: "Paul Aitken"
To: "DG6"
Subject: epeace post
Date: 23 September 2001 22:02

We discussed the winter solstice date earlier, but looking at my reply
there was garble gorble in a crucial paragraph. 'Northest' sunrise is
Friday. All requoted with correction below:

>   what do you think of the following conundrum ive found...
>
> Is Astronomical solstice is 8.19pm on Friday 21st Decemeber?

No, it is 19.18 - 7.18 pm.

> Can someone check this in an almanac or computer please?
>
> Stonehenge Avenue was built pointing at Summer solstice sunrise,
> when the sun rises South East.

You have your ups and downs sideways here - North East.
>
> At Equinox it rises East.
>
> At Winter Solstice North East.

South East
>
> I define Winter Solstice Sunrise as the sunrise
> when the sun rises northest.
>
> Therefore, assuming astronomical solstice is at 8.18pm Friday,

It isn't but,

> then if sunrise is before 8.18 then Saturday is Solstice,
> if it rises after 8.18a.m. then Friday is Solstice sunrise.

if it were, this would be correct for the 'northest' rise.
This is the reasoning we have been using for 'solstice sunrise' dates.
It is a secular view. Religious groups and perhaps the builders could
have other criteria than 'northest' sunrise. For example many cultures
had ceremonies at the winter solstice to reflect or assist the death
of the old sun/king/god/year (enter priests, fear and negative waves).
They would be interested in the 'southest' sunSET. Then there
might/not
be an inter-regnum non-day (or 2 in a leap year) to make 364 from
365+1/4.
Then they might celebrate the birth of the new sun/king/god/year at
the sunrise, which would no longer be the 'southest'.

> At what latitude is sunrise 12 hours away from astronomical
solstice?

[CORRECTED PARAGRAPH :]  * * * * * * *

Sunrise is 8.16 at the Stones, ie 11 hrs before solstice on 21st,
which
is 13 hrs before the next sunrise (22nd). Sunrise time does vary with
latitude. but more so with longitude.

> North of this latitude solstice sunrise will be Friday,
> south of that latitude solstice sunrise will be saturday.

Hence if solstice were halfway between 2 sunrises, 'northest' is
Friday
east of stones, Saturday west of.

There is no real conundrum, it is due to having a spinning planet with
an arbitary Greenwich meridian and international date line. Any event,
astronomical or otherwise,is perceived as happening at different times
in different places. So Lennon was shot on the 8th Dec in US, but on
9th Dec here.

> Please comment, supply data and reasoning,

(marks will be deducted for incorrect spelling and grammar)

> this is a draft of a future article for stonehenge newsletter
> and the web - but i'd like to get the facts right,
> and the arguments sussed!
>
> george.
>
> PS if its cloudy the solstice is the other day.

Unless there is a procession order on the other day.




===========================
=====DICENEWS   BINLINER ====

==========00:50 26/10/2001

===00:51 26/10/2001  by george

The news is panicking about anthrax  powder in the post.
But I guesstimate we're a hundred times more likely
to  die from cars tomorow than in some suprise attack
by BinLiner or an Israeii blitzkrieg or suicide bomb.

I know who my worst enemy is - it's me.
I sometimes wish I'd done it different
   in 1983 or January or yesterday.

What if?

  I'm not a cork in the ocean of life,
I'm a surfer, choosing waves to ride
      - its big out there!

So, if I put this on my webpage
     and someBody's reading it
what can I write that'd make it worth their while,
any pearls of wisdom to share, george?




not so much any of my slogans (99%fluffy etc)
but an attitude,everythung aint perfext,
things break, people fail,
but we get along -
muddleing


other email lists:
rainbowcircle  (rainbowy chat)
stonehengepeace (stonehengey chat)
guilfin weekly listing of actions,gigs, raves +festivals
schnews weeekly ecorant, info, dates etc
diggers egroup land stuff @tlio
   (see www.dicenews.com for links)

thu4oct2001 - a quick note from London cybercafe:
   (£3 for 24 hours, easy tottenham court rd)

There's a great gig on Saturday 7th at Glastonbury
    Assembly Rooms - Altered Native - I want to go
    but my Finnish aunt's visiting...

Stonehenge Solstice sunrise is Sat22nd, or perhaps friday 21st
december,
   there is no sat 23rd as in my letter to the SC newsletter - whoops

My bus springs are in a London Blacksmith, retempering
   I need a lift next week when they're ready
    back to Somerset with them - please

Geocities have been suspending my webpages cos they're too popular,
    so I've just hacked most of the images out, cut bandwidth...

My new second hand laptop has lines on the screen
   and some keys dont work - today in london I bought
   a Sharp ZQ770PC for £80 to input text, then transfer..

Tribal Voices tape five soon, lets do it
in time for a March gig at Glastonbury. or CD5.

http://www.refdesk.com is full of info

this egroup is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
   which is less than one a week from me,

I subscribe to other egroups,
    occassionally something amazing arrives...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rainbow-circle
    is a rainbowy discussion list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tribal-voices
    is an ecomusic discussion list

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/diggers350
   from The Land Is Ours - land rights

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/festivaleye
     festival info and chat

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stonehengepeace
    stonehengey discussions

george

Tues25th Septemeber 2001:
I've updated my homepage
www.geocities.com/soho/9000/dicegeor.htm
with my new parkup here south of Stoke St Michael,
(on this three thousand year old track )
and a link to a picture of me and a Stonehengeasaurus,
and a hyperlinked version of my 'American War' email
and reaction to it...

And I've updated the obituary  webpages about Brian and Sunny
www.geocities.com/soho/9000/brian.htm
www.geocities.com/soho/9000/sunny.htm

Since 11th September I've been listening to the radio
and not doing much else.

  I'm so glad that my pessimism was proved wrong,
the American government have slowed down and thought.
I'm sure there are more terrors ahead, but it could have been worse.

I got a lift to Stonehenge Equinox,
chatted round a fire nearby for a few hours,
then in we went, about a hundred.
The druids were a bit churchy,
I left theri cicle and bimbled around,
then tinwhistled with some drummers.
It was good for me.

This new laptop's working OK,
a shame it hasn't got sound though,
The Tribal voices website needs attention,
and I've promised to work on a multimedia CD.
(A bad workman blames his tools).

I do need help on many of these projects,
I mean we need help,
one thing I learned at Rainbow Circle
is that one person can't do everything.


george


For my email please now use george@...
and not dicegeorge@....

================
Cannabis March and Rally!
SATURDAY 29th SEPTEMBER 2001

Meet @ 12 noon: Speakers Corner, Hyde Park, London. (Marble Arch Tube).
Departs 2.00pm via Park Lane & Piccadilly to Cannabis Rally at
Trafalgar Square for rally with speakers. Bring humour, banners and drums.
  A peaceful remonstration & celebration. Everyone counts. Everyone invited.

Speakers 100% confirmed (as of 1st September): Paul Flynn MP (labour),
Howard Marks (ex cannabis smuggler), Caroline Coon (artist/founder Release),
Mike Goodman (Director, Release), Shane Collins (Green Party), Alun Buffry
(Legalise Cannabis Alliance)

  and many more still to be confirmed.
Email: info@...
Website: http://www.cannabiscoalition.org



======================

Wed 3rd October 8pm
Stonehenge Campaign Meeting at
99 Torriano Av, London
www.dicenews.com/stonehenge

=====================

Saturday 6 October Glastonbury's Assembly Rooms
8:00pm Altered Native Magic Hat
Cameron Scott returns for a night of Bardtone word play and
organic semi acoustic funk to celebrate the band's 2nd anniversary

I love Cameron' s guitaring.

====================

Stonehenge solstice sunrise is probably on saturday 22nd december 2001,
not on 23rd like i wrote in the SC newsletter,
but it might be on friday 21st.... im confused....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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~~~ American War  ~~  Tuesday 18th September 2001 ~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've got no telly but last Tuesday mMatt phoned me
and told me about the trouble in New York,
I went and told them next door and we watched on telly
as the first pictures came on of the fire, the second
plane, the Pentagon, the fourth plane - we guessed it'd
been shot down by american 'friendly fire' or the hostages
had fought back.

It could've been worse - they could've targeted a nuclear
power station and killed and cancered tens of thousands of
innocents.

It isn't perhaps so very different than American cruise
missiles killing civilians while they aimed for Serbian TV
propaganda building or a city centre Iraqi military
command centre, or the millions of human tragedies and
betrayals since World War Two in Yalta,  Palestine,
Kurdistan, East Timor, Rwanda etcetera. (I spell etcetera
out long because its a very big etcetera).

The victims at the Belgrano and the retreat from Kuwait
were mostly conscripts, whereas the millionaire
capitalists in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon
warriors had chosen that lifestyle rather than eco-Protest.

Firemen, janitors and kids were killed in New York,
its not black and white, Tash or Aslan?

I'm against war, I'm 99% per cent fluffy,
not an eye for an eye or total non-violence
  but reserving the right (and duty) to, for example,
assassinate a Hitler. I could've, but I ain't, yet.


Tuesday could've been worse: Arafat's immediate response
was sadness at more killing, empathy for the bereaved:
good man.

And the Yanks have at least paused for a week to think and
find out what's what and who's who, if not why.

It reminds me of times when I've been attacked. The first
consideration is to stop the violence, the second that it
won't flare up again, the third is why?, and how to make
it so it doesn't happen again. I know I've sometimes
failed - but the only absolute defence against ever being
hit again is either to kill everybody, or myself. Neither
would stop all violence. And there's life to be lived,
friends, family, responsibilities, positivisms, art,
music...

The American constitution of Freedom derives from Tom Paine.
Me, I'm closer to Tom Paine than Presidents Bush:
Paine's freedom of ownership of property was of a farmer
living with and improving the land, feeding humanity;
not global capitalism bullying and fixing the system
so the Third World starves whilst this American generation
consumes our planet.

In 1986 in Green CND and the Young Liberals I declared the
Third World War: rich against poor, north against south.

If I'd been at the top of those towers would I have
jumped? My impact could kill a survivor on the ground.
But burning is a terrible death, I remember Roger's
screams that night in London - funny but almost the last
job I was offered was after Wandsworth Eco Village's
cardboard fire (by a fireman!)

I'm for freedom, I'm very liberal, even freedom to do
things I don't like, like talking nonsense and lies and
freedom of speech - so long as it doesn't hurt others too
much. Freedom for women to walk around naked without being
insulted (as once at Rainbow Circle) or executed (as in
Iran). Freedom to dance, freedom to be wrong or silly or
foolish, freedom to drugs, freedom to believe in astrology
or crop circles or God or Allah or Hecate or Irene
or Freud or Marx or Santa or Greenspan.

Freedom to justice - not to be trashed by the  police as
almost happened to me. Freedom to trial by jury. But not
freedom to murder - murderers should be locked up until
they're sorry, or something like that: they destroy the
freedom of others to walk down the road; freedom to be
mild.

I probably disagree with some of the above, I've just
typed it fast. I'm sure you'll disagree with something
I've writ - if only because the words will mean something
slightly different to you, depending on where you've heard
them before, on how you use them.

For instance my use of the word 'nonsense' is special,
I'm secretly referring to paedophiles and rumours and
witch hunts and perfidys; but for legal and moral reasons
I shouldn't discuss certain people on the internet.
However let me say for the thousandth time that I'm
against child abuse. I agree with and honour the United
Declarations declaration of the Rights of the Child, I've
got a copy filed somewhere; but truer than that
committee's legalisms is a poem which I hold to my heart
on Children by Kahil Gibran which was read out at our
Kierra's funeral. She was killed in a car crash,
with so many others. But I support the freedom to drive
and to drink alcohol - but not at the same time.

Osama bin Laden has, the radio says, denied having any
part in the attacks of September 11th. I would have
thought that if, as seems likely, he was a part of the
plot, then that as part of his 'holy war' against America
he should have admitted responsibility. That would seem
more honourable to me.

I remember in a pub once with Arthur, (the self-proclaimed
King Arthur of Stonehenge media tart). I argued against
his swearing his oaths on Truth Honour and Justice.
They're all three male rational philosophies.  And whilst
I'm generally for them, higher, and above the three, is
love.

www.dicegeorge.com  (c) 2001

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi, I'm in London cybercaffing,
(my laptop's broken).
I've updated my dicegeorge homepage.

Some emails to me    dicegeorge@...
    have been getting lost, so please use
george@...    instead.

back to Somerset later today.
Then Tribal Voices 5?
Sun Sept 23rd Stonehenge equinox sunrise?
Sat Sept 29 London Cannabis demo?

Im looking for new work/projects
  for fun love or money.

[george]

====================
Date :    Thu, 6 Sep 2001


Rainbow Circle Summer Camp 2001 report by George: 9/10.

Nine out of ten. (Thursday 6th September 2001)
I left our Flaxley site this Monday.
99.9% of the stuff was in the trailer,
the field was tidy, but I didnt check the woods.

What a great August that was -
it took me back to Wandsworth Eco Village.

But my laptop's broke so I couldnt provide
internet access, sorry.

Last year I arrived at the August camp in week two -
(late due to mechanics and Angel's broken leg
and little Elkie's funeral) - and the
Kids Marquee didnt get put up til week three.

This year there were lots of Kids Marquees.
But there was no Music Marquee or Empty Marquee!

This year at a morning circle I saw some kids
playing with my trolley near the earth mounds
but stayed to say my bit about "No Kids in the
Kitchen or Gate Area" but didnt guess they'd
take it to the steepest drive and crash it
smashing half of Adam's tooth. His mum was
so good and understanding about it but they
had to go home soon because it hurt.

How many told me they'd seen but not acted?

Once at the sandpit I shouted "DONT THROW SAND"
and a little kid got scared and got out and
the kid's teenagers said I was wrong but
after a while they came back and played happily -
my intuition was right - kids liked to feel safe
- "It really hurts, sand in your eyes"
or "What - you want to throw sand
     but  nobody else can?"
The kids knew the justice of "DONT THROW SAND",
new kids soon learnt ( I wish I had a photo
of the huge sand castle we built one day)
humans are naturally friendly animals,
its grown up longword philosophies like
"justice" and Irene's 'incessant rationality'
that complicates and confuses us grownups.

Unfortunately Maggi Nichols, who invited me
to August 2000's music, couldnt come.
I enjoyed playing music (whistle, flute,
trombone and lights) with Enid,
Ian, Felix, Chrissy, Sess, Olly, Horse,
the drummers and everybody -
  I cant remember half of it -
I cant remember 99% of it -
wow it was good wasnt it!

love from    [] george
www.dicenews.com
07970-378-572

===================

hi,
im in a gloucester cybercafe,
ive got my bus at the rainbow circle camp
upto 27th august -
come along,
10 miles south of gloucester
kids and guitars and drums and campfires
and lots to do and play
(but dont bring noisy amlifiers)

my laptop got smashed one drunken saturday
so i havent been getting emails etcetera.


theres a severn bore at new moon,
aND I want to get my lightshow out.

get here - its great,
chance of a lifetime!

george.
www.dicenews.com

i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice
>See you later. Thanks

but norton antivirus says they have a virus
W32.sircam.worm@mm

IF YOU GET THEM DELETE THEM

i got the from
Mark Filkins
Kevin O Malley and
Rita&Dane Hersey
but i dont know who they are, or how they got my email-
beware,

the email subjects were
SEPT96 and
FOS97 and
Color and
cover letter
i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice
>See you later. Thanks

but norton antivirus says they have a virus
W32.sircam.worm@mm

IF YOU GET THEM DELETE THEM

i got the from
Mark Filkins
Kevin O Malley and
Rita&Dane Hersey
but i dont know who they are, or how they got my email-
beware,

the email subjects were
SEPT96 and
FOS97 and
Color and
cover letter


i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice
>See you later. Thanks

but norton antivirus says they have a virus
W32.sircam.worm@mm

IF YOU GET THEM DELETE THEM

i got the from
Mark Filkins
Kevin O Malley and
Rita&Dane Hersey
but i dont know who they are, or how they got my email-
beware,

the email subjects were
SEPT96 and
FOS97 and
Color and
cover letter


i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice
>See you later. Thanks

but norton antivirus says they have a virus
W32.sircam.worm@mm

IF YOU GET THEM DELETE THEM

i got the from
Mark Filkins
Kevin O Malley and
Rita&Dane Hersey
but i dont know who they are, or how they got my email-
beware,

the email subjects were
SEPT96 and
FOS97 and
Color and
cover letter


i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice

`i got 3 emails with b ig 200k+ attachments, they begin:

>Hi! How are you?
>I send you this file in order to have your advice

>See you later. Thanks

but norton antivirus says they have a virus
W32.sircam.worm@mm

IF YOU GET THEM DELETE THEM

i got the from
Mark Filkins
Kevin O Malley and
Rita&Dane Hersey
but i dont know who they are, or how they got my email-
beware,

the email subjects were
SEPT96 and
FOS97 and
Color and
cover letter



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~








~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~









~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: "george dicegeorge@..." <dicegeorge@...>
To: <stonehengepeace@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:19 PM
Subject: stonehenge- monday night


> theres a few stonehenge walkers camping
> a few miles from stonehenge jes 07748954954
>
> and a few more at avebury
>
> a few dozen cycling with rinky dink
> 07977 022 124 from bath
>
> and a stewarding meeting somewhere tuesday
> www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk/steward.htm
>
> and i'm here in the cotswolds trying to borrow a car..
>
> see you all wednesday night, if not before,
>
> and friday night Here and Now at Glastonbury
>
> and saturday sunny's funeral.
>
> see my homepage and stonecam.htm
> www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicegeor.htm etc for more details
>
> ========
> and festival eye lost my email,
> so didnt print my writings this year, drat
>
>
> ======
> <b>==== Letter From Karelia - 4 March 2001 ===</b>
> <P>
> 'Part Time Grown-ups' means being childlike and playful but, when troubles
> arise, taking responsible actions, speaking out.
> <P>
> An 'inner adult' watching from a corner of the brain lest 'childlike'
> becomes 'childish'.
> At Big Green 2000 I was furiously pedaling a trike with my lightshow for
Nik
> Turner band @ Rinky Dink Sunday night when pushchair - swerve and stop -
> <P>
> 'YOU SILLY HIPPY'
> <P>
> I did shout out once or twice last summer - and you should too if you
notice
> something too dangerous- nobody's perfect (though some think they are!)
> <P>
> And I've an inner monster - when I'm angry at someone is it at them or at
a
> projection of my fears (laying my trips on them?)
> <P>
> Its when we deny and suppress our inner dog  that it can wreak terrible
> damage on us through the subconscious.
> Remember 'Silver Chair' by CS Lewis
> <P>
> Festivals are, since time immemorial, a vital time of changing clothes, a
> safety valve from conformist wage slavery, changing times of drinks and
> drugs; and the insights we get in our altered states of mind
> should make us more aware, more empathic, less robotic than the
Thatcheroid
> straights.
> <P>
>    www.dicegeorge.com  07970-378572
>
> <hr>
>
>
> <b> === Stonehenge Summer Solstice === </b>
> <P>
> June 2000 was 99% great - we celebrated Solstice at Stonehenge and then
> Bowie sang Starman at Glastonbury.
> <P>
> This June, 200, if ten thousand people come and go in peace but a hundred
> try a three-day sit-in and get evicted by riot police then that's what
> they'd show on telly and English Heriticage would say that they'd trusted
us
> but we'd betrayed them and ban us for another fifteen years giving tickets
> only to tame druids.
> <P>
> I hope not.
> <P>
> [george]  www.dicenews.com/stonehenge
> <hr>
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
> ~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
> www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
> ~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
> ~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
> ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
> (if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
> ~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>

Convoy Sunny (15) died on Tuesday 5th June 2001
on a site in Brighton
in another stupid car accident
(allegedly).

His mum is Diane, his brother is Roger Moon

I remember him as an intelligent cheeky friend.

Please don't go there until the funeral
as the site is full.

I'll update the Stonehenge Campaign homepage
with news as I get it..

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



----- Original Message -----
From: "david altheer" <davidaltheer@...>
To: <TRAVELLER-NET@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: 'Complaint' about webpage quoting emails


> The messages Mick sends out about what one might term Gypsyness are
occasionally a little contradictory. I have heard him publicly make comments
such as Jake reports, but I also remember, when I wanted to interview him
for an academic project I was doing, that he told me firmly he was <not>
suitable because neither he nor his wife was Romany. (He was happy to speak
as travelling man.) He clearly puts some importance on the matter of
ethnicity. -- DA
>
>
> Get an email address that earns you cash back when you shop.
> http://www.carrotmail.com.
>

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subject: truth, lies, poetry and ununderstandabubbles
date:    wed23may2001
from:    dicegeorge@...  dicenews@egroups.com
phone:   george  07970-378572  (orange)
to:      all friends

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====== Contents ============ www.dicenews.com email =====
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Contents: [intro]
           [Stonehenge Solstice Trap?]
           [films 5th+ 9th June ]
           [mayday poem - east or west timor?]
           [Tribal Voices tapes 1,2,3,4 .. and CD five?]
           [george's writes]
           [datelist]
           [weblinks]
           [www.dicenews.com subscribe/unsubscribe]

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Hi, I'm in in my bus in Somerset.

Soon I'm printing Stonehenge Campaign Newsletter -
   please email contributions, poems (see below)

I did a lightshow at the Rainbow Circle Beltane Cabaret,
using a few 12volt bulbs, hurray, I hope to do more...

From 26 May to 3rd June is the Rainbow Circle Family Fun camp
at Shepton (no dogs, no unknown unaccompanied men please)
I'll be cycling there again


MONDAY MAY 28   KINGSTON GREEN FAIR CANCELLED


2-3pm Fri 1st June 2001 Stonehenge Walkers' picnic ,
Battersea Park Peace Pagoda. 3pm Walkers leave...


VIDEO SCREENING EVENT
"The big stoned gathering"
Tuesday 5th June 2001 Bath
Saturday 9th June 2001 Bristol
(see below for details)


Sat 16 June 2001: 12 noon - Carnival March to End the Prohibition of
Cannabis:
  Assemble in Kennington Park - Oval Tube. London. Departs 1.00 pm
Free The Weed! http://www.cannabiscoalition.org


  Sunday 17th June: Rinky Dink cyclists leave Bath for Stonehenge?
... everyone on foot, horse or cycle welcome..


In Britain I'd vote tactically,
for a hung parliament again,
Lib 30% Lab 30% Tories 10% Others 30%



see my homepage for latest news...
www.geocities.com/soho/9000/george.htm

george.  [ dicegeorge@... ]

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Wed 20 June 2000 Stonehenge probably free and open to all from 8pm!
Draft Terms and Conditions: (5May) ~
Entry to stones 8PM Wed 20th to 9AM Thurs 21st
~ Entry to car park 7PM Wed 20th to 2PM Thurs 21st
~ No climbing on the stones
~ No fires fireworks or naked flames
~ No amplified music
~ No dogs or other animals
~ No camping or equipment
~ No bottles or other glass
~
from English Heriticage:

checkout http://www.dicenews.com/stonehenge
for latest stonehenge news

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Press Release

VIDEO SCREENING EVENT
Tuesday 5th June 2001 Bath
Saturday 9th June 2001 Bristol

"The big stoned gathering"

i-Contact video network ( www.videonetwork.org ) are holding a Summer
Solstice themed evening of radical grassroots activist films on
Tuesday 5th
June 2001, 7.30 pm, at The Hat & Feather, Walcot St, Bath & Saturday
9th
June 8pm at the Cube Microplex, Kings square, Bristol. Admission rate
£3
suggested, although no one will be turned away due to lack of funds
(please
print this). Featuring guest speaker DiceGeorge from the Stonehenge
Campaign
[http://www.dicenews.com/.

· Spirit of the Albion (Richard Philpott 58mins) - Produced in
association
with Britain's 'new age gypsies', Albion is politically, emotionally,
and
spiritually a very moving film, providing a unique insight into the
new
nomads such as the 'peace convoy' and 'Rainbow village' who continue
to be
the object of authoritarian hatred and brutality as they struggle to
re-establish the ancient right to gather for solstice celebrations at
Stonehenge; and search for a end to human exploitation and global
destruction in the forthcoming New Age of our planet.

· Operation Solstice (Solstice films 41mins) - recounts the story of
how 420
people were arrested on 1 June 1985 on their way to Stonehenge to
hold the
11th People's Free Festival. Using video footage, the police radio
log,
photographs and personal testimony to recreate what became known as
the
BATTLE OF THE BEANFIELD, this documentary presents horrifying
evidence of
the semi-military tactics employed by police as they smashed up
travellers'
homes. This portrait provides a good background to what was, at the
time,
the longest running civil case in British legal history when 24
people sued
the police for damages.'

· Short films from Stonehenge 1999 + 2000, + a rare chance to see
footage
from 1995's VE day when the stones were reclaimed by the people.

· i-Contact news round up - includes i-Contact at Mayday + world
premiere of
"Billbored" - the film Channel 4 unsuccessfully tried to censor.

On a bi-monthly basis i-Contact video network will be screening a
series of
short films about the blossoming grass roots activist scene. Many
people
come to us with films for exhibition or distribution, which are widely
ignored by the mainstream media. We have found from experience that
this
works the best in an informal setting, where people can come and
socialise,
and to discuss what they have just seen, alongside the best in DJ'ed
soundz,
audio cut-ups, visuals and guest campaign speakers.

Established in 1997, Bristol based i-Contact is a non-profit making
group
producing and supporting video work that tackles the issues the
mainstream
media ignore. Through i-Contact those wishing to use video come
together
with those who will benefit from it. We are about respecting and
reflecting
the genuine concerns of communities and suggesting ways forward. i-
Contact
wants to make it as easy as possible for anybody to make programmes.
We
advocate genuine public access to TV and individual empowerment
through a
collaborative process. i-Contact brings a fresh approach to media,
communicating with, rather than at, people. By involving those who
know
about and are affected by the issues in the production process,
people are
brought together, skills are transferred and the media is
demystified. We
want anyone to feel able to use video to express his or her concerns
and
visions. Our aim is to exhibit the most current, and up to date films
that
we feel are relevant and newsworthy at the time. Our programming
schedule
is constantly evolving.

For further information contact Ian Ferguson, 07779-263738 or
fergusonian@...





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=== mayday =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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Tuesday May 1st I started at Ladbroke Grove, off the Monopoly board,
got a bus to Victoria, and sent this email poem from the cybercafe:

Subject:  is this mayday karma payday?
Date:  Tue, 01 May 2001 11:21:57 +0100

is this mayday karma payday?
the more you give the more you get?
mirror mirror don't forget
we don't hurt kids - we're civilised
(in East Timor it's Genocide).


(But should it be West Timor, havent the killers moved on?)

Then over Westminster Bridge at noon to the Elephant and Castle
(at the top of Old Kent Road). The wondrous
Rinky Dink bicycle powered sound system was there,
  and many friends.
A speaker said he isn't 'anti-capitalist' but 'pro-community'.
  It was cold and raining.
  We took a chance, about 300 of us, set off north - Advance to Pall
Mall?
There were loads of Police - Just Visiting? I ran to the front - it
was a race to the Thames.
  I walked to the back - no lost kids -
and followed to where the police were blocking us at a bridge.
  About 100 people there - but no Rinky Dink! I phoned - they were at
Waterloo,
  surrounded, trapped.
  Some dispersed and caught buses and tubes north.
  When we found the Dink we were down to about a dozen.
  We moved to the riverside.
  The Police said they'd arrest us if we went north over a bridge.
  Rotherhithe Tunnel? We had a Seventies disco,
  then the Dinks went back to Old Kent Road.
  Our secret plan was dancing at Speakers corner,
but the Police plan was 'Disrupt and Disperse' south of the river,
and 'Contain and Confront' north of the river.





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For updates see Stonehenge/FIN datelist at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stoneday.htm


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=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====
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Tape 5 is being recorded around Glastonbury.
Tapes 1,2, 3 and 4 are on sale again.

Tapes 1 and 2 were recorded around campfires at
Solsbury Hill, Fairmile, Twyford Down and
at Kentish Town Rainbow Centre around 1995.

Tapes 3 and 4 were recorded at 'The Gathering'
in Devon in autumn 1997.

There are over a hundred musicians on the tapes.
See our website for details at
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices
or phone george 07970-378572




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=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====
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From: dicegeorge@...
To: stonehengepeace@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [stonehengepeace] down with men
Date: 21 May 2001 16:20

i remember a huge argument i got into with
rainbow sussana at the rainbow centre
kentish town about where the tent should
go at kingston green fair,
if we'd moved it back a bit then there's have
been a back space for the kids to play
and a front space for our leaflets and drums
and a path along the grass
where there was the year before
but Susssana said NO
IT STAYS WHERE IT IS
where it'd come out the back of the van
the night before and several women agreed
with me secretly that she was domineering
but after a few hours it was too late, the tent
stayed where we'd left it
and being a
man of principle/ grumpy old git
(delete at you will)
I smouldered for months
and didnt even go to pilton or the BGG
with them that year
( but held the fort back in london
until A+ Black Luke + saved us)
and couldnt apologise because i was
in the right,
thus in a hole
eventually i wrote her a letter
in a drunken stoned state like this
and asked her about it a few weeks later
when she said she hadnt read it
aaargh...
it went on and on about the righteousness
of my cause and that but ended with
something corny like 'but i love you'
or something like that -
not that she was my girlfriend or anything
i mean 'love' like , welll.,
its not a word i use much oftenish,
my introverted britishnesss,
but i whouldnt be emailing
this late at night
but then again
im a poet not a politician

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




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=== weblinks =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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http://www.festivaleye.com   (new 2001 website)
http://www.guilfin.org  (weekly events emails)
http://www.schnews.org.uk   (weekly eco news emails)
http://www.squall.co.uk    (alternative politics)
http://www.urban75.com - UK underground eco-rave-protest-drugs-e-zine
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm
     Stonehenge Campaign
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/ (Photos of Scottish stones)
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/  (eco-musicans)
http://www.marsbard.com/kebele  (Bristol community cafe)
http://www.bristle.co.uk  (Bristol's radikal information)
http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll    (Luke's festi Photos)
http://www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/   (best camp last summer)
http://www.symbolstone.org/albion/vanity.htm   (artist)
http://www.mandala.mcmail.com/  (Spacegoats CDs)
http://www.narmada.org/   (damn dams)
http://go.to/TA2000 Oppose the Terrorism Act 2000
http://www.itools.com/research-it/research-it.html
http://www.dicenews.com/live    (Rave Donor Cards)
http://www.toxicpop.freeserve.co.uk/j-day.htm
      (send a spliff to Anne Widecombe day)
http://www.levellers.org.uk/ Oxford Levellers, (land reform)
http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/repetitive-squeaks.htm
http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)

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,          /  Free  \   / The     \  / Stones \          ,
,          \________/   \_________/  \_______ /          ,
,       ____       ___           ___         ____        ,
,      /    \     /    \        /   \       /    \       ,
,     |      |   |      |   o  |     !     !      !      ,
,     |      |   |      |  m   |     !     !      !      ,
,                                                        ,
, Stonehenge Campaign c/o 99 Torriano Av, London NW5 2RX ,
,                                                        ,


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or when something interesting or amusing happens.

I wont email more often than once a week,
nor send big attachments, nor spam.

I collect my email weekly-ish.

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www.guilfin.org becomes www.guilfin.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guilfin Media" <guilfin@...>
To: <guilfin@...>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:32 PM
Subject: [Guilfin] www.guilfin.org becomes www.guilfin.net


> Oh no! I woke up this morning and Guilfin.org is a porn site!
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> We've had a few technical problems over at Guilfin Towers, mainly due to
> NetworkSolutions (the people we registered the domain with) selling the
> domain to a porn site at the end of our contract instead of us. They are
now
> trying to sell it back to us for over 500 US dollars (yeah right).
>
> So, we are back now at:
>
> http://www.guilfin.net/
>
> Please update your bookmarks, links and friend's brains.
>
> Peace, the Guilfin Web Crew
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> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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>
whats going on asks george????

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"We are oppressed by a feeling of helplessness
in the clutch of blind forces,
forces we have held in check
and made use of for our own purposes,
but which have now got their revenge on us
in a sudden breaking loose.

"Catastrophes in a mine do not affect us in this way;
we are angry and not overwhelmed,
for we know that with better precautions on the part of mine owners
the majority of accidents could be avoided.

"It may be that when we know more we shall have the same feeling
with regard to the sinking of the Titanic.

"It may be these 1,500 lives are a sacrifice to the lust for
quick passages, that it was a short cut across the Atlantic
that found this short cut to death.

"We are told that other transatlantic ships have lately
found many icebergs on their route.

"One may ask, then, why they kept it,
when the danger from submerged peaks is so plain?

"Why have not all ships kept,
and why did not the Titanic keep,
south out of the way of danger?

"The reason is plain:
liners must not get behind their scheduled time.

"If humanly possible, they must get in front of it.

"We withold our opinion until an inquiry has been made,
but if the facts are as we may well suspect,
then the death of 1,500 of our fellows
lies at the shipping company's door".

========

from Daily Herald 1912
quoted in The Penguin Book of 20th Century Protest
reviewed by me, george, at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/festone.htm#penguin-protest

if we do not learn from our mistakes
then we'll repeat them
again and again and again -
I know I do!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

sorry ignore my -[please change it]  message
i shouldnt have posted it to dicenews egroup
i pushed the wrong button
i didnt mean it
whoops.
[;-g]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

the email address i want to be able to post from
and to recieve IRL emails to is dicenews@...

but you reubscribed my replyto address dicegeoprge@...!
please try again - i cant post from dicegeorge@...




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~ george ~~  http://www.dicenews.com ~
~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dicenews
(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
~ orange phone 07970 378572 ~ george ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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Subject: subscribe
Date: 24 February 2001 18:10

subscribe

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subject: stonehenge equinox cancelled - Glast gig+meet March24th -
newsletter
date:    mon12march2001
from:    dicegeorge@...  dicenews@egroups.com
phone:   george  07970-378572  (orange)
to:      all friends
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Contents: [intro - SC newsletter deadline is now!]
           [datelist ]
           [ now age radio ]
           [Stonehenge Talking Circle@ Glastonbury 25March2001]
           [Tribal Voices gig +tape 5? s 1,2,3,4 for sale again..]
           [Glastonbury Assembly Rooms roof leaks £100,000]
           [george's writes
           [emails from you: ]
           [weblinks]
           [dicenews egroup: subscribe/unsubscribe]

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I'm printing a Free Information Network / Stonehenge Campaign
  Newsletter on Wed 4th March, please send contributions
  by email reply now.   dicegeorge@...

Stonehenge Equinox access is closed due to foot and mouth paranoia
and everyone i've talked too thinks it best nobody goes,
not even to the pavement.

Please come to the Stonehenge Meeting in Glastonbury
on Sunday 25th March at 2pm.

English Heriticage have promised open free access
to Stonehenge for the night before solstice sunrise
from Wednewday night June 20-21st 2001.

Now Age Radio / Mandala records have confirmed they're playing
and bringing their PA to Glastonbury for the
Tribal Voices gig on Saturday 24th March 2001

Glastonbury Assembly Rooms cancelled my vote
because I voted for all three options,
The existing Events Team got a vote of confidence
let's hope things get better!

I made complaint to the Police Complaints Authority
HQ Westminster on Thursday 8th March, copied to MP.



george  (dicegeorge)

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==== MARCH 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====

2001.03.20 Tuesday Spring Equinox -
            sunrise 6.a.m ish local time east
            please dont go to  Stonehenge

2001.03.24 Sat 8pm Glastonbury Assembly Rooms  £5/4??
            Benefit Gig for Tribal Voices + Stonehenge Campaign
            http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm
    please include this news in your mags, emails and webpages,
    a good picture to use is at:
    http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tvimages/fireside.jpg
    or phone george 07970-378572

2001.03.25 Sun 2-5pm Stonehenge Talking Circle in Glastonbury AssRooms
            http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/glastone.htm
      image@ http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/i/sgm2001banner.gif

2001.04.01  A large celebration to commemorate the Diggers
    and celebrate the opening of the 'Diggers Trail'
    is planned for Sunday April 1st 2001
    - further details in the New Year.
    http://www.oneworld.org/tlio


05/05/2001: Free The Weed! ;
  more/latest info at http://www.mi5.uk.com/venues/vuTSE309.html

For updates see Stonehenge/FIN datelist at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stoneday.htm



=========================================================
=========================    Now Age Radio    =========
=========================================================

Dear George, Here is some bumph on us!

Now Age Radio were brought together by producer and multi-instrumentalist
Dave Goodman in 1990. They were pioneers on the ethno-ambient dance scene,
playing at clubs like Megatripolis, Whirligig & Parallel Youniversity, as
well as regularly appearing at Glastonbury Festival and the Big Green
Gathering, using wind, sun and bicycle to power their PA. They have also
toured Japan, where they played on the first Japanese solar-powered stage
at Rainbow 2000 Festival on Mount Fuji. Their new CD "Sound Ideas for the
21st Century" combines ancient ethnic instruments with contemporary
technology, creating music from ambient trance to tribal dance.

Love Kathy
mandala7@...



=========================================================
=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================

Cameron and Lez will record Tribal Voices 5 this winter
at Glastonbury. 07759-165-893 01458-840306

Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm

Tapes 1,2, 3 and 4 are on sale again.

Tapes 1 and 2 were recorded around campfires at
   Solsbury Hill, Fairmile, Twyford Down and
   at Kentish Town Rainbow Centre around 1995.
Tapes 3 and 4 were recorded at 'The Gathering'
   in Devon in autumn 1997.
'Tribal Voices' is a collective of acoustic musicians,
   who want to retain creative autonomy over their work,
   much of which aims to promote environmental and social issues.

Tapes One and Two cost 5.50 english pounds each ,
   and Tapes Three and Four cost £7.50 each
     (including post and packing in UK),
cheques payable to "Tribal Voices", from
===    Tribal Voices,
===    73 Brailsford Rd,
===    Brixton,
===    London UK
===    SW2 2TB
please send IMO for overseas orders
== or From Harvest Forestry, New England St, BRIGHTON.
== or from Gothic Image, Glastonbury High Street
== or from Kebele Community Cafe, Bristol
Profits from the sale of these tapes support our projects,
                       and our visions of a greener future.
The Tribal Voices Co-operative has grown
   from the magic of the campfire,
   from the sense of comradeship we have found,
   coming together as one people to fight
   against the destruction of our common heritage...
There are over a hundred musicians on the tapes.
       See our website for details at
       http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices
       or phone george 07970-378572
Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.


=========================================================
== Stonehenge Talking Circle @ Glastonbury 25March2001 ==
====== http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm ==
=========================================================

On Saturday 24 March there'll be a benefit gig for
Stonehenge Campaign and Tribal Voices.

Then on Sunday a Stonehenge Talking Stick Circle.
Last year about a dozen of us met in the small room downstairs,
mostly the same who meet at Torrianno, and chatted in our usual
anarchic manner. But with a hundred this wouldnt work-
so many of us could talk for an hour.

In a Talking Stick Circle we sit in a circle,
   so everyone can see everyone,
   and a stick (or feather or broom or chillum..)
   is passed around the circle, and whoever has the stick
   talks (or remains silent) and we all listen.

I want to hear what the people who dont have the loudest voice
   and the loudest profile have to say. The cirlce enables this.

Short respectful points of information or jokes
      should be allowed, but concentration can be lost this way,
      (get the speakers agreement to this)

This year we want the big hall upstairs, a bigger circle,
hopefully with Hippies, Travellers, Druids, Pagans, Festivalers,
Tourists - no, we're people not labels.

I suggested this at a Stonehenge Peace Process meeting
and there was a feeling to go for the bigger room-
thousands of us were there June 2000, more are expected
in June 2001, and the more we discuss and spread consciousness
of the many dimensions, desires, beliefs, views and hopes
the better chance we have for a successful sunrise gathering
(and leaving) in this and fubut ture years - we had 14 years of
English Heriticage's contraception fences after the Free Festival
convoy was ambushed by Thatcher's police in 1985, summer 2000
wasnt perfect but it was a million times better than 1986-1999.

http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm
has a poster you can print out.

Please circulate details of this meeting, and come.

(dice) george  07970 378572






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=== weblinks =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm
     Stonehenge Campaign
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/ssitemap.htm : Stonehenge Sites Mapped *NEW*
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/scem2000.htm : year 2000 emails *NEW*

http://www.egroups.com/group/rainbow-circle *NEW*
http://www.egroups.com/group/stonehengepeace
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices

http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)


http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll/ocknfestis2.html Luke's Photos
http://bigfoot.com/RUN?FN=go&locale=stones   get @stones.com email
http://www.festivaleye.com   (new 2001 website)
http://www.guilfin.org  (weekly events emails)
http://www.schnews.org.uk   (weekly eco news emails)
http://www.squall.co.uk    (alternative politics)
http://www.urban75.com - UK underground eco-rave-protest-drugs-e-zine
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/ (Photos of Scottish stones)
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/  (eco-musicans)
http://www.marsbard.com/kebele  (Bristol community cafe)
http://www.bristle.co.uk  (Bristol's radikal information)
http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll    (Luke's festi Photos)
http://www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/   (best camp last summer)
http://www.symbolstone.org/albion/vanity.htm   (artist)
http://www.mandala.mcmail.com/  (Spacegoats CDs)
http://www.narmada.org/   (damn dams)
http://go.to/TA2000 Oppose the Terrorism Act 2000
http://www.itools.com/research-it/research-it.html
http://www.dicenews.com/live    (Rave Donor Cards)
http://www.levellers.org.uk/ Oxford Levellers, (land reform)
http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/repetitive-squeaks.htm
http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)

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,          /  Free  \   / The     \  / Stones \          ,
,          \________/   \_________/  \_______ /          ,
,       ____       ___           ___         ____        ,
,      /    \     /    \        /   \       /    \       ,
,     |      |   |      |   o  |     !     !      !      ,
,     |      |   |      |  m   |     !     !      !      ,
,                                                        ,
, Stonehenge Campaign c/o 99 Torriano Av, London NW5 2RX ,
,                                                        ,


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~ Stonehenge Campaign~~ Tribal Voices ~
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/george.htm
~~~~~~~~~  dicegeorge@...   ~
~~~~~~~~ (emails collected weeklyish)   ~
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(if after 7pm I'll phone you back cheaprate)
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=========================================================
subject: RainbowC 10th Feb Glastgig + Henge + TV5 + george's writes +
hotlinks
date:    32 January 2001 ???
from:    dicegeorge@...  dicenews@egroups.com
phone:   george  07970-378572  (orange)
to:      all friends
======================================================
====== Contents ============ www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================
Contents:
    [intro]
    [datelist + Rainbow Circle 10feb gig
    [Stonehenge Talking Circle@ Glastonbury 25March2001]
    [Tribal Voices gig +tape 5? s 1,2,3,4 for sale again..]
    [Glastonbury Assembly Rooms roof leaks £100,000 please!]
    [george's writes  to: Stonehenge Campaign Winter Newsletter:
        + to: Glastonbury Freestate
        + to: Rainbow Circle: Mediators, Letter, Magic Hat ]
    [your writes:: Nostradamus + Rainbow Circle]
    [weblinks]
    [dicenews egroup: subscribe/unsubscribe]

=========================================================
=== intro =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================

Hi, George here typing in my bus in Somerset.
    I'm looking for new work and/or projects
        for money, love or art.
Stonehenge Solstice Sunrise will be big this June:
    but sustainable, repeatable in 2002, 2003?
Rainbow Circle's going Magic Hat this summer:
    fairer than tickets, now everyone will contribute.
       Or will drongoism bankrupt years of progress?
    If this brave and foolish experiment is to work
                             then we need your help.
Tribal Voices 5 is being recorded in Glastonbury.

New Years Eve @ Aberystwyth, January bimbling around:
ex-girlfriends, musicians, kids, teenagers, hippies,
friends and family old and new. All Right? No,half left..
this aint the best of all possible worlds
and I made several mistakes in January -
   lost my phone on a bus, didn't fix my bus diff,
    stayed silent when I should have spoke up,
     sent an email when maybe I shouldn't have...
                see my homepage for latest news...
[george]

=========================================================
=== datelist =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================


==== FEBRARY 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====
Wed February 7th:  8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting
                    at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London

Sat February 10th: Imbolc: Rainbow Circle Benefit Gig
      at Glastonbury Assembly Rooms  8pm  MAGIC HAT
Dreamwalker ~ Yoghurt Thrash ~ Simon and Friends
Tim Hall ~  Fastest to Canada  ~ Crystal Healing Bowls


==== MARCH 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====

2001.03.20 Tuesday Spring Equinox -
            sunrise 6.a.m ish local time east of Stonehenge

2001.03.24 Sat 8pm Glastonbury Assembly Rooms  £5/4??
            Benefit Gig for Tribal Voices + Stonehenge Campaign
            http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm
    please include this news in your mags, emails and webpages,
    a good picture to use is at:
    http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tvimages/fireside.jpg
    or phone george 07970-378572

2001.03.25 Sun 2-5pm Stonehenge Talking Circle in Glastonbury AssRooms
            http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/glastone.htm
      image@ http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/i/sgm2001banner.gif

2001.04.01  A large celebration to commemorate the Diggers
    and celebrate the opening of the 'Diggers Trail'
    is planned for Sunday April 1st 2001
    - further details in the New Year.
    http://www.oneworld.org/tlio


05/05/2001: Free The Weed! ;
more/latest info at http://www.mi5.uk.com/venues/vuTSE309.html

For updates see Stonehenge/FIN datelist at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stoneday.htm


=========================================================
=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================

Cameron and Lez will record Tribal Voices 5 this winter
at Glastonbury. 07759-165-893 01458-840306

Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm

Tapes 1,2, 3 and 4 are on sale again.

Tapes 1 and 2 were recorded around campfires at
   Solsbury Hill, Fairmile, Twyford Down and
   at Kentish Town Rainbow Centre around 1995.
Tapes 3 and 4 were recorded at 'The Gathering'
   in Devon in autumn 1997.
'Tribal Voices' is a collective of acoustic musicians,
   who want to retain creative autonomy over their work,
   much of which aims to promote environmental and social issues.

Tapes One and Two cost 5.50 english pounds each ,
   and Tapes Three and Four cost £7.50 each
     (including post and packing in UK),
cheques payable to "Tribal Voices", from
===    Tribal Voices,
===    73 Brailsford Rd,
===    Brixton,
===    London UK
===    SW2 2TB
please send IMO for overseas orders
== or From Harvest Forestry, New England St, BRIGHTON.
== or from Gothic Image, Glastonbury High Street
== or from Kebele Community Cafe, Bristol
Profits from the sale of these tapes support our projects,
                       and our visions of a greener future.
The Tribal Voices Co-operative has grown
   from the magic of the campfire,
   from the sense of comradeship we have found,
   coming together as one people to fight
   against the destruction of our common heritage...
There are over a hundred musicians on the tapes.
       See our website for details at
       http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices
       or phone george 07970-378572
Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.


=========================================================
== Stonehenge Talking Circle @ Glastonbury 25March2001 ==
====== http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm ==
=========================================================

On Saturday 24 March there'll be a benefit gig for
Stonehenge Campaign and Tribal Voices.

Then on Sunday a Stonehenge Talking Stick Circle.
Last year about a dozen of us met in the small room downstairs,
mostly the same who meet at Torrianno, and chatted in our usual
anarchic manner. But with a hundred this wouldnt work-
so many of us could talk for an hour.

In a Talking Stick Circle we sit in a circle,
   so everyone can see everyone,
   and a stick (or feather or broom or chillum..)
   is passed around the circle, and whoever has the stick
   talks (or remains silent) and we all listen.

I want to hear what the people who dont have the loudest voice
   and the loudest profile have to say. The cirlce enables this.

Short respectful points of information or jokes
      should be allowed, but concentration can be lost this way,
      (get the speakers agreement to this)

This year we want the big hall upstairs, a bigger circle,
hopefully with Hippies, Travellers, Druids, Pagans, Festivalers,
Tourists - no, we're people not labels.

I suggested this at a Stonehenge Peace Process meeting
and there was a feeling to go for the bigger room-
thousands of us were there June 2000, more are expected
in June 2001, and the more we discuss and spread consciousness
of the many dimensions, desires, beliefs, views and hopes
the better chance we have for a successful sunrise gathering
(and leaving) in this and fubut ture years - we had 14 years of
English Heriticage's contraception fences after the Free Festival
convoy was ambushed by Thatcher's police in 1985, summer 2000
wasnt perfect but it was a million times better than 1986-1999.

http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm
has a poster you can print out.

Please circulate details of this meeting, and come.

(dice) george  07970 378572



=========================================================
=== Glastonbury Assemby Rooms Roo =====
=========================================================
From: "Bruce Garrard" [bruce@...]
To: "Dice George" [dicegeorge@...]
Subject: Assembly Rooms agenda etc
Date: 13 January 2001 08:45

Hi George

Here's the Assembly Rooms mail-out,

In October, due to changing goal posts and many other considerations,
the Shareholders voted not to continue working on a £100,000 RDA  grant
to repair the roof and to do other essential maintenance on the
building.  Having made that decision, we still had to find a way to
ensure these repairs, whilst the decision also implied a major  rethink
on the future of the Assembly Rooms.
For this reason, we asked any groups that might have a plan for the
Rooms' use and repair to submit a proposal including a précis of no more
than two sides of an A4 piece of paper.  In addition to material
concerning how they want to use the Rooms, we have specifically asked
them to provide information about how they plan to cover the necessary
repairs and other financial commitments, and also, how the Assembly
Rooms would intend to relate to the community at large.
We have received three proposals, and one that we are considering to be
a motion - as it does not actually address any of the things a proposal
requires (what the project would do, how the finances would be covered,
etc.).  We enclose copies of this motion and the three précis with this
letter for your perusal.
• Stella Joy's motion to delay the vote until the March AGM.
• The People's Assembly Rooms Group Proposal
• The Goddess Temple Proposal
• The Assembly Rooms Events Team Proposal\



The full proposals should be available on the AR website:
http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/assembly-rooms/proposals.html







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=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====
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to: Stonehenge Campaign Winter Newsletter:

=== Letter From Karelia: 13december2000: ===
I hated our September S.C. front picture because
I'm against dead prerecorded music at Stonehenge:
     the drumming and dancing this June was great.
June 2001 lets have beer and fire in one corner,
      RinkyDink, tame druids, dry kids in others;
and walking up the Avenue and in and out the Stones
    but no glass or climbing or violence or dogs
       but love and self policing and honour.
== www.dicegeorge.com  == 07970 378572 ==


to: Glastonbury FreeState magazine:

===poem  from karelia h20:01 20/01/2001===
dear cousins, glastafarians and glastonians:
dancing in the assembly rooms december 2000
i saw an invisible black hole in the middle
where our Elkie and her friends used to play;
and it seemed to me that oh so many of the
dongas/tribalvoices generation weren't there;
if she'd've looked down from her little hippy
heaven then she'd've thunk where are they?
with love from www.dicegeorge.com 07970-378572.
==============================================





From: "George ~ www.dicenews.com"
To: rainbow-circle@egroups.com
Subject: george rainbow circle newsletter 20:30 fri 12/01/2001  draft
Date: 12 January 2001 13:22


stuff for rainbow circle newsletter
poems from george
20:30 fri 12/01/2001  draft

preferred font: courier or and fixed width



=======================================
Festival Eye 2000 Correction:
George's review of Beltane 1999 was
pasted onto the end of Margaret
Greenfield's review of Beltane 2000.
========================================



==========================================
==Mediators RFC - Request For Comment  ==
=========================================
"Perhaps when situations arise,
mutually agreed mediators could
talk to all sides of the problems and
clarify beliefs and misunderstandings -
perhaps bringing considered proposals
to a bigger group."
     (Some issues are too complicated
     or confidential or unimportant
     for big meetings to resolve. e.g:
Two argued at a camp, left in a huff:
perhaps neither will come next summer;
winter time mediation could help.
Or when something erupts,
rather than a huge immediate circle:
    a mediatior could spend a day
    shuttling around, sussing out).
I asked X to mediate on Z between me and Y.
   "Mutually Agreed" means all three must
    consent to and define the process).
This is "Self Policing".     []george.
==========================================




========================================
========== ON MAGIC HATTERS ============
As a first-year and last-reserve
on the Winter Working Group
I hope I haven't blown it by finally
not abstaining but voting for Magic Hat.
But it was a choice between
       my pessimimism, bitter experience,
       fears of drongo lunchout parasites;
or of hippy heaven dreams,
       of everyone helping as they should.
                 So I voted for Christmas.
Prove the Thatcheroids wrong, I dare you.
== diceGeorge (Pelcomb Mutants 1979++) ==
=========================================




========================================
=== Letter from Karelia bus 1/1/2001 ===
Thanks to Maggi Nichols for music and
inviting me into the Cauldron 2000 -
I wish I'd learnt how to cook so yummy.
The family accepted,absorbed,transcended
our past problems and lost opportunities,
and Elkie's stupid death, etcetera.
     And I discovered Shanti dog's secret
for finding her tennis ball when I throw
it at night - she pisses on it and finds
it by smell. (yeuk- now wash your hands)
== Happy New Age === use power wisely ==
===  www.dicegeorge.com 07970-378572 ===
========================================

=====================================================




=== george's writes === Only Time =====

Someone please record my song
"The Only Time I Lied
(Was When I Said I Didn't Love You Any More)"
to Number One for Valentines Day
and send me the songwriting dosh
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/onlytime.htm

=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====

for loads more of my writings see my homepage at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicegeor.htm
and http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicetime.htm






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=== emails from you ======== www.dicenews.com email =====
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]From: "banners" [heather@...]
]Subject: Fw: [globalactionscotland] Happy new year!
]Date: 06 January 2001 05:09
] I never thought much of the predictions of Nostradamus,
] but this one I just have to pass on.
]
]                    In 1555, Nostradamus wrote:
]
]                    "Come the millennium, month 12,
]                    In the home of greatest power,
]                    The village idiot will come forth
]                    To be acclaimed the leader."
]
]
]                                          (from info-shop news)
]
]
]

======================================================================

from david baker:
At Nick Kollerstrom's Perihelion party on the night of the 3rd, it was
rumoured that someone had spoken to someone else who had heard from
elsewhere that the Winter Working Group had voted to go ticket camp, shock
silence ensued, until ...all of a sudden... news was rushed forward from
digital minutes that indeed on Saturday such had been the gathering
momentum, only to be overturned the following day by unanimous vote 10 to 0
to go Magic Hat, great celebration was to be had and pledges immediately
made to give full hearted commitment to such a venture from these the
heathen hordes of London.

======================================================================

From: [treetoprainbow@...]
To: [rainbow-circle@egroups.com]
Subject: [rainbow-circle] Ideas about Magic Hat Draft 2
Date: 02 January 2001 12:45

Hallo everyone!!!!!! As some of you will have already of heard R.C. are
trying out Magic Hat this year...Yes all the camps....Many of us feel that
it
is so important that in this years Newsletter our perspective of what is,
and
what is not Magic Hat at Rainbow Circle must be accurately described with a
loving touch. Someone described to me this week-end, that it is hard in this
country to get the message over to people, that Magic Hat is not either
contribution or energy giving. But both.  So please read through the
following draft. then e-mail me personally       treetoprainbow@... With
your ideas, or of course send your idea to all of us in this Group Address.
It sure saves me a lot of time personalising it to you all. Lots of happy
tunes and trails Lourve the poolies (Duncan Trisha & Alex) Thanks 4 this
Woody and George,and who ever else?????

Rainbow Circle is applying Magic Hat to our Camp Structures this season.
WHEN YOU FIRST ARRIVE AT THE CAMP, YOU WILL BE WELCOMED IN THE GATE
DOME, WITH A LOVELY CUPPA AND (HOPEFULLY) A CHEERY SMILE, THERE YOU
WILL FIND BRIGHT, USEFUL INFORMATION AND GUIDELINES TO HELP US ALL
HAVE A WONDERFUL STRESS FREE CAMP. THERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO OFFER
YOUR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION INTO THE MAGIC HAT, WHICH WILL GO
TOWARDS THE COST OF RENTING THE FIELD, MATERIALS FOR WORKSHOPS,
TRANSPORTATION OF EQUIPMENT TO THE SITE, OF MAINTAINING THE TRANSPORT
AND EQUIPMENT, WATER FOR THE CAMP, FIREWOOD AND PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE
TO
PROTECT US ALL.  AND OF COURSE THIS CONTRIBUTION WILL ALSO HELP COVER
THE COSTS OF YOUR WONDERFUL, WINTER NEWSLETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(THIS IS NOT READY FOR PRINT, BUT I HOPE IT HELPS ALONG THE  WAY……….


LOVE AND LIGHT

          SU
XXXXXXXXXXXXX

So do you see that it is not totally Magic Hat???????????????
looking forward to all your replies....Lourve Trisha.
======================================================================


----- Original Message -----
To: [dicegeorge@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 3:46 PM
]
] (StoneForm)  I have found the TRUTH about STONEHENGE.
..it is a portent of
the coming ANTICHRIST! SEE THE WEBSITE.
] (From)  Scotland
] (Email)  hellfire@...
] (Website)  http://maxpages.com/kingarthur


From: "George ~ www.dicenews.com" [dicegeorge@...]
To: [hellfire@...]
Cc: [stonehengepeace@egroups.com]
Subject: [stonehengepeace] hellfire - no
Date: 08 January 2001 06:11

stonehenge was built thousand of years
before jesus christ was born
and preached that love is the highest law




======================================================================




Solstice Call!

As you are probably aware we held open Solstice Celebrations
at Stonehenge in June 2000.

We hope for an even better event this summer -
perhaps we'll even see the sun rise instead of drizzle.

I think it would be really nice to have a large Rainbow Presence
at the Solstice. My vision is to have a chanting circle -
a sacred space, formed by living human beings -
an open and welcoming space, a space which everybody can join,
but which holds the energy of this most sacred time.

Unfortunately, when the Great Goddess distributed her gifts she didn't
think fit to give me the ability to sing either in tune or in time.
Anybody from my Rainbow Sisters and Brothers
who would like to take part in such a chanting circle
please contact me  on 0117 955 1852.
Blessed be,
Kasia.




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=== weblinks =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm
     Stonehenge Campaign
www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/ssitemap.htm : Stonehenge Sites Mapped *NEW*
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/scem2000.htm : year 2000 emails *NEW*

http://www.egroups.com/group/rainbow-circle *NEW*
http://www.egroups.com/group/stonehengepeace
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices

http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)


http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll/ocknfestis2.html Luke's Photos
http://bigfoot.com/RUN?FN=go&locale=stones   get @stones.com email
http://www.festivaleye.com   (new 2001 website)
http://www.guilfin.org  (weekly events emails)
http://www.schnews.org.uk   (weekly eco news emails)
http://www.squall.co.uk    (alternative politics)
http://www.urban75.com - UK underground eco-rave-protest-drugs-e-zine
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/ (Photos of Scottish stones)
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/  (eco-musicans)
http://www.marsbard.com/kebele  (Bristol community cafe)
http://www.bristle.co.uk  (Bristol's radikal information)
http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll    (Luke's festi Photos)
http://www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/   (best camp last summer)
http://www.symbolstone.org/albion/vanity.htm   (artist)
http://www.mandala.mcmail.com/  (Spacegoats CDs)
http://www.narmada.org/   (damn dams)
http://go.to/TA2000 Oppose the Terrorism Act 2000
http://www.itools.com/research-it/research-it.html
http://www.dicenews.com/live    (Rave Donor Cards)
http://www.levellers.org.uk/ Oxford Levellers, (land reform)
http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/repetitive-squeaks.htm
http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)

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,            ______      _________    _______            ,
,          /  Free  \   / The     \  / Stones \          ,
,          \________/   \_________/  \_______ /          ,
,       ____       ___           ___         ____        ,
,      /    \     /    \        /   \       /    \       ,
,     |      |   |      |   o  |     !     !      !      ,
,     |      |   |      |  m   |     !     !      !      ,
,                                                        ,
, Stonehenge Campaign c/o 99 Torriano Av, London NW5 2RX ,
,                                                        ,


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subject: dates+TribalVoicesTapes+Stonehenge+Rainbows+more
date:    mon04december2000
from:    dicegeorge@...  dicenews@egroups.com
phone:   george  07970-378572  (orange)
to:      all friends

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====== Contents ============ www.dicenews.com email =====
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Contents: [intro]
           [datelist + 21December2001 Stonehenge Solstice
           [Tribal Voices tapes 1,2,3,4 for sale again.. and 5?]
           [Music 4 U @ December 9th ]
           [Kingsley Hall Cross Cultures December 14th]
           [Stonehenge Talking Circle@ Glastonbury 25March2001]
           [george's writes]
           [warpspam  - no dicespam ]
           [datelist]
           [weblinks]
           [www.dicenews.com subscribe/unsubscribe]

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=== intro =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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Hi, I'm in London for a few days, visiting friends, computering,
   networking, selling and distributing Tribal Voices cassettes,
   and Rainbow Circle Winter Working Group meet (discussing whether
    to risk doing all next season 'magic hat', and what that means),
  and  Stonehenge Campaign Meeting and babysitting and playing music..

Then weekend @ Glastonbury, then back to Somerset to MOT my bus.
The weather's wet and windy, the TLIO windmill's charging batteries,
my rain water barrels are full. What I hate is sunburn summers.

I've added some more real audio sounds to my website,
see my homepage for latest news...
www.geocities.com/soho/9000/george.htm

george.  [ dicegeorge@... ]

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=== datelist =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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=== DECEMBER 2000 ========= www.dicenews.com email =====


2000.12.05 Tue 8pm Green Angel music jam, Borough.
2000.12.06 Wed 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting
                    at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
2000.12.07 Thu Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: ROB NEWMAN
2000.12.08 Fri Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: IMAGINE PEACE
            ~A celebration of the life & works of John Lennon
            on the 20th anniversary of his death
          All day free event featuring  A Beatles Disco, A Bed-In
           and a sing-song in the spirit of "Give Peace a Chance"

2000.12.09 Sat Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: 7pm -12p £6/£4
                  MUSIC 4 U SOUND SPIRIT PROMOTIONS launch party
               01458 831753 (daytimes only   RuthFlute@...
           French Renaissance music and dancing, Yuletide carols,
               then some of the most happening bands of 2000:
               Halo, Fantasmagoria and Altered Native.

Sunday 10 Dec 2000  Human Rights Day;
          Tel: 0171 814 6200; URL: http://www.amnesty.org.uk

Sunday 10 Dec 2000   The Diggers Memorial Stone is to be put in place.
    The stone will be erected by Andrew Whittle (the sculptor)
    Please come along after lunch, just opposite Weybridge station.
    Please call Andrew Bradstock 0207 916 8633, Judith 01544 260847
    or Mark Brown 0208 357 8504 for further info.
    http://www.oneworld.org/tlio   diggers350@egroups.com


Thursday December 14th 7-11pm.Cross Cultures For Christmas
     Kingsley Hall, Powis Road, off Bruce Rd. London E3 3HJ
         Bromley By Bow tube and Bow Rd.Stn.DLR
      a fund raiser for The Gandhi Foundation
      A new film by Conscious Cinema:  Suits and Savages.
      PLUS: Speakers, Discussion, Mingling and FOOD n REFRESHMENTS.
     Come as glittery as you dare.  Bring offerings.


2000.12.16 Sat noon - Druids @ Avebury
2000.12.17 Sun noon - Druids @ Primrose Hill, London
2000.12.20 Wed Glastonbury AssRooms: WINTER BURNING songs & stories

2000.12.21 Winter Solstice Sunrise Gathering @Stonehenge: 7.am
             http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/stonecam.htm


2000.12.30 Sat Glastonbury AssRooms: ASSEMBLY ROOMS BENEFIT PARTY

==== JANUARY 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====

Festival Eye Magazine  2001 issue will be out in March!!!
    The deadline for articles/pictures is the end of 2000,
    leaving enough time to put the magazine together,
    and print and distribute it without busting a gut!
    http://www.festivaleye.com      festivaleye@...

Wednesday January 17th 2001 2pm      GEORGE HOTEL AMESBURY
     TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION FOR STONEHENGE
      English Heritage have agreed to repeat the public access
      for the Summer  Solstice in 2001.
      Does this mean our work is finished? Hardly.
     George Firsoff (Secretary)  Tel 0117-9542273
http://www.greenleaf.demon.co.uk

==== FEBRARY 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====

Sat February 3rd: Imbolc: Rainbow Circle Benefit Gig
      at Glastonbury ASssembly Rooms

Wed February 7th:  8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting
                    at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London



Monday February 12 2001 deadline for submissions to
    Rainbow Circle Newsletter www.rainbowcircle.co.uk
    treetoprainbow@...


==== MARCH 2001 ============ www.dicenews.com email =====

2001.03.20 Tuesday Spring Equinox -
            sunrise 6.a.m ish local time east of Stonehenge

2001.03.24 Sat 8pm Glastonbury Assembly Rooms  £5/4??
            Benefit Gig for Tribal Voices + Stonehenge Campaign
            http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm
    please include this news in your mags, emails and webpages,
    a good picture to use is at:
    http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tvimages/fireside.jpg
    or phone george 07970-378572

2001.03.25 Sun 2-5pm Stonehenge Talking Circle in Glastonbury
AssRooms
            http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm


2001.04.01  A large celebration to commemorate the Diggers
    and celebrate the opening of the 'Diggers Trail'
    is planned for Sunday April 1st 2001
    - further details in the New Year.
    http://www.oneworld.org/tlio


05/05/2001: Free The Weed! ;
  more/latest info at http://www.mi5.uk.com/venues/vuTSE309.html

For updates see Stonehenge/FIN datelist at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stoneday.htm


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=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====
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Tapes 1,2, 3 and 4 are on sale again.

Tapes 1 and 2 were recorded around campfires at
Solsbury Hill, Fairmile, Twyford Down and
at Kentish Town Rainbow Centre around 1995.

Tapes 3 and 4 were recorded at 'The Gathering'
in Devon in autumn 1997.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====

'Tribal Voices' is a collective of acoustic musicians,
who want to retain creative autonomy over their work,
much of which aims to promote environmental and social issues.
We want to reach a wide audience and so we are pursuing
bookings for performances at mainstream events
as well as organising our own seasonal gatherings.
We are recording audio-tapes, producing a film of our work
and building an archive of recorded music.

We also intend to run workshops and educational projects.
We are working towards financial self-sufficiency,
and we intend to support and encourage others involved
in similar projects.
We are bound by a belief in nature and community,
with a range of feelings and experiences in common
through our relationship with the earth.
Many of us have been inspired by the protest movement
and the trend towards revitalising
the traditional seasonal gatherings.
It is a multicultural, living tradition,
not bound by mainstream views.
We are a family on the frontiers of something new,
a community of mutual understanding
taking collective responsibility for the future.
We are a bunch of dreamers
who believe dreams can become manifest
in a world where we are one with all things.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com/tv =====

  Tapes One and Two cost 5.50 english pounds each ,
and Tapes Three and Four cost £7.50 each
(including post and packing in UK),
cheques payable to "Tribal Voices", from
===    Tribal Voices,
===    73 Brailsford Rd,
===    Brixton,
===    London UK
===    SW2 2TB
     (please send IMO for overseas orders)

== or From Harvest Forestry, New England St, BRIGHTON.
== or from Kebele Community Cafe, Bristol
== perhaps from Gothic Image, Glastonbury
== perhaps from White Spring, Glastonbury
== or from RuthFlute 01458 831753 Glastonbury
== or from George or any 'member' of Tribal Voices



Profits from the sale of these tapes support our projects,
and our visions of a greener future.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com/tv =====


The Tribal Voices Co-operative has grown
from the magic of the campfire,
from the sense of comradeship we have found,
coming together as one people to fight
against the destruction of our common heritage:
Our sacred sites, hallowed hills and ancient forests
are under constant threat from modern lifestyles,
consumerism, "growth", building, fast cars,
new roads, pollution and destruction.

Gathering the tribes at the head of the Dragon'
on Twyford Down, we made our stand.

Empowered by nature's forces and
a tangible connection with our ancestors -
We focussed on our cause with painted faces,
music and pixie pranks -
We defied the diggers
and the media looked on with interest.
We held the moral ground,
Non-Violent Direct Action was news
at Twyford - M11/London, Solsbury Hill,
Newbury, Fairmile and many other protest camps.
Four years later,
the roads programme has been cut back,
the Government announcing that there will be
no more new roads
and an ever growing army of ordinary folk
who are prepared to say "No"
to the injustices of our society.
We have time to reflect on
the messages we are giving to the public,
to become even more environmentally aware,
to find harmony with nature,
living low impact lifestyles.
We find our true identities.
Clive & Chrissy 199?

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com  =====

There are over a hundred musicians on the tapes.
See our website for details at
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices
or phone george 07970-378572

Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.

Raven might record Tribal Voices 5 this winter around Bristol

Gaia might record Tribal Voices 6 in Spring 2001



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=============== Music 4 U + December 9th===================
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PRESS RELEASE

MUSIC 4U

Launch Date:  Saturday, December 9th 2000
Venue:  Assembly Rooms of Glastonbury
Time: 	 7pm Start, 12pm Finish.
Tickets:  £6 / £4 (concessions)
Ticket and Information Hotline: 01458 831753 (daytimes only



RuthFlute@...
Sharp_pointy_stick@...



New Music Promotions Agency: Music 4U Sound Spirit Promotions,
    launched in Somerset, promoting musicians from across the UK.

Music 4U Sound Spirit Promotions is a not-for-profits arts
organisation,
who will be celebrating their launch at The Glastonbury Assembly
Rooms
on Saturday December 9th with a top night of entertainment.
At this event there will be acclaimed musicians from Somerset,
London and Brighton.

The evening will begin with French Renaissance music and dancing,
performed by talented musicians from Glastonbury.
Then Yuletide carols, directed by Tim Hall,
of the Invisible Opera Company of Tibet, with local singers.
The evening will continue with some of the most happening bands of
2000: Halo, Fantasmagoria and Altered Native.

Music 4U Sound Spirit Promotions is a young and energetic promotions
agency, created for the benefit of musicians and audiences alike. We
are based in Glastonbury, Somerset, and as we build, we network
across the UK.


30 Benedict Street, Glastonbury,
Somerset, BA6 9EX
01458 831753
Contact: Ruth Edgell or Emma Harper
RuthFlute@...
Sharp_pointy_stick@...

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=============== Kingsley Hall December 14th================
===========================================================


Cross Cultures For Christmas
DATE: Thursday December 14th, TIME:7.0.-11.0.pm.
ADDRESS: Kingsley Hall, Powis Road, off Bruce Rd. London E3 3HJ
         Bromley By Bow tube and Bow Rd.Stn.DLR

WHO FOR:This event is a fund raiser on behalf of The Gandhi Foundation
  [reg charity] so please bring your donations large and small.
  We are in the process of revisioning our direction and
  letting some dusty  stereotypes blow with the wind.
  If you want to find out more call 0208 981 8409.


MAIN EVENT: Suits and Savages.
  A new documentary film produced and presented by Conscious Cinema.
  This film examines the relationship between The World Bank,
  Indian Tribals and the disappearing Bengal Tiger.
  PLUS: Speakers, Discussion, Mingling
  and FOOD n REFRESHMENTS.

WHO'S INVITED: Urban Nomads, Bankers, Aristocrats, Street
Reclaimers,   Politicians, Pagans, The Glitterati, The Lonely, The
Lonely, Nudists,
  People On The Edge, Social and Environmental Activists, Squatters,
  Academics, The Street Wise, The Seriously Rich, Travellers, Media
Tarts,   Civil Servants, Reds, Pinks, The Reborn, Royalty, The
Neighbours
  and all the friends you can call up.

WHERE:
  at the famous Kingsley Hall
  where Gandhi stayed in 1931 for twelve weeks
  and where R.D.Laing of the anti-psychiatry movement,
  initiated a daring experiment.

Come as glittery as you dare.
Bring offerings of food, candles,
juicy fruit, homemade cake, wine and juice.



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== Stonehenge Talking Circle @ Glastonbury 25March2001 ==
=========================================================

On Saturday 24 March there'll be a benefit gig for
Stonehenge Campaign and Tribal Voices.

Then on Sunday a Stonehenge Talking Stick Circle.
Last year about a dozen of us met in the small room downstairs,
mostly the same who meet at Torrianno, and chatted in our usual
anarchic manner. But with a hundred this wouldnt work.

In a Talking Stick Circle we sit in a circle,
   so everyone can see everyone,
   and a stick (or feather or broom or chillum..)
   is passed around the circle, and whoever has the stick
   talks (or remains silent) and we all listen.

I want to hear what the people who dont have the loudest voice
   and the loudest profile have to say. The circle enables this.

Short respectful points of information or jokes
      should be allowed, but concentration can be lost this way,
      (get the speakers nodded agreement to this)

This year we want the big hall upstairs, a bigger circle,
hopefully with Hippies, Travellers, Druids, Pagans, Festivalers,
Tourists - no, we're people not labels.

I suggested this at a Stonehenge Peace Process meeting
and there was a feeling to go for the bigger room upstairs -
thousands of us were at Stonehenge June 2000, more are expected
in June 2001, and the more we discuss and spread consciousness
of the many dimensions, desires, beliefs, views and hopes
the better chance we have for a successful sunrise gathering
(and leaving) in this and future years - we had 14 years of
English Heriticage's contraception fences after the Free Festival
convoy was ambushed by Thatcher's police in 1985, summer 2000
wasn't perfect but it was a million times better than 1986-1999.

http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm
has a poster you can print out.

Please circulate details of this meeting, and come.

(dice) george  07970 378572



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=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====
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== Letter From Karelia Thu14Sept2000 ==
           June 2000 some of us walked
as a family from London to Stonehenge
       (but nobody walked every step).
Then half a night and dawn inside -
it was wet and windy, good, cos
loads more people could have been a
problem clearing the Stones in time
for English Heriticage to open their
turnstiles at 9 a.m. as a-greed ...
   Me, I tin-whistled and danced to the
real live drumming - I policed myself.
   Starman Bowie at Pilton was great,
but I missed the Wailers, and Big Andy
guitaring after PAIN on Tuesday...
   Big Green Gathering Stonehenge
Exhibition bus, and Saturday night
fluting with Stone drummers four hours,
Sunday 12volt DG Lightshow @ RinkyDink
with Nik, ShakShak, + Kangaroo Moon.
   Angel broke her leg but Sunch was OK.
     Little Elkie got killed by a car:
     yet another stupidly sad accident.
Craig + Martine had another baby girl.
   2 weeks at Cauldren Camp, babysat +
fluted and lit and sorted 99% of our
Rainbow Circle Politics re: a certain
person's infamous rumours and animus..
   Then more dancing at Exodus Fest.
Next year... hang on, there's another
Solstice in December - I want more
Braziers and drums and mutual respect
and love and understanding (not that
I understand half of what's going on
                  - it's a mad world!)
   your cousin,  www.dicegeorge.com
====  orange phone 07970 378572 ====



========= Spirit Children ===============================

Ken Wiwa, son of the murdered activist Ken-Saro Wiwa,
writing of the unexpected death of his brother says:

In many, many ways Tedum's death was the turning point
in my life. Trying to make sense of it, I began to look
into the ways Africans deal with death, and I came to
understand that my little brother was a spirit child.
A spirit child is born and reborn many times, moving
between the spirit world and the real world. When
a spirit child is recalled, he has to go, and thus
spirit children often die in childbirth or at a young
age. Ben Okri's wonderful evocation of childhood, The
Famished Road, tells the story of Azaro Lazarus - a
spirit child who refuses to return to the spirit world
when his time is up.

=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====

Someone please record my song
"The Only Time I Lied
(Was When I Said I Didn't Love You Any More)"
to Number One for Valentines Day
and send me the songwriting dosh
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/onlytime.htm

=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====

for loads more of my writings see my homepage at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicegeor.htm
and http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicetime.htm


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=== warpspam =============== www.dicenews.com email =====
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I got spammed by Brian of the warp, accidentally.
He set up an email discussion list at smartgroups
and subscribed a thousand of us onto it.
It automatically sent all messages to everyone on the list.
A dozen of them had automatic replies on.
These 12 replies were forwarded to all thousand of us.
12 of whom automatically replied -
1000 x 12 x 12 x 12 ...

Unfortunately I was in a London cybercafe
when he subscribed me, and sent a hello message.
So my message was near the front of the warpspam,
(and got echoed and echoed automatically as above)
Some people thought it was my fault ..
and spammed me in revenge.
Gandhi said "An eye for an eye and the world will be blind".

To stop such warpspam I registered with
http://www.smartgroups.com
and change  email delivery to DIGEST or  WEBONLY.

         =======To delete lots of emails ======
To delete lots of emails without POP downloading them
got to http://www.dicenews.com,
choose Twigger, logon, select lots of boxes and delete them.
( Tab Tab Space Tab Tab Space Tab Tab Space
   is a keyboard shortcut I use at hotmail too ).

                  ==== NO dicespam ======
This dicenews egroup should not spam like warpspam
because I have set permissions such that I am the
only person able to post to the group.

If you receive two of these dice emails it's probably
because you have two email addresses and they're both on
the dicenews egroup - tell me about it
dicegeorge@..., or follow the instructions
in your introductory email from egroups, logon to
www.egroups.com and change your preferences,
or unsubscribe one of your accounts.

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http://www.festivaleye.com   (new 2001 website)
http://www.guilfin.org  (weekly events emails)
http://www.schnews.org.uk   (weekly eco news emails)
http://www.squall.co.uk    (alternative politics)
http://www.urban75.com - UK underground eco-rave-protest-drugs-e-zine
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm
     Stonehenge Campaign
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/ (Photos of Scottish stones)
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/  (eco-musicans)
http://www.marsbard.com/kebele  (Bristol community cafe)
http://www.bristle.co.uk  (Bristol's radikal information)
http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll    (Luke's festi Photos)
http://www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/   (best camp last summer)
http://www.symbolstone.org/albion/vanity.htm   (artist)
http://www.mandala.mcmail.com/  (Spacegoats CDs)
http://www.narmada.org/   (damn dams)
http://go.to/TA2000 Oppose the Terrorism Act 2000
http://www.itools.com/research-it/research-it.html
http://www.dicenews.com/live    (Rave Donor Cards)
http://www.toxicpop.freeserve.co.uk/j-day.htm
      (send a spliff to Anne Widecombe day)
http://www.levellers.org.uk/ Oxford Levellers, (land reform)
http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/repetitive-squeaks.htm
http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)

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,            ______      _________    _______            ,
,          /  Free  \   / The     \  / Stones \          ,
,          \________/   \_________/  \_______ /          ,
,       ____       ___           ___         ____        ,
,      /    \     /    \        /   \       /    \       ,
,     |      |   |      |   o  |     !     !      !      ,
,     |      |   |      |  m   |     !     !      !      ,
,                                                        ,
, Stonehenge Campaign c/o 99 Torriano Av, London NW5 2RX ,
,                                                        ,


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=== subscribe/unsubscribe === www.dicenews.com email ====
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dicenews - dicegeorge's alternactive Stonehengey news
- I'll post here when I update my homepage,
or the Stonehenge Campaign Page, or Tribal Voices,
or when something interesting or amusing happens.

I wont email more often than once a week,
nor send big attachments, nor spam.

I collect my email weekly-ish.

george. 07970-378572

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dicemail.htm thu23nov2000
[from George ]


=========================================================
subject: dicenews: TribalVoicesTapes+Stonehenge+[Nov2000]
date:    November 2000
from:    dicegeorge@...  dicenews@egroups.com
phone:   george  07970-378572  (orange)
to:      all friends

======================================================
====== Contents ============ www.dicenews.com email =====
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Contents: [Tribal Voices tapes 1,2,3,4 and 5?]
           [datelist + 21December2001 Stonehenge Solstice
             + 24,25 March 2001 Glastonbury gig + meeting]
           [george's writes]
           [warpspam  - no dicespam ]
           [weblinks]
           [www.dicenews.com subscribe/unsubscribe]

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=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====
=========================================================

Tapes 1,2, 3 and 4 are on sale again.

Tapes 1 and 2 were recorded around campfires at
Solsbury Hill, Fairmile, Twyford Down and
at Kentish Town Rainbow Centre around 1995.

Tapes 3 and 4 were recorded at 'The Gathering'
in Devon in autumn 1997.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com email =====

'Tribal Voices' is a collective of acoustic musicians,
who want to retain creative autonomy over their work,
much of which aims to promote environmental and social issues.
We want to reach a wide audience and so we are pursuing
bookings for performances at mainstream events
as well as organising our own seasonal gatherings.
We are recording audio-tapes, producing a film of our work
and building an archive of recorded music.

We also intend to run workshops and educational projects.
We are working towards financial self-sufficiency,
and we intend to support and encourage others involved
in similar projects.
We are bound by a belief in nature and community,
with a range of feelings and experiences in common
through our relationship with the earth.
Many of us have been inspired by the protest movement
and the trend towards revitalising
the traditional seasonal gatherings.
It is a multicultural, living tradition,
not bound by mainstream views.
We are a family on the frontiers of something new,
a community of mutual understanding
taking collective responsibility for the future.
We are a bunch of dreamers
who believe dreams can become manifest
in a world where we are one with all things.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com/tv =====

  Tapes One and Two cost 5.50 english pounds each ,
and Tapes Three and Four cost £7.50 each
(including post and packing in UK),
cheques payable to "Tribal Voices", from
===    Tribal Voices,
===    73 Brailsford Rd,
===    Brixton,
===    London UK
===    SW2 2TB
please send IMO for overseas orders

== or From Harvest Forestry, New England St, BRIGHTON.
Profits from the sale of these tapes support our projects,
and our visions of a greener future.

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com/tv =====


The Tribal Voices Co-operative has grown
from the magic of the campfire,
from the sense of comradeship we have found,
coming together as one people to fight
against the destruction of our common heritage:
Our sacred sites, hallowed hills and ancient forests
are under constant threat from modern lifestyles,
consumerism, "growth", building, fast cars,
new roads, pollution and destruction.

Gathering the tribes at the head of the Dragon'
on Twyford Down, we made our stand.

Empowered by nature's forces and
a tangible connection with our ancestors -
We focussed on our cause with painted faces,
music and pixie pranks -
We defied the diggers
and the media looked on with interest.
We held the moral ground,
Non-Violent Direct Action was news
at Twyford - M11/London, Solsbury Hill,
Newbury, Fairmile and many other protest camps.
Four years later,
the roads programme has been cut back,
the Government announcing that there will be
no more new roads
and an ever growing army of ordinary folk
who are prepared to say "No"
to the injustices of our society.
We have time to reflect on
the messages we are giving to the public,
to become even more environmentally aware,
to find harmony with nature,
living low impact lifestyles.
We find our true identities. Clive & Chrissy

=== Tribal Voices ========== www.dicenews.com  =====

There are over a hundred musicians on the tapes.
See our website for details at
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices
or phone george 07970-378572

Come to our gig in Glastonbury on 24th March 2001.

Raven might record Tribal Voices 5 this winter around Bristol

Gaia might record Tribal Voices 6 in Spring 2001



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=== NOVEMBER 2000 ========== www.dicenews.com email =====

2000.11.24 Fri Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: VOLT Night
                Glastonbury's popular monthly acoustic gathering.
2000.11.25 Sat Glastonbury AssRooms: Mahmoud ~ Whirling Dervish

Tuesday 28 Nov 2000
International No Shop Day ; A day of cheerful actions about
consumption,
environment, human rights, fair sharing and sustainable development.
Participate in this world-wide protest-day against western
over-consumption!
FREE!  Tel: 0161 225 4507; URL: http://www.ddh.nl/bnd @: tba (n/a ) ;
n/a ;
Tel:    more/latest info at http://www.mi5.uk.com/venues/vukAt4.html


=== DECEMBER 2000 ========= www.dicenews.com email =====


2000.12.01 Fri 1st 7pm December RAINBOW RAMA
                   Rainbow Circle Land Fund Benefit (0208 981 8409)
                @Kingsley Rd, Powis Rd, Bromley-by-Bow tube, London.
                    Cats Cradle, Yoghurt Thrash, Hector Gazelle,
                   + Jonathan Cainer Aquarian Age Astrobabble!

    * War Resisters International will be publishing a list of
imprisoned
      peace activists on Prisoners for Peace Day, 1st Dec. 020-7278
4040 or
      www.gn.apc.org/warresisters

2000.12.01 Fri Glastonbury AssRooms: dance night WARM UP FOR HOGMANAY
2000.12.02 Sat Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: WASSAIL EVENING
02/12/2000: London Field Festival
2000.12.06 Wed 8pm Stonehenge Campaign meeting
                    at 99 Torriano Av, Kentish Town, London
2000.12.07 Thu Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: ROB NEWMAN
2000.12.08 Fri Glastonbury Assembly Rooms: IMAGINE PEACE
                  ~A celebration of the life & works of John Lennon
2000.12.09 Sat Glastonbury Assembly Rooms:
                  MUSIC 4 U SOUND SPIRIT PROMOTIONS launch party

Sunday 10 Dec 2000  Human Rights Day;
          Tel: 0171 814 6200; URL: http://www.amnesty.org.uk

2000.12.16 Sat noon - Druids @ Avebury
2000.12.17 Sun noon - Druids @ Primrose Hill, London
2000.12.20 Wed Glastonbury AssRooms: WINTER BURNING songs & stories

2000.12.21 Winter Solstice Sunrise Gathering @Stonehenge: 7.am

2000.12.30 Sat Glastonbury AssRooms: ASSEMBLY ROOMS BENEFIT PARTY

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2001.03.20 Tuesday Spring Equinox -
            sunrise 6.a.m ish local time east of Stonehenge

2001.03.24 Sat 8pm Glastonbury Assembly Rooms  £5/4??
            Benefit Gig for Tribal Voices + Stonehenge Campaign
            http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/glastgig.htm
    please include this news in your mags, emails and webpages,
    a good picture to use is at:
    http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/tvimages/fireside.jpg
    or phone george 07970-378572


2001.03.25 Sun 2-5pm Stonehenge Meeting in Glastonbury AssRooms
            http://ww.geocities.com/soho/9000/glastone.htm

For updates see Stonehenge/FIN datelist at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stoneday.htm

05/05/2001: Free The Weed! ;
  more/latest info at http://www.mi5.uk.com/venues/vuTSE309.html


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== Letter From Karelia Thu14Sept2000 ==
           June 2000 some of us walked
as a family from London to Stonehenge
       (but nobody walked every step).
Then half a night and dawn inside -
it was wet and windy, good, cos
loads more people could have been a
problem clearing the Stones in time
for English Heriticage to open their
turnstiles at 9 a.m. as a-greed ...
   Me, I tin-whistled and danced to the
real live drumming - I policed myself.
   Starman Bowie at Pilton was great,
but I missed the Wailers, and Big Andy
guitaring after PAIN on Tuesday...
   Big Green Gathering Stonehenge
Exhibition bus, and Saturday night
fluting with Stone drummers four hours,
Sunday 12volt DG Lightshow @ RinkyDink
with Nik, ShakShak, + Kangaroo Moon.
   Angel broke her leg but Sunch was OK.
     Little Elkie got killed by a car:
     yet another stupidly sad accident.
Craig + Martine had another baby girl.
   2 weeks at Cauldren Camp, babysat +
fluted and lit and sorted 99% of our
Rainbow Circle Politics re: a certain
person's infamous rumours and animus..
   Then more dancing at Exodus Fest.
Next year... hang on, there's another
Solstice in December - I want more
Braziers and drums and mutual respect
and love and understanding (not that
I understand half of what's going on
                  - it's a mad world!)
   your cousin,  www.dicegeorge.com
====  orange phone 07970 378572 ====



========= Spirit Children ===============================

Ken Wiwa, son of the murdered activist Ken-Saro Wiwa,
writing of the unexpected death of his brother says:

In many, many ways Tedum's death was the turning point
in my life. Trying to make sense of it, I began to look
into the ways Africans deal with death, and I came to
understand that my little brother was a spirit child.
A spirit child is born and reborn many times, moving
between the spirit world and the real world. When
a spirit child is recalled, he has to go, and thus
spirit children often die in childbirth or at a young
age. Ben Okri's wonderful evocation of childhood, The
Famished Road, tells the story of Azaro Lazarus - a
spirit child who refuses to return to the spirit world
when his time is up.

=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====

Someone please record my song
"The Only Time I Lied
(Was When I Said I Didn't Love You Any More)"
to Number One for Valentines Day
and send me the songwriting dosh
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/onlytime.htm

=== george's writes ======== www.dicenews.com email =====

for loads more of my writings see my homepage at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicegeor.htm
and http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/dicetime.htm


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I got spammed by Brian of the warp, accidentally.
He set up an email discussion list at smartgroups
and subscribed a thousand of us onto it.
It automatically sent all messages to everyone on the list.
A dozen of them had automatic replies on.
These 12 replies were forwarded to all thousand of us.
12 of whom automatically replied -
1000 x 12 x 12 x 12 ...

Unfortunately I was in a London cybercafe
when he subscribed me, and sent a hello message.
So my message was near the front of the warpspam,
(and got echoed and echoed automatically as above)
Some people thought it was my fault ..
and spammed me in revenge.
Gandhi said "An eye for an eye and the world will be blind".

To stop such warpspam I registered with
http://www.smartgroups.com
and change  email delivery to DIGEST or  WEBONLY.

         =======To delete lots of emails ======
To delete lots of emails without POP downloading them
got to http://www.dicenews.com,
choose Twigger, logon, select lots of boxes and delete them.
( Tab Tab Space Tab Tab Space Tab Tab Space
   is a keyboard shortcut I use at hotmail too ).

                  ==== NO dicespam ======
This dicenews egroup should not spam like warpspam
because I have set permissions such that I am the
only person able to post to the group.

If you receive two of these dice emails it's probably
because you have two email addresses and they're both on
the dicenews egroup - tell me about it
dicegeorge@..., or follow the instructions
in your introductory email from egroups, logon to
www.egroups.com and change your preferences,
or unsubscribe one of your accounts.

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postage (US
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can
get the fist three for £15 inc. postage. And finally.... The Schquall
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contains articles, photos, cartoons, a "yellow pages" list of
contacts,
comedy etc. All the above books are available from the Brighton Peace
Centre, saving postage yer tight gits.





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http://www.festivaleye.com   (new 2001 website)
http://www.guilfin.org  (weekly events emails)
http://www.schnews.org.uk   (weekly eco news emails)
http://www.squall.co.uk    (alternative politics)
http://www.urban75.com - UK underground eco-rave-protest-drugs-e-zine
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9000/stonecam.htm
     Stonehenge Campaign
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/ (Photos of Scottish stones)
http://www.geocities.com/tribalvoices/  (eco-musicans)
http://www.marsbard.com/kebele  (Bristol community cafe)
http://www.bristle.co.uk  (Bristol's radikal information)
http://www.geocities.com/ocknroll    (Luke's festi Photos)
http://www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/   (best camp last summer)
http://www.symbolstone.org/albion/vanity.htm   (artist)
http://www.mandala.mcmail.com/  (Spacegoats CDs)
http://www.narmada.org/   (damn dams)
http://go.to/TA2000 Oppose the Terrorism Act 2000
http://www.itools.com/research-it/research-it.html
http://www.dicenews.com/live    (Rave Donor Cards)
http://www.toxicpop.freeserve.co.uk/j-day.htm
      (send a spliff to Anne Widecombe day)
http://www.levellers.org.uk/ Oxford Levellers, (land reform)
http://www.geocities.com/soho/9000/repetitive-squeaks.htm
http://www.dicenews.com     (George's hotlinks)


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hello,
ive just updated my homepage,
seeing how this thingy works,
i wont send these emails more than once a week
ok
george.

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