Hello, I just joined this group. I have been what may known as a Causal Determinist for most of my life. In a world controlled mostly by Christians (thanks...
... people ... all ... By joining up with others and taking steps to promote the naturalistic, cause and effect understanding of ourselves given by science....
Hi Gunney here: I do not really believe i have a free will though there are things I seem to decide but most likely my choices were made before I was even ...
Gunney, can I quote you on this? I'm putting together quotes about the personal impact of determinism/naturalism from people who seem to have gotten something...
Hi, Be my guest. I have a few more remarks on the subject. Not complaints about life just my take on its ironies & injustices. cheers... The Gunney ... ...
In a message dated 1/8/2008 8:43:40 AM Mountain Standard Time, ... Or as an idling motor waiting for something or somebody to put me into gear. Or as an actor...
... motor, actor.. Gunney: Speaking strictly for me dick to much action.. whats trhe point? I mean if life was all that exciting & people were interesting yeah...
Jake: gunney are you then saying we are robots? I don't feel like a robot quite the contrary as a matter of fact. I am making decisions all the time. Are you...
Jake Taggert
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Jan 13, 2008 5:25 pm
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Arriving at the conclusion that everything has a predetermined fate can be mind boggling at first. Consider this... 13.7 billion (+- whatever) years ago the...
Ken, Great post although I differ with you on a few things which I would like to explore a little more if you have the time. :) I have a different view of the...
Rich, I really don't see a difference between "predestined" and "predetermined". If something is predetermined it is also predestined. They are one and the...
If we think of determinism as the cause and effect unfolding of nature over time, then Einstein's theory of space-time as a "block universe" (which follows...
... Jake, you do not understand what determinism is at all. Of course you make decisions, it is just that every decision you make is determined by something...
Sorry Jake, but Ron is dead-on correct: there is no such thing as free-will. It can be thought of as pseudo-free-will. it is an illusion. The fact that our...
Ron, I didn't explain the difference. :) Predestined, as I use the term, means that an outside agent has already determined the outcome of events. The best...
Ken, Good point. I like Woody Allen's quip that if there is a god, the best we can say about him is that he is a serious under-achiever. :) Rich ... ...
Hello all, In regards to some of the discussions that have taken place regarding free will and the like, I was interested in what speculations people might...
In a message dated 2/13/2008 10:57:44 AM Mountain Standard Time, ... Memory, why we did it, our glands, and our emergency system are all controlled by the...
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... situations and ... conditioning, ... memory, the same ... feedback ... bodies be any ... put it ... resonate ... Richard: "From what I can determine, we...
In a message dated 3/13/2008 1:25:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time, ... What kind of naturalism do you mean, perception, philosophical, or practical? Richard ...
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