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Hello folks,

I don't know whether these things really work or not,
but I think it's worth the effort.

Best wishes to all,
Beth Shipley

Subject: The destruction of the Buddha Statues in
Afghanistan

Hans-Georg Tuerstig schrieb: I believe the deed has
been
done.....the Buddhas are no more, but there are other
sites
targeted such as Hadda, a seat of buddhism and a very
revered
place where all artifacts are to be destroyed.

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UNESCO International Petition to Safeguard
Afghanistan's Cultural
Heritage

We, the undersigned, plead for an immediate end to the
Taliban
edict to demolish Afghanistan's cultural heritage. We
further urge
the Taliban spiritual leader Mullah Mohammed Omar to
enter into
dialogue with the international community -- including
the Arab and
Islamic governments that overwhelmingly have condemned
these
actions -- in order to explore proposals to safeguard
this
irreplaceable cultural heritage from further senseless
destruction.

The edict of the 26th of February 2001 to destroy
pre-Islamic and
Buddhist objects-- including the world's largest
standing Buddha
statues at Bamiyan-- runs counter to all the basic
principles of
respect, tolerance and the wisdom upon which Islam is
based, and
is a breach of the Taliban pledge made in 1999. We
plead with
Taliban authorities to stop this irreversible assault
on two millennia
of Afghanistan's artistic and cultural achievements,
treasured not
only as the spiritual birthright of Buddhists
everywhere but also as
a universal cultural heritage for people of all faiths
and
nationalities.



1. Gustavo F Araoz, US/ICOMOS, Washington, DC, USA
2. Molly Lambert, Architectural Conservation,
Berkeley, CA
3. M. G. Lord, Preservation, Los Angeles, Ca
4. Irene Borger, Los Angeles, Ca
5. Allegra Fuller Snyder, Pacific Palisades, Ca
6. Lynette Kessler, Topanga Canyon, CA
7. John Quigley, Santa Monica, CA
8. Laura Sewall, Prescott, AZ
9. Peggy Bill, Seattle WA
10. M. Kai Sanburn, Lopez, WA
11. Laura D Miller, Seattle, WA
12. Gregory M. Bishop, Seattle, WA
13. Laureen Langland, San Francisco, CA.
14. Brenda Simmons, Fremont, CA
15. Niseema C. Dillard, Oakland, CA
16. Hans G. Turstig, NM
17. Hank Troemel, Germany
18. David Reigle, Cotopaxi, CO
19. Ken Small, San Diego, CA
20. Witold Myslinski, San Diego, Ca
21. Lara Dzioubouk, Los Angeles, CA
22. Eugene Trakhtenberg, Los Angeles, CA
23. Yuriy Aistov, Los Angeles, CA
24. Troy Paff, Long Beach, CA
25.  Kristine Bauer, San Francisco, CA
26. Barry Kapke, Sonoma, CA
27. Ann Mari Spector, Sonoma, CA
28. Mary Reinard, Portland, OR
29. Carole Melkonian, Portland, OR
30. Michael Twombly, Arcata, CA


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#43

From: "Katie DAVIDMAN" <kt9@...>
Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:03 pm
Subject: dharmanetwork in Toronto??

kt9@...

Hi,

My name is Katie, I have just returned from 6 months in India and have decided
to check out Toronto as a place to live (I'm originally from Montreal).

Am seeking advice on places to live, work, yoga, etc...

Is anyone else on the network in TO??

Katie




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#42

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2001 5:02 pm
Subject: Fw: A plea which won't cost money.

veredudu@...

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From: RUTY - RICHRACH <richrach@...>
To: Yonathan Dominitz <yonathand@...>; veredudu
<veredudu@...>; tami elyada <studio@...>; Stephen Fulder
<fulder@...>; paul epstein <Epsteinmb@...>; nimrod
<nimush@...>; Latet Organization <latet@...>; felice
<baross@...>; etti zvi <ettizvi@...>; christopher
<ctitmuss@...>; carmel <cshalev@...>; KOBI RASNER
<rasner@...>
Date: ��� ����� 13 ��� 2001 11:30
Subject: Fw: A plea which won't cost money.


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>Date: ??? ??? 12 ??? 2001 18:48
>Subject: A plea which won't cost money.
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>>> PLEASE HELP US.
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#41

From: "Kami Kanetsuka" <kamikan@...>
Date: Wed Mar 14, 2001 1:47 am
Subject: (No subject)

kamikan@...

Hi Friends: I don't know if this is the right place to to put this out. In
fact I'm not sure who connected me with the dharmanetwork. Probably from the
sangha list in Sarnath. So I am going to write this with the hope that
someone may reply.  I am now back in B.C. and still hoping that I may find
someone who would like to be in my little cottage on Bowen Island from about
mid/June to mid/August so I could do the sangha walk in France. When I am
over my jetlag I will work out how I can really connect and put my info in
the right place. Until then metta to all.
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#40

From: "Kami Kanetsuka" <kamikan@...>
Date: Tue Mar 13, 2001 5:11 am
Subject: (No subject)

kamikan@...

dear Friends: Have just arrived back in Vancouver from India and am very
jetlagged. In fact I really don't know who I am connecting with. But for
those who may know me I will let you know that the more usual e-mail address
I use is kanet@... I hope someone will connect with me and that I will
find out how I can give information on the cottage that I live in that I am
hoping to sublet for a couple of months from mid/June to about mid August or
later. I am looking for someone who is really into gardening. All for now as
I have no concentration any more so will just send this out and hopefully
work out how to make good use of the dharma network. Bye for now Kami
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#32

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Wed Jan 24, 2001 2:14 pm
Subject: something for the soul

veredudu@...

Where To Find Peace?

Question:"How much does
                  where you live,
                  your physical surroundings,
                  affect your spirituality?"

The following short story is by an unknown author.

There once was a King who offered a prize to the artist who would
paint the best picture of peace. Many artists tried. The King
looked at all the pictures, but there were only two he really liked
and he had to choose between them.

One picture was of a calm lake. The lake was a perfect mirror for
peaceful towering mountains all around it. Overhead was a blue
sky with fluffy white clouds. All who saw this picture thought that
it was a perfect picture of peace.

The other picture had mountains too. But these were rugged and
bare. Above was an angry sky from which rain fell, and in which
lightning played. Down the side of the mountain tumbled a foaming
waterfall. This did not look peaceful at all.

But when the King looked, he saw behind the waterfall a tiny bush
growing in a crack in the rock. In the bush a mother bird had built
her nest. There, in the midst of the rush of angry water, sat the
mother bird on her nest ... perfect peace.

The King chose the second picture.

The King explained, "peace does not mean to be in a place where
there is no noise, trouble, or hard work. Peace means to be in the
midst of all those things and still be calm in your heart. That is the
real meaning of peace."

(END OF STORY)

The above bit of writing continues to inspire and serve me well.

It doesn't say to me however, that we should actively place ourselves
in "war zones" to live out or stretch our spirituality. I take it that
if we happen to find ourselves in these less than peaceful "zones", we
would do well to remember the above message.

The state of "physical surroundings" affect some of us more than others.
If this bothers a person to the extent that he behaves unbecomingly of
his inner spiritual understanding, then by all means, he should get away
from such a "toxic" place.

You all moreorless know that popular Metaphysical saying: "Heaven
and Hell are not geographical positions; they are states of mind/being".
In that context, we can't run away from the human condition and the
situations that this "condition" gives rise to. We have to find a way
to cope with these challenges as they present themselves. We have to
recognize that the same challenges moreorless, will present themselves
regardless of where we live. Again, the old saying: "We can run but
we can't hide".

The human condition is generally, one of challenges and a matter of
survival. Sooner or later, it becomes a personal question of *which*
set of problems we choose to live with.

It's popular to say that life is a series of choices, isn't it? Yet,
when we think of it ... we didn't choose our parents, families, neighbors,
peers, teachers and other influences in our lives. As children, we
didn't exercise these "choices" simply because we were unable to do so.

I like to think that as adults, we are more empowered to make these
choices.

#31

From: "Dan & Kirsten Love" <enshin@...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 12:54 am
Subject: Dan & Kirsten and Community life.

enshin@...

"Do you know what the real question for a thinker is? The real question is:
How much truth can I stand?"
                   - Nietzsche in 'When Nietzsche Wept'.

Dear Sangha,
This is a short message just to let those of you who know us keep in touch,
and also to ask for some feedback from anyone who may wish to respond.
After leaving India in April last year, Kirsten and I spent a month in Gaia
House. We then continued to Tapovan forest retreat center in the French
Pyrenees, where we spent about 5 months, on and off. It was a very
challenging time for us, and many difficult issues popped up, in our search
for a more permanent resting place, after many years on the road.
In the end it turned out that Tapovan wasn't the place for us at this time,
and so we moved temporarily to live on a piece of land not far away from
Tapovan, in an eight meter long 'bauwagen' (something like a circus wagon).
We have a wonderful view of the snowcaped peeks and 80 acres of mixed forest
and open fields to roam in. The owners of the land run a kind of
'hermitage'/hostel and lodge visitors for a fee, in the house as well as in
tents.
Our address is:
c/o Harder, Metairie d'En Coste, 11300 Bourigeole, France. Tel/Fax
00-33-46831-6149.
We are currently absolutely open to suggestions. We are in need of a
supportive invironment where we can serve, and practice as well as earn a
living. so if anyone knows of anything worthwhile please let us know.

We are still in search of community life, which incourages real inquiry and
honesty, and lends support, for those of us who wish to live the dharma
outside the structure of a monastic tradition, or the India-West-India-West
cycle. The form may vary, from the very communal to a loose affiliation, but
it is the Sangha support for inquiry and exploration, which I think is the
main issue.
I invite anyone who may have any views and opinions on the matter of
community living, or who can share some practical information like where,
how, and who, to contact us, or to open a discussion on one of the Sangha's
Internet sites. Please, if you read this, share it with others, who may not
have Internet access (93% of the world...). Any response is welcome.

With love, Dan.
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#30

From: Tommy Fethke <satchitananda@...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 5:16 am
Subject: Re: Dan & Kirsten and community life.

satchitananda@...

dear dan and kirsten,
we are happy to hear somthing of you while right now we staying in jain
guest house in sarnath and enjoing the calm atmosphere here.we spend about 2
month in lucknow with jaja ashmore and friends having a wonderful time and it
was
about exactly this dharma community thing that we found there.still there
remains the issue with earning a livelihood but we hope something comes up.it
is a beautiful house with a few rooms and jaya likes to establish a permanent
open space for people to live and practice.it is sorryli not in europe but if
we find something we let you know,with our best wishes a lots of love
tom,dana and johanna

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#28

From: "Dan & Kirsten Love" <enshin@...>
Date: Fri Jan 19, 2001 12:51 am
Subject: Dan & Kirsten and community life.

enshin@...

"Do you know what the real question for a thinker is? The real question is:
How much truth can I stand?"
                   - Nietzsche in 'When Nietzsche Wept'.

Dear Sangha,
This is a short message just to let those of you who know us keep in touch,
and also to ask for some feedback from anyone who may wish to respond.
After leaving India in April last year, Kirsten and I spent a month in Gaia
House. We then continued to Tapovan forest retreat center in the French
Pyrenees, where we spent about 5 months, on and off. It was a very
challenging time for us, and many difficult issues popped up, in our search
for a more permanent resting place, after many years on the road.
In the end it turned out that Tapovan wasn't the place for us at this time,
and so we moved temporarily to live on a piece of land not far away from
Tapovan, in an eight meter long 'bauwagen' (something like a circus wagon).
We have a wonderful view of the snowcaped peeks and 80 acres of mixed forest
and open fields to roam in. The owners of the land run a kind of
'hermitage'/hostel and lodge visitors for a fee, in the house as well as in
tents.
Our address is:
c/o Harder, Metairie d'En Coste, 11300 Bourigeole, France. Tel/Fax
00-33-46831-6149.
We are currently absolutely open to suggestions. We are in need of a
supportive invironment where we can serve, and practice as well as earn a
living. so if anyone knows of anything worthwhile please let us know.

We are still in search of community life, which incourages real inquiry and
honesty, and lends support, for those of us who wish to live the dharma
outside the structure of a monastic tradition, or the India-West-India-West
cycle. The form may vary, from the very communal to a loose affiliation, but
it is the Sangha support for inquiry and exploration, which I think is the
main issue.
I invite anyone who may have any views and opinions on the matter of
community living, or who can share some practical information like where,
how, and who, to contact us, or to open a discussion on one of the Sangha's
Internet sites. Please, if you read this, share it with others, who may not
have Internet access (93% of the world...). Any response is welcome.

With love, Dan.
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#25

From: "martina scneider" <martinaschn@...>
Date: Thu Dec 28, 2000 7:51 pm
Subject: ..only a little place on earth

martinaschn@...

Dearest,
I wish to find a little, little little  place on earth in the most expensive
area
The Bay Area, San Francisco, Berkely

I will join a program for half a year from February on.
I know that not easy but I trust, also the organisation itself looks for a
place.Perhaps I could help in this way through this wonderful
e-groupsmailsystem.There was only one address in the Database.

So do you have any contact address for me or anything else...I would be very
happy!!!!!!
Also I would like to contact Lisa and Burny in Berkeley,and Peggy in San
Francisco.Who could help?

Wish a wonderful New Year with lots of love
martina
Please write to my personal mail
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#24

From: Sue Cox <s.cox@...>
Date: Wed Dec 20, 2000 5:45 pm
Subject: Pilgrimage Tapovan to Plum Village

s.cox@...

Peace Pilgrimage from Tapovan to Plum Village, 21st June - 10th July
2001

The idea for a pilgrimage came from a group led by Christopher Titmuss
and Martin Aylward which met in the summer at Tapovan, an insight
meditation centre in south western France.  The group met to explore the
practice of dharma in everyday life and ideas for strengthening and
supporting sangha, particularly in the west, where sangha qualities such
as open-heartedness, simplicity and interbeing can often seem to go
against dominant cultural trends.  The Pilgrimage will be a chance to
walk together with other dharma friends with all the support and
connections therein implied.  We are hoping that this will become a
fairly large-scale gathering and want to extend the invitation pretty
widely.  We also wish to invite monks and nuns from buddhist orders and,
if possible, other denominations and groups, to walk with us as well.

Below is a general summary of what is proposed so far: in order to make
it actually happen there are some crucial parts of the arrangements
still to come together and ideas and help with them is needed.  Please
contact us if you are interested in helping.

THE WALK:  to take 19 days over some 270 kms, setting out from Tapovan
(close to Limoux, Roussillon) on 22 June and reaching Plum Village
(about 85kms east of Bordeaux) on 10 July 2001, which Plum Village have
told us is the day before the start of their next annual Summer Retreat.
There is also an Outdoor Camping Meditation Retreat at Tapovan with
Yanai Postelnik and Martin Aylward taking place between 9-17 June and
the gathering for the Pilgrimage would follow this at Tapovan on 21
June.  For those for whom it is possible, this will create the
opportunity for a sustained period of retreats and pilgrimage.

THE ROUTE will run mostly through rural areas, but also touching towns
and villages so that the Pilgrimage can connect with as many people as
possible on the way.  At present the route is projected to run north
west from Tapovan via the Fanjeaux and Canal du Midi areas to Toulouse,
then along the River Garonne via Castel Sarrasin and Moissac to
Villeneuve sur Lot.  The final 60 or so kms continues north through
smaller towns and villages to Plum Village.  This is not a final and
fixed route at the moment and we would be pleased to hear from anyone
who has buddhist friends, or knows of any other groups in areas on the
way between Tapovan and Plum Village who would be happy for us to make
contact, or who might offer us camping or other accommodation.

The Walk will cover about 10-15 kms a day with some times of rest or
shorter walking.  Walkers will be welcome to take part in all or some of
the Pilgrimage: a day, a week, as much or as little as they wish.
Nearer the time there will be an itinerary and ways of contacting the
Walk for those wanting to join along the way.

DAILY SCHEDULE: there will be times each day for group meditation and
periods of silence, though the Pilgrimage will not be run as a silent
retreat.  On most days there will be an evening activity such as a
dharma talk, a sharing or some dharma discussion and time around the
campfire.  Several Insight Meditation teachers have already shown an
interest in joining us to give talks.  Activities would be open to all
and we would hopefully draw more people to join us as we go.

ACCOMMODATION AND FOOD: most nights will be spent camping and walkers
will need to bring their own tents and sleeping bags.  It is hoped that
some nights might be spent in sports or village halls or some other
similar space, depending on our numbers.  If anyone has any contacts or
ideas for facilities like these, please let us know.  Food will be
vegetarian.  We will need a van to pick up supplies and which will go on
ahead each day to the next destination where the evening meal and picnic
packs for the following day will be prepared.  Cooking equipment is
already available, but we will need:

* EITHER: A VAN DONATED OR HIRED
* OR: SPONSORSHIP MONEY TO BUY OR HIRE A VAN
* SOMEONE TO UNDERTAKE TO DRIVE IT
* SPONSORSHIP MONEY FOR SET-UP COSTS: PETROL, PURCHASE OF INITIAL
SUPPLIES
*
CR�CHE:  we want to support families with children to be able to take
part fully in the Pilgrimage and for children to have resources for
play.  We will therefore also need:

* A SECOND VAN AS A "CR�CHEMOBILE"

COST: there will be no fixed daily cost for the period of the Walk.
Each day we will pass round a "magic hat" and invite contributions for
our needs from walkers and people coming to look and listen.
Participants would have to cover the costs of their travel to and from
the Pilgrimage at whatever point they join or leave it.  For the cost of
retreats please contact Tapovan and Plum Village.

TAPOVAN:  For information about the Forest Retreat contact Martin and
Gail at Tapovan, Marses, 11300 Festes St Andr�, France.  Tel:
+33(0)4.68.31.87.73.  email: tapovan@....

PLUM VILLAGE:  Though they have given their support to the Pilgrimage,
they are not involved at all in its organisation, so please do NOT
contact them for details about it.  For information about retreats at
Plum Village please see their website on www.plumvillage.org.

PILGRIMAGE CONTACT:  To be kept in touch further or to suggest ideas or
help please contact Sue Cox: s.cox@...  Tel:  + 44 (0)20
8509 2766 or write to 41 Melbourne Road, London E17 6LR, UK

PLEASE PASS ON THIS INFORMATION TO OTHERS.

Metta 	 May all beings walk together in peace and joy

#23

From: Sue Cox <s.cox@...>
Date: Wed Dec 20, 2000 5:43 pm
Subject: Pilgrimage from Tapovan to Plum Village

s.cox@...

#22

From: Martin Aylward <tapovan@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2000 9:25 pm
Subject: Bodh Gaya and Sarnath 2001

tapovan@...

Dear Friends,
To answer queries and questions, here are the definitive dates etc for the
Bodh Gaya retreats and the Sarnath Programme for 2001:

Jan 7-15, led by Norman Feldman, Yanai Postelnik, Leela Janssen, Mark
Coleman

Jan 15-23, led by Norman Feldman, Yanai Postelnik, Leela Janssen, Mark
Coleman

Jan 23 - Feb 4, led by Christopher Titmuss, Tineke Osterloh, Martin Aylward

Sarnath Programme from Feb 4 - 28

With the sad death of Thomas earlier this year, preparations for the
retreats will be much more difficult for then managers. If you are willing
and able to be in Bodh Gaya earlier than the start of the retreats to help
with all the work that needs to be done in the run up to  January 7th, your
help would be very much appreciated.
If you have any further questions, please contact Caroline, Anton, Peggy and
David who will be managing the retreats. Contact details follow. Email has
apparently 'sort of'' arrived in Bodh Gaya.......

Caroline Miller Forbes
POSTE RESTANTE, GPO Bodh Gaya, BIHAR 824231
or at Burmese Vihara, back of yellow building, ground floor, Room 8)
or Fax at Burmese Vihara (00 91 631 400 848).
email. carelion@...

#21

From: patricia nicholls <patnich7@...>
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2000 8:15 pm
Subject: retreats & holidays in CAN GAIA MALLORCA

patnich7@...

a quiet retreat or holiday facility has been created
and
will be functioning as from the first of december 2000

3 double bedrooms each with own bath, meditaton room
lounge,kitchen for self catering,spacious and with
wonderful views of the tramontana and set in an
elevated terraced site.

for reservations and more details you are welcome to
e. mail me patnich7@...
sincerely, patricia

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#20

From: Martin Aylward <tapovan@...>
Date: Mon Nov 20, 2000 6:45 pm
Subject: multiple messages

tapovan@...

Dear Friends
Hallo, glad to see more and more signing up. A couple of
things.........firstly thanks for your feedback, I've tried to simplify the
sign up instructions somewhat.
Secondly, if you want to reply to somebody who's written a message through
the group address, don't just hit reply as the message you send back will go
out to everybody in the group! Just send it to their ordinary email address.
Warm greetings from the peace and beauty of Autumn in the forest meanwhile,
here at Tapovan. See many of you quite soon in Mother India..........
Hari OM!
Martin

#19

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Sat Nov 18, 2000 1:16 pm
Subject: a message from neta

veredudu@...

dear friends,

i've been requested to write this e-mail by neta. it concerns the events that are happening in hares, an arab village in the shomron, near ariel.

neta wants to invite whoever would like to come and observe for himself the things that are happening. she would like to organize a meeting in hares and if possible also in the near by jewish settelment.

she describes events that are very alarming, talks about army and settelers shooting at the village without any provocation from the village people, without anyone throwing stones or trying to shoot anyone. she said that since they are there (a few peace orientated people), the villagers have not done any violent act, she can swear upon that. she described events that have occured in a 2 nights of 60 setteler cars that came after dark and started shooting in the village, sometimes with the army' trying to provoke contra action from the palestinians side, without success. she said, in one ocasion she took the microphone and pleede the army and settelers to stop firing, and that during her talk there have been 3 gunshots- one was aimed directly at her, they were shooting in the direction of the talker. she said that on thursday night the settelers and army shot again, she was present and she can testify that the palestinians had no weapon and were just protesting.

she described people, who cannot get out of the village to see a doctor, to pick their olives (which are rottening on the trees), who don't have enough food to eat or water to drink. some peace supporters went with the palestinians to pick the olives for 3 days and so they were allowed to do so, because their presence there, and there were settlers there who came and cursed them and threatened them.

she wants to start an international movement of civil observrce and violence prevention- people who would come and take a look for themselves of the events and try to stand in between the 2 sides, to make sure that there's no violence acted upon both sides.

she said that what happened there on friday was the last straw for the palestinians there, when they saw that the army attackes their guests, the peace promoting people that were there, so the last option was to react.

neta's phone number is: 050-757504

when i told her about the contra reactions via e-mail she was really happy to hear, especially those who weren't in her actions favour- she believes it's very important for everybody to know what is really happening and not just what the media is partly showing us.

she basically invites everybody to come and witness for themselves what is happening in both sides.

may peace preveils around and inside us.

vered

#18

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Tue Nov 14, 2000 10:50 am
Subject: Fw: Trackers- FW:

veredudu@...

Premarin, the most prescribed drug in the U.S., is produced by Wyeth-Ayerst
Pharmaceuticals and prescribed by physicians for symptoms of menopause
-----
> > > > Women have lots of choices for our healthcare.  Seems like Premarin
is
> > one
> > > > we can do without, and hold horses in the esteem they are worthy
of --
> > > > >
> >there are lots of alternatives to premarin, check the web.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > This awful abuse of horses must stop! Please read this short
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> > > > then copy and post this into a new email sign your name at the
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> > and
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> > > >
> > > > What Women Should Know About Premarin
> > > >
> > > > Premarin is the most prescribed of all drugs in America today. Most
> > > > women don't know what Premarin is made from or how it is made. Once
> they
> > > > know,
> > > > most react like this women who commented on the World Wide Web,
"After
> > > > taking
> > > > Premarin for over 15 years, I just found out that this drug is made
> from
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> conditions,
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or
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> noblest
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> > produce.
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> > > > 11-month pregnancies in stalls so small they cannot turn. If they
try
> to
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> > > >
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> > > > cramped concrete and steel pens like rows of four legged slaves.
They
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> they
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> > horse's
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> standing
> > > > months on end in their tiny concrete stalls.
> > > >
> > > > The mares are kept constantly thirsty. They are denied water so
> > > > that their urine becomes thick. If they where allowed to drink as a
> > normal
> > > > horse needs, it would over-dilute their estrogen. A rubber, medieval
> > > looking
> > > > "pee-bag" and harness is strapped over the mares vaginas by elastic
> > > > hoses, secured around there flanks; and run over a pulley to the
> ceiling
> > > > above
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> > > painful
> > > > urinary tract infections due to the inhumane conditions.
> > > >
> > > > This treatment is for their entire lives, which only last for the
> > > yearsthey
> > > > are capable of foaling. Once they can no longer become pregnant, the
> > mares
> > > > will be shot for horsemeat-just like the majority of unwanted foals
to
> > > which
> > > > they give birth-their reward for producing billions of dollars made
> from
> > > > estrogen drugs prescribed to unsuspecting women.
> > > >
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> > > > mothers a month or two after birth. Some mares are kept as
> replacements,
> > > > some killed immediately. Some foals and discarded PMU mares are
loaded
> > > into
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that
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> then
> > > the
> > > > horses are shipped to the United States from Canada where they
arrive
> 60
> > > to
> > > > 80
> > > > hours later. They are shipped to foal slaughter sales where row
after
> > row
> > > of
> > > > pens are crammed with three to four thousand babies. Despite
standing
> in
> > > the
> > > > heat for several hours, few have access to any water. Some babies
try
> to
> > > > suckle milk from each other. All, except a handfull, are bought by
> meat
> > > > dealers
> > > > to be fattened for slaughter.
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#17

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Tue Nov 14, 2000 8:12 am
Subject: Re: when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?

veredudu@...

thankyou martina,
i gave my friend the dates.
be happy.
david

----- Original Message -----
From: martina scneider <martinaschn@...>
To: <dharmanetwork@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [dharmanetwork] when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?


>
> Hello dear David,
> I am sitting in Berlin and got your message and happy to answere...it is
> great this Dharmanetwork..
>
> The dates are:
> January 7-15
> January 15-23
> January 23- Febuary 2
> Your friend could sine up for all three retreats and could decide in India
> to which one she\he would like to show up
> All the best
> Metta
> martina
> To sine up
> Please write an e- mail to gaiahouse@...
>
>
>
> >From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
> >Reply-To: dharmanetwork@egroups.com
> >To: "Dharma Network" <dharmanetwork@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [dharmanetwork] when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?
> >Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:24:19 +0200
> >
> >hello dear network,
> >i'm david from the israeli sangha,
> >a sister is going to india and wants to sit one or more of the retreats
in
> >bodhgaya on january.
> >does  anyone know the exact dates and how to register ?
> >thankyou.
> >metta
> >david
> >
> >
> >
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >dharmanetwork-unsubscribe@egroups.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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#16

From: "martina scneider" <martinaschn@...>
Date: Mon Nov 13, 2000 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: feedback?

martinaschn@...

Dear Martin,

Sorry for replying late.A feedback.
I found it quiet difficult to sign up for the egroups and I do not think
that it has something to do with English as my second language, sure it does
not make it easier.
I was confused what to do and especially the fact that I could not see the
line of instruction" Step by step becoming a member" anymore after I started
doing the first step.Is this clear, I wonder? What I mean,the first step was
for example  "1. visit www.egroups.com.....". O.k I did that but then I
found it takes a lot of time  and it was confusing to go back  to the steps
of instruction to see what step 2.has to offer.Would be easier to see the
steps of instruction all the time.

In the end it took a long time to sign up, it was costly (what I guess for a
lot of poor little Dharma friends without a computer will be problematic).I
gave up that day trying to find out how the Databases work and did it later,
another time.
If there is a way to describe it in a simpler way ,please , probably others
and myself  would appreciate it.Sorry, but I can not give you any fantastic
ideas about the "How"( only the point I mentioned before about the steps of
instructions)

Hope you are happy and dancing the boogie of life
Love
Martina



>From: Martin Aylward <tapovan@...>
>Reply-To: dharmanetwork@egroups.com
>To: Sangha Directory <dharmanetwork@egroups.com>
>Subject: [dharmanetwork] feedback?
>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 22:36:08 +0100
>
>Dear friends
>I just checked the egroups page today and was glad to see people beginning
>to sign up - 16 members so far. We don't really expect it to take off until
>next year, after exposure in Bodh Gaya and Sarnath and in the Gaia House
>Newsletter. For now, there's a couple of things I wanted to ask you:
>How easy was it to sign up? Was it straightforward or confusing? Do the
>instructions need to be rethought out so as to make it easier for people?
>Secondly, perhaps accessing the Databases is not very clear? These are the
>main reason for the egroups account. So far, the "Contacts/Places to stay"
>Database has 3 entries, the "Right Livelihood" Database has one!
>Do none of you have places to live? (I do realise that this is entirely
>possible given our network of Dharma friends ) or were the Databases not
>made clear or easy enough to access and input info?
>I'd really appreciate hearing from any of you who may have comments or
>suggestions.
>Warmest greetings to you all meanwhile
>With warmth of heart, in the Dharma
>Martin

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#15

From: "martina scneider" <martinaschn@...>
Date: Thu Nov 2, 2000 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?

martinaschn@...

Hello dear David,
I am sitting in Berlin and got your message and happy to answere...it is
great this Dharmanetwork..

The dates are:
January 7-15
January 15-23
January 23- Febuary 2
Your friend could sine up for all three retreats and could decide in India
to which one she\he would like to show up
All the best
Metta
martina
To sine up
Please write an e- mail to gaiahouse@...



>From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
>Reply-To: dharmanetwork@egroups.com
>To: "Dharma Network" <dharmanetwork@egroups.com>
>Subject: [dharmanetwork] when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?
>Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:24:19 +0200
>
>hello dear network,
>i'm david from the israeli sangha,
>a sister is going to india and wants to sit one or more of the retreats in
>bodhgaya on january.
>does  anyone know the exact dates and how to register ?
>thankyou.
>metta
>david
>
>
>
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>dharmanetwork-unsubscribe@egroups.com
>
>
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#14

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Thu Nov 2, 2000 10:24 am
Subject: when are the retreats in bodhgaya ?

veredudu@...

hello dear network,
i'm david from the israeli sangha,
a sister is going to india and wants to sit one or more of the retreats in
bodhgaya on january.
does  anyone know the exact dates and how to register ?
thankyou.
metta
david

#13

From: Tommy Fethke <satchitananda@...>
Date: Thu Nov 2, 2000 8:31 am
Subject: Re: feedback?

satchitananda@...

hi martin
it was not to easy but i made it its in english thats why its little
difficult,i cant offer somthing for now when we are back from india things will
be different so far best wishes to all of you especially to the children tom

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#12

From: Martin Aylward <tapovan@...>
Date: Wed Nov 1, 2000 9:36 pm
Subject: feedback?

tapovan@...

Dear friends
I just checked the egroups page today and was glad to see people beginning
to sign up - 16 members so far. We don't really expect it to take off until
next year, after exposure in Bodh Gaya and Sarnath and in the Gaia House
Newsletter. For now, there's a couple of things I wanted to ask you:
How easy was it to sign up? Was it straightforward or confusing? Do the
instructions need to be rethought out so as to make it easier for people?
Secondly, perhaps accessing the Databases is not very clear? These are the
main reason for the egroups account. So far, the "Contacts/Places to stay"
Database has 3 entries, the "Right Livelihood" Database has one!
Do none of you have places to live? (I do realise that this is entirely
possible given our network of Dharma friends ) or were the Databases not
made clear or easy enough to access and input info?
I'd really appreciate hearing from any of you who may have comments or
suggestions.
Warmest greetings to you all meanwhile
With warmth of heart, in the Dharma
Martin

#11

From: satchitananda@...
Date: Wed Nov 1, 2000 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: greetings!

satchitananda@...

hi gerry ,tom ,dana and johanna also coming to india 21.11.first 6
weeks in lucknow,jaya is doing somthing,see you--- In
dharmanetwork@egroups.com, "Gerry Lim" <anicca@r...> wrote:
> Namaste everyone! I've just signed in, happy to see some familiar
> names-- small world! Heading back to mother india oct 23, first 2
> months in the south. Anyone else coming?
>
> Wishing all peace, joy and clarity
>
Gerry

#10

From: "veredudu" <veredudu@...>
Date: Sun Oct 29, 2000 8:56 am
Subject: need people to do service

veredudu@...

hello friends, my name is vered and this is on behalf of the israeli insight
meditation society.
we're running a retreat on 6-11/11/00 and are in a desperate need of people
todo service in the kitchen.
if there's someone you know who's in israel and will be interested to do so,
please help us to get in touch.
thank you.
metta. vered

From: "david martin" <dhatu76@...>
Date: Sat Oct 28, 2000 9:59 am
Subject: i think i've hacked into dharmanetwork

dhatu76@...

my dear other fifteen co-pilots aboard the good ship dharmanetwork
egroups thing

after much being hopeless at figuring this thing out i have got
myself on egroups dharmanetwork thing. i now realize that the only
things i've ever learnt to do with the internet are play about in
hotmail and... and... no that really is it.

it all looks very good and nice to me and although most bits are
somewhat blank and empty at present it looks like all these features
could keep me distracted from the breath for hours on end. i look
forward to it.

i'd like to make a request. it would be really nice if in the
'members' list people's actual names appeared alongside their often
cryptic email addresses. i recognize some of you from your whacky
combinations of numbers and letters @ this that and the other but
some i don't...

from the 'main page' you can click on 'my profile' and there click
'edit profile' and subsequently fill in first name and last name
under 'public info'. it would be lovely to know who you are! just a
suggestion...

so briefly i am david of england and sorry can't offer a place for
wandering sanghoids to rest even for a night because i myself am
presently squeezed into a cupboard in my parents kitchen for
accomodation with only my teddybear jeeves and a copy of i am that
for company. but i do hope to see some or quite possibly all of you
in bodhgaya this january where i am going to be co-managing the thai
temple retreats with peggy caroline and anton.

i welcome messages from any of you and wish you all well. so let's
help dharmanetwork fly.

love
david

From: Gerry Lim <anicca@...>
Date: Sat Oct 21, 2000 4:26 am
Subject: Re: looking for help

anicca@...

Hi Martin,

hope you're all well and dancing in the infinite. Sorry but I don't
think I'm your man for dharmanet contact person, given my perpetual
homelessness. In fact I'm about to return to mother india in 3 days
and you know what email is like in bodhgaya and sarnath!

See you back at wat thai. hari om
Gerry
--- Martin Aylward <tapovan@...> wrote:
> Dear DharmaNetwork friends
> Hello form Tapovan. The fact that you are receiving this means that
> you
> managed to sign up and register with egroups without too much
> trouble. One
> or two people  however, not being so computer literate, have found
> it
> difficult to follow the process. So I'm wondering if one of you who
> understands well how to do it, wouldn't mind being a contact person
> for
> those who get confused, and would be able to direct them in how to
> do it. It
> would probably be a case of having a fairly standard response
> letter stored
> in your computer, and maybe adding a couple of details specific to
> the
> persons questions. And probably better that the contact person be
> somebody
> of fixed abode with regular and easy access to a computer. Anybody
> willing?
> Your email address would be up on the site as the  contact person.
> Right now
> there would probably be very little to do in the way of answering
> queries,
> but if it becomes well known and many start to sign up, it may need
> some
> more time and attention. We'll see.........
> Hoping to hear from someone...............
> Wishing you well
> In the Dharma
>
> Martin Aylward
> Tapovan
> Marses, 11300 Festes St.Andr�France.
> Tel +33(0)4 68 31 87 73. Fax +33(0)4 68 31 88 85
> tapovan@...
>
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From: Martin Aylward <tapovan@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2000 11:52 am
Subject: looking for help

tapovan@...

Dear DharmaNetwork friends
Hello form Tapovan. The fact that you are receiving this means that you managed to sign up and register with egroups without too much trouble. One or two people however, not being so computer literate, have found it difficult to follow the process. So I'm wondering if one of you who understands well how to do it, wouldn't mind being a contact person for those who get confused, and would be able to direct them in how to do it. It would probably be a case of having a fairly standard response letter stored in your computer, and maybe adding a couple of details specific to the persons questions. And probably better that the contact person be somebody of fixed abode with regular and easy access to a computer. Anybody willing? Your email address would be up on the site as the contact person. Right now there would probably be very little to do in the way of answering queries, but if it becomes well known and many start to sign up, it may need some more time and attention. We'll see.........
Hoping to hear from someone...............
Wishing you well
In the Dharma

Martin Aylward
Tapovan
Marses, 11300 Festes St.Andr�France.
Tel +33(0)4 68 31 87 73. Fax +33(0)4 68 31 88 85
tapovan@...

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From: "Gerry Lim" <anicca@...>
Date: Thu Oct 5, 2000 7:35 am
Subject: greetings!

anicca@...

Namaste everyone! I've just signed in, happy to see some familiar
names-- small world! Heading back to mother india oct 23, first 2
months in the south. Anyone else coming?

Wishing all peace, joy and clarity
Gerry

From: satchitananda@...
Date: Sun Oct 1, 2000 12:41 pm
Subject: i am in

satchitananda@...

hello here is tom from germany,thanks for the info hope things going
well see ye  tom and dana